Wake Up

Tempe, AZ

#282 Sep 23, 2007
I believe the management at RJ Springer is kidding themselves if they think they are going to get away with all of this. They complain that none of their subs were willing to work with them when they got into trouble. Come on people, these are the same owners that were off on vacation 2 to 3 times a month and didn't care how their company was run. Same people that had money to sent canada from their construction loans so they could fund their winery there.(Stone Mountain out of Kelowna). Same people that made promise after promise to their lenders/buyers/subs that the money was coming. Just hang on.

When does their time run out? They are now starting a new company in hopes that they can repurchase their homes at trustee sale and finish them and sell them, without having to make good with the people that they owe millions of dollars to. Remember the name, Camino Homes, as it will probably come back to haunt you. This company is managed by David Ott, husband of Tammie Ott. My understanding is that Pekrul's son Brent is going to be a part of that company as well.(Google his name if you need any info about him)

Wake up people! Do you really think that RJ Springer is going to do anything for you? Do you think their owners care?
Something Smells Fishy

Phoenix, AZ

#283 Sep 24, 2007
Something is fishy with the Trustee Sales that are currently going on - they've substituted trustee's transfered ownership from this LLC to that one - I swear try tracking all of their LLC's it'll make you dizzy. Some of the Lender's involved (when traced back four times over) appear to be tied in with one or more of Springer's LLC's and or NV Corporations (some of which are listed here in AZ as Members, but NV LLC's is not in good standing). Am curious to see who they have designated as their Statutory Agent on the AZ Corp Commission when it's finally posted.
Speaking of the LLC's. My searching revealled something interesting - of all the 50 LLC's for Springer and companies - Gordon only has his name associated with maybe 3? The Statutory Agent listed on one of his and somehow tied into the rest of them? in a backwards round-a-bout way... Was Arrested in August and has since plead GUILTY to TWO COUNTS of CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF A FORGERY DEVICE - Name: Steven D. Flaggman case # cr2007-154789 & cr2007-151666 sentencing is Oct 10 in Maricopa Superior Court.
Whittmannite

Ravenswood, WV

#284 Sep 24, 2007
Just found out that phase #5 at Patton Place had a roll-off dumpster on fire last week. Probably won't be long and we will eventually see a structure up in flames. More criminal acts besides forgery going on here. Talk about fishy business!
AZBEE

Chandler, AZ

#285 Sep 24, 2007
Visited pp5 this week, sad all the houses going to waste, just sitting there, by the way a Class action suit is and will be filed as soon as the non responders decide to get on board, so far only
5 people expressed a interest in doing so, so if any of them read this bog go to the email sent to all at PP% a add your name or do it here, will make notes and add, we can not wait much longer as time become a ememey,
DO SOMETHING

Phoenix, AZ

#286 Sep 24, 2007
AZBEE wrote:
Visited pp5 this week, sad all the houses going to waste, just sitting there, by the way a Class action suit is and will be filed as soon as the non responders decide to get on board, so far only
5 people expressed a interest in doing so, so if any of them read this bog go to the email sent to all at PP% a add your name or do it here, will make notes and add, we can not wait much longer as time become a ememey,
Check with the Title Company... they get calls daily,(letter said to call there if they wanted to cancel? Only problem, the Title Company does not have the earnest deposits, they were released back to the builder as soon as the Public Report was issued) they are sending the calls to their legal department... maybe their legal department has names & numbers compiled that can join forces with the rest of you... it's worth a shot?
ONLOOKER

