Children Put in Harms Way

Children Put in Harms Way

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MT UPSON

Marion, WI

#1 Dec 8, 2007
To All Parents of Children
I am a concerned parent who has a friend who needs help to protect his children we have tried everything that we can think of to get help, but Oconto County will not or won't protect these 3 small children. They are taking them out of a safe enviroment and putting them back into the Lions Den of a know abuser who resides in Suring in the trailer court. These children are only 5,4, and 2 yrs of age. Shawano County gave the father of the 3 children a 30 day temporary custody of them and Oconto County Social Services ,Terri Servais, who only spent an hour with the father and children asking questions told him he would have to return the children next week sometime so he figured he had more time to help his children, until he got a call from Terri to return the children to their mother and step-father Dec. 8. Now he is afraid for their lives. SO I am asking anybody and everybody to please help those 3 small children as you would protect your own children from harm. I am asking for help anyway we can get it suggestions, legal whatever you can think of to get Oconto County to realize there is a serious problem, before one or all 3 are seriouly hurt or ?
Thank You
A Very Concerned Parent

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#2 Apr 26, 2008
How do you know if these children are in danger? Is this information you received coming from the father? Oh wait, if the three children are the ones I think you are talking about, you better get your facts straight. These children were NOT abused but the mother and step father. If you are talking about who I think you are, the mother and father were never married. When these two met, he LIED about being divorced. Did he tell you that? Did he tell you he lied to HIS former step father about being divorced? Did he tell you he lied about how old his youngest was when he met this woman when she was 19 years old and he was 30? Did he tell you he can't hold down a job? Did he tell you every time he got her pregnant, he wanted her to have an abortion?
Did he tell you had no intention on getting a divorce from his wife and why?
I'll tell you why he didn't want a divorce. It was because he didn't want a court order of how much child support he would have to pay. He was happy to have his girlfriend, the mother of these three children, pay his child support for him of $68.00 a month to his wife for 3 kids he never wanted. That's right, he never wanted children, but instead of getting a vasectomy, he played Russian Roulette. You know, what teen age boys do. "I'll pull and you won't get pregnant." Yeah, that worked real good 6 whole times.
The other reason why he didn't want a divorce, is because he didn't want to marry his girlfriend, the mother of those three children. Of course, all of this was before she got pregnant with her third. Did he tell you he refused to claim their youngest? What happened was this, which will be continued in my next post.

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#3 Apr 26, 2008
I believe it was before she got pregnant with their second son, of which he demanded she get an abortion, she bought a mobile home. Then, she got pregnant with their second son.
His three kids from his wife had been calling him, he refused to return their phone call. Do you still think he's a kind and loving daddy?
He didn't even tell his other children that they were expecting another baby. Noooo, they found out when they came down for a visit. Did he tell them when he knew they were coming that they had a new baby brother? Nope. They didn't know they had a new baby brother until they arrived and they saw him. Still think he's a good and loving daddy? When his wife found about the new baby, she'd had enough and filed for divorce and the divorce court set an amount he would have to pay in child support. I will quote what he said: "Now you know why I didn't want a divorce."
Will, money became tight after the birth of her second son and they decided to sell the mobile home to a friend of HIS. All the guy had to do was take over the payments.
The couple then moved in once again with his sister,(who is in my opinion is an unfit parent, seeing as she allowed her children to run up on the road and nearly get hit by cars), in her unsafe run down mobile home that she allowed to fall apart. The place had no heat, they were using the oven to heat the double wide, the ceiling in one bedroom and fallen down. All of this with little ones running around.
She didn't want to move in with his sister. The last time they did, his sister was suppose to be watching the kids. She left the baby outside, unsupervised in a car carrier for hours while she missed around with her horses. Still think he's a good loving daddy?
So, she signed up for low income housing and was approved. They asked how much rent they would pay if he moved in with her and because at that time he was working, based on his income for a 3 bedroom apartment, they would have to pay a little over $400 a month. He refused to pay that much so HE refused to move with. Instead, he sponged off of his sister.
So now they aren't living together, but they are still seeing each other. They didn't break up at this point. Then, she got pregnant with their daughter and guess what? He demanded she get an abortion, just as he demanded she do with her first two babies. Still think he's daddy of the year?
When she didn't get an abortion, they broke up and suddenly he isn't the daddy. Sound familiar? It should. He did the same thing to his wife when she was expecting their third. It wasn't his.
So now, the guy who bought her mobile home stopped making the payments and had moved out. She moved back into it and met a neighbor of hers who was a single father of 2 boys. They fell in love, he moved in with her and they are now married.

