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Aug 25, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Local teen's death being called a homicide

Full story: WGTU

Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 11:02 p.m. I n A N ovember of 2007 16--year old A S am A A very was found dead in his A E lk A R apids home from a gun shot wound to his head.

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Mary

Saginaw, MI

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Sep 2, 2009
 

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So Sam's death was aat the beginning of November and they didn't question the mother for 5 months and accused her in the papers but she is not even a suspect? Then, 6 months after Sam's death they go back to the house after Anne has moved out to collect the evidence? That's messed up. And it is your elected PA and Chief of Police that is doing it. Did you know there are connections between Charley and Lance?
Mary

Saginaw, MI

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Sep 8, 2009
 
Yes, I think the connection between Lance and Charley is nutty too. Lance is connected to Baker and Baker is connected to Charley and the shin bone is connected to.....
Mary

Saginaw, MI

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Sep 8, 2009
 
They called it a suicide/homicide from the begining. The only reason Charley finally called it "official" is because that is the worst he can do to Anne at this point anymore. How many pages into the lab reports did Charley have to read before it said "official" homicide? Wouldn't that have been written on the cover page of the Lab reports? How come it took him so many weeks after the lab reports came back to come up with that conclusion? And why didn't he let the mother know first, before he went to the newspaper to Officially announce it. She found out Charley came to that conclusion, through the papers! Don't you think Charley should have told the mother, or her lawyers, first before going to the papers with that information? Sounds heartless to me.
Mary

Saginaw, MI

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Sep 8, 2009
 
It's official! Anne was/is being stalked, harassed, and terrorized by false accusations. So now her fears are made real as Charley officially states someone killed Sam. I'm suprised she doesn't go back to the Safe House.
curious

Traverse City, MI

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Sep 9, 2009
 
Mary, get your facts straight just once. Whatever you think about Charlie Koop, he did not just randomly decide to call Sam Avery's death a homicide. A forensic pathologist from Spectrum Health named Dr. David Start made that determination. I am sure you will try to find some connection between Lance Miller, Koop and Dr. Start. Let me guess, Start is stalking and harassing Anne, too? Because no one in the entire state has anything better to do than worry about Anne Avery? And, Koop didn't tell anyone until a newspaper reporter pulled the amended death certificate and asked about it. Then, Koop told other newspapers. If you don't know what you are talking about, quit spreading ridiculous rumors.
Batman

Brandon, FL

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Sep 9, 2009
 
curious wrote:
Mary, get your facts straight just once. Whatever you think about Charlie Koop, he did not just randomly decide to call Sam Avery's death a homicide. A forensic pathologist from Spectrum Health named Dr. David Start made that determination. I am sure you will try to find some connection between Lance Miller, Koop and Dr. Start. Let me guess, Start is stalking and harassing Anne, too? Because no one in the entire state has anything better to do than worry about Anne Avery? And, Koop didn't tell anyone until a newspaper reporter pulled the amended death certificate and asked about it. Then, Koop told other newspapers. If you don't know what you are talking about, quit spreading ridiculous rumors.
She won't quit because she doesn't have anything better to do.
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Traverse City, MI

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Sep 9, 2009
 
Oh, Mary...you are tooooooooooooooo much!
Mary

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Sep 9, 2009
 
curious wrote:
And, Koop didn't tell anyone until a newspaper reporter pulled the amended death certificate and asked about it. Then, Koop told other newspapers. If you don't know what you are talking about, quit spreading ridiculous rumors.
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Koop didn't tell anyone!? Not even the mother!? What the.....? WHY??? She found out through the papers.
Mary

Saginaw, MI

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Sep 9, 2009
 
Batman wrote:
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She won't quit because she doesn't have anything better to do.
You say that as though it is lame to ask questions about this case. What are you doing here?
Mary

Saginaw, MI

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Sep 9, 2009
 
curious wrote:
A forensic pathologist from Spectrum Health named Dr. David Start made that determination. I am sure you will try to find some connection between Lance Miller, Koop and Dr. Start.
Do you mean this Spectrum Health?

http://www.familiesforthetruthinhealthcare.co...
Mary

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Sep 9, 2009
 
Hopefully this link is more acurate.(just click on it)

http://www.healthgrades.com/group-directory/m...
Mary

Saginaw, MI

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Sep 9, 2009
 
Dr. David Start is mentioned in that first link. That all happened the years before Sam's death.
friendof a friendof Sams

Traverse City, MI

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Nov 3, 2009
 
Mary wrote:
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Koop didn't tell anyone!? Not even the mother!? What the.....? WHY??? She found out through the papers.
Who cares about Anne!? Who cares how/when she found out!!! Sam didn't get the chance to talk/listen... why should she! I can't believe you are even argueing about how she found out. What? Is she/ or you mad she couldn't "run" again? Guilt is all over this case! completely! and it is about time the papers, or whoever finally made it "legal" to say she is charged with the murder of her own son, instead of everyone knowing and just waiting to hear it be known by the courts. Finally... let Sam rest in Peace.
Mike

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Nov 3, 2009
 
Im from central Michigan and just heard about this case. What would the motive be for this woman to do this if she did? Was there a history of problems in the family?
laura

Traverse City, MI

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Nov 11, 2009
 
this woman is not sane, there is plenty of history, evidence etc.. she compares her life to movies and seeks attention at a level that is certainly not within the norm. That poor dear Sam. I think she killed him and chickened out when it came to the little girl and herself, but God only knows what went on in her mind. Very sad.
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Traverse City, MI

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Perhaps very shane and calculating. The term "narcissistic" also applies....
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