Phoenix, AZ

#287 Sep 30, 2007
DO SOMETHING wrote:
<quoted text>
This was posted much earlier - during the first couple days or so of this blog... I think some or all of this information has been skipped over. I think it deserves a RE-POST! How many of you on her have visited these three links and written a letter to these three places? It's going to take EVERY ONE of you that own a Springer Home or were under contract to purchase a Springer Home to submit complaints to ALL THREE of the agencies listed above - Believe me, if they get 50+ letter within a short period of time regarding the same company - there will be some investigating done.
METOO wrote:
"William Cooper,
LET'S NOT STOP TRYING! YOU NAMED THE AGENCY'S WHERE THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN SENT. WE ALL KNOW THAT WITH THE GOV THE RIGHT HAND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING - THEY ONLY HANDLE THEIR AREA (EVERYTHING GETS PUT IN A PILE OF PAPERS TO GET TO LATER, AS THEY JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT)
TRY GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION SENT TO THE AGENCY'S BELOW - THEY HANDLE FRAUD - LOAN FRAUD AND SUCH:
THE US DEPT OF JUSTICE - UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/az
THE FBI - PHOENIX DIVISION
http://phoenix.fbi.gov
DEPT OF FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS - THEY ARE PART OF THE TASK FORCE THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE
http://www.azdfi.gov/FraudLine/Intro.htm" ;
IF YOU FEEL AS THOUGH THAT DESERVES A REPOST...THEN SO DOES THIS:
Jul 27, 2007
It was suggested in a previous post to GOOGLE Dean Doty and or Adam Swaney...I believe that the man with all the "information," Mr. William Cooper, is really Gordon Pekrul's estranged cousin, Merton Pekrul (that is if he is willing to reveal his identity). He was employed by Gordon and given a great opportunity (considering his past). Try GOOGLEing him...let us all see who the real "crook" is.
First Link:
REV. MERTON PEKRUL, pastor of Family Bible Church, Mesa, AZ, was fined $100,000, ordered to pay $398,000 to 8 victims and sentenced to a year and a half in prison for his role in a $400,000 gold-digging scheme. He was also fined $58,000 by the Arizona Corporation Commission for various securities violations. He pleaded no contest to reduced charges of abetting an illegal enterprise, in exchange for testifying against his partner. Pekrul still has defenders, even among some of his victims. In the 1970s, Pekrul's ministry took the Evangelical Free Church in Wisconsin Rapids, WI $200,000 in debt.(Tempe Daily News Tribune, 7/15,29/89; Arizona Republic, 8/19/89)
Related site proving Presidency
http://starpas.cc.state.az.us/scripts/cgiip.e ...
I WROTE THAT ON JULY 27TH AND THERE WAS NO RESPONCE. ME TOO IS GIVING INFORMATION (SITES) ABOUT FRAUD TO A MAN WHO HAS COMMITED FRAUD ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION. DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENCE? I HAVEN'T SEEN WILLIAM COOPER (MERT PEKRUL) POSTING ANYTHING ON THIS FORUM FOR A WHILE...SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH THE FIRE IS A FLAME AND HE HAS COWARDED OFF ONCE AGAIN.
Thankful

Flagstaff, AZ

#288 Oct 2, 2007
Interesting thread - makes me thankful I was smart enough not to get screwed by this outfit.
very mad

Glendale, AZ

#289 Oct 2, 2007
AS OF SEPTEMBER 28, R.J.SPRINGER CLOSED THERE DOORS. NOW THEY ARE NOWHERE TO BE FOUND. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO PLEASE LET US KNOW. IS THERE ANY LAW SUITS WE CAN JOIN?
Disappointed

Tempe, AZ

#290 Oct 3, 2007
What is pp%?
Wake up

Phoenix, AZ

#291 Oct 8, 2007
Springer's office doors may have closed, however, you can still get ahold of Gordon Pekrul. If you go onto the Maricopa County Recorder's site and search his name, his home address will show on a couple of the recorded docs.
Also interested in lawyer

Phoenix, AZ

#292 Oct 9, 2007
Disappointed wrote:
What is pp%?
Should be PP5....Patton Place 5
vanished

Glendale, AZ

#293 Oct 16, 2007
We spoke with a lawyer that stated the cost several thousands of dollars to start the complaint. The case was strong but no guarantees that the money would ever be paid even if we win.

The I attempted to go at it alone but it's not an easy task to complete without help.

Can anyone help?
victim in their scheme

United States

#294 Oct 17, 2007
Pick a time and a place and see whom shows up that has interest.
vanished

Glendale, AZ

#295 Oct 18, 2007
Is anyone interested in meeting Ocotber 21, 2007, 1pm?
Location: Starbucks located on Camelback and Dysart NW corner.
We need attempt a complaint or send the Attorney General a letter.
Interested

Phoenix, AZ

#296 Oct 19, 2007
vanished wrote:
Is anyone interested in meeting Ocotber 21, 2007, 1pm?
Location: Starbucks located on Camelback and Dysart NW corner.
We need attempt a complaint or send the Attorney General a letter.
I would be interested in meeting
vanished

Glendale, AZ

#297 Oct 19, 2007
Great, I'll be there to reserve a table for
RJ Springer's vanished dream homes
Nowhere Man

Cave Creek, AZ

#298 Oct 20, 2007
I'll be there.
very mad

Glendale, AZ

#299 Oct 20, 2007
I WILL BE THERE
Future Peoria resident

Phoenix, AZ

#300 Oct 20, 2007
I know of a couple others that will be present also.
Nowhere Man

Cave Creek, AZ

#301 Oct 24, 2007
Does anyone know who has been buying the Patton Place 5 homes at the auctions?

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