To be continued

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#4 Apr 26, 2008
Now, I can tell you exactly who I think this father is that you speak about. I bet his name is Brian or Bryan, however he spells his name, last name initial starts with a C. Well, let me tell you more.
This man has made her life a complete h&ll ever since they broke up. He wants custody so he won't have to pay child support on three more kids he never wanted to have. Oh, he puts on a pretty good show when he has an audience, but don't let that fool you. I have seen him in action myself.
LOL, yeah. He probably can figure out who I am right about now. You see, I can't stand a liar who tells people I care about that he's divorced when he isn't. Anyway, he has threatened her for a long time that he was going to get custody of the boys. He says a lot sh*t to her and about her just to hurt her. Believe me, she did NOTHING wrong towards him except to leave him, pretty much I'm sure just like his wife did when she got tired of his lazy butt so she suddenly became known as "the crazy b*tch. He now says the same thing about his ex girlfriend.
So now, he makes up allegations about his children being abused. H&ll, the mother of these children has never disciplined her children a day in their lives. I'll tell you one thing though, ever since her husband had moved in with her before they got married, I saw a great change in those children, all for the good.
They are more settled down and very very loving. Before, these children were not big on showing affection, now they are. They give hugs, they tell you they love you. They love their step father who is more of a daddy to them then Brian will ever be and their mother knows, if she needs anyone to testify on her behalf, I'll be there with bells on along with her whole family.
Before the mother of these children met the man she married, she would come over with the kids. The daughter was just a baby, but even when she had just the oldest, before she had her second son, she would come over. I tell ya, if that boy was mine, he would have gotten a spanking a long time ago. I'm not talking about a hard spanking, just a good old fashioned swat on the butt with an open hand, or I would have taken his Elmo away from him and sent him to his room until he stopped his screaming.
If she told him no about something or told him to stop hitting or kicking, he would have a screaming tantrum of the worse kind. He would hit her, tell her to go away, tell her he doesn't like her anymore, and even hit his baby brother and she would pick him and cuddle him. That's right, she would reward him instead of discipline him and you think she and the step father abused those children? It never happened. Neither one of them have ever put a hand on those children.
Maybe you should ask why his twin brother's wife never wants Bryan/Brian to move in with them. She's told Brian's brother he better make a choice. It's either her or his brother. He chose her over his twin brother. Yup, if Brian had moved in, she and her kids were leaving.
So, before you make unfounded allegations, you should really talk to the people here who know more than you about what is going on.
I think tomorrow I should let the mother of these children know that you posted this garbabge here about her.

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#5 Apr 26, 2008
Well, I did call the mother of these three children and now I know who you are. People, the person who made the first post, is none other than the father's girlfriend. So, you didn't make this post as a concerned parent who is only a friend of the father also known as Brian C., you are his girlfriend.
So, you like to lie as much as he does. God help you if you get pregnant by him, unless you have your tubes tied. So now we know you actually have an alterior motive making this post and it was out of being a concerned parent, but to help your boyfriend gain custody so he wouldn't have to pay child support on three children he never wanted to have.
Read my posts carefully because they are all true. If you don't believe me, I'll give you the name of her person who knows Brian better than anyone.
LOL, did Brian think no one would contact the mother of these three children and learn who you are? God, and he's suppose to have a high IQ? I never did see evidence of him having a high IQ. More like a photgraphic memory which doesn't mean you have a IQ.
Hey Brian, how's that Russian Roulette been working out for you? Still enjoying having a woman support you?
Ms. Upson, there are a lot of people who knows Brian a lot better than you ever will.
Let me tell you exactly how it came about that he met the mother of these three children. I should know because I was there.
Do you know who I am now Brian?
It goes like this. Brian showed up at his former step father's home, needing a place to stay, his step father offered him a room. Apparently he was living with his twin brother and his wife or girlfriend and D's wife or girlfriend said, either Brian goes or I do. D chose his wife over Brian so Brian had to go. His step father had asked Brian how his wife and kids were and Brian told him he was divorced. I guess Brian had been there about a month when he asked his step dad if he knew of any women he could meet.

To be continued

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#6 Apr 26, 2008
Brian's step father thought of the woman who was living at my house who was 19 at the time. He has since regretted introducing them. He didn't know Brian was going such a jackass. Brian was almost 30, but we didn't know that then.
She was nervous about meeting him by herself and since my daughter and her grandson was over for a visit, we all went with her.
My grandson was about 6 or 8 months old at the time and Brian cooed over him, asking how old he was, telling my daughter that's a great age for a baby. Keep in mind, only my friend and I knew what his step father told us about Brian being divorced. My daughter didn't know.
My daughter asked Brian if he had kids, and he said yes. He had three and the youngest was 5 years old. My daughter then asked him if he was married and he said no, he was divorced and hadn't been with his wife for 5 years.
Months went by and now and then, old Brian would screw up when talking about his so called ex wife. He would call her his wife, and then correct himself and say, I mean ex wife.
Now, if a man has been divorced for any length of time, he doesn't make a mistake like that. Well, old Brian screwed up in front of his step dad by calling his so called ex wife, his wife. His step dad said, you mean your ex wife.
Brian said, well. Actually, we're not divorced. After a few days, his step dad called me and told me that Brian had lied about being divorced. He wasn't, he was still very much married to his wife and not only that, he lied about the age of his youngest boy. His youngest son was actually 3 years old.
Well, his girlfriend came over for a visit about a week or later, or maybe I called her and asked her to come over, but anyway, I told her the truth about Brian. I told her, how can you have a relationship with someone when it's based on a lie.
It's one thing to lie about having a girlfriend in another town or State, but to lie about being single? Needless to say, she didn't believe me until she went home and asked him herslef. By this time, there were living together at his sister's mobile when it was still in pretty good shape.

To be continued

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#7 Apr 26, 2008
His reason for lying about being divorced? I'll quote it for you: "It wasn't anyone's business."
Excuse me, you have a girlfriend and you don't think she has the right to know your married? You don't think she had the right to know before she even started a relationship with you?
All Brian does is nothing BUT lie. Everyone else is crazy except him.
Do you know who I am now Brian?
Ms. Upson, do you know who spent time with his children when they would come for a visit? It wasn't Brian, I can tell you that much. It was the mother these children you accuse of abusing. Do you think if she abused these children, he would allow them to be with her alone?
If you don't believe me, if or when they come to your home, you ask them who spent the most time with them. You ask them if they remember coming to my home and planting seeds in my garden with me. They had the most fun that day and every time they came over, they would bring their little toy rakes and hoes, some seeds and would want to plant them in my garden. Go ahead, you ask them. I'm not sure if the youngest boy would remember, but his older brother and sister will.
Brian would promise to spend more time with them, take them to the park and he would break those promises. He would hold up in the "computer" room.
Ask his older kids about that. But, I guess you wouldn't care about that. Your more interested in helping wrecking a family so he won't have to dish out any more money on child support.
Hey, if he doesn't want to pay the child support, all he has to do is give up all rights to them. That's all he has to do. Once it's approved by the courts, he won't have to pay child support on them AFTER he get's the final decree. Not before he get's it, but after he get's the final decree.
While it is still going through the court system he will still have to pay, not that he pays that much anyway, if at all.
Wow, I could tell you a lot about Brian he's never told you and so could a lot of people around here.

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#8 Apr 26, 2008
Juuust one more thing. You can go ahead and remove the post you made, but it won't do any good. I've already saved it onto my computer so if at any time it is needed, all I need to do is print the whole thing out, inlcuding my posts in response to you.
Karma bites doesn't it Brian? When you try to trash someone, its going to come and bite you in the behind.
The allegations you made about abuse was totally unfounded. THAT is why they were returned, because her son refused to tell them the story you wanted him to tell them. He couldn't keep straight the story you wanted him to tell Children Services. You got caught big time.
You better hope to God her brothers never find out you put your girlfriend up to this. I have a feeling they will find out though, but it won't be from me.

Since: Apr 08

Rio, WI

#9 Apr 26, 2008
Well, I did call the mother of these three children and now I know who you are. People, the person who made the first post, is none other than the father's girlfriend. So, you didn't make this post as a concerned parent who is only a friend of the father also known as Brian C., you are his girlfriend.
So, you like to lie as much as he does. God help you if you get pregnant by him, unless you have your tubes tied. So now we know you actually have an alterior motive making this post and it wasn't because you're a concerned parent, but to help your boyfriend gain custody so he wouldn't have to pay child support on three children he never wanted to have.
Read my posts carefully because they are all true. If you don't believe me, I'll give you the name of the person who knows Brian better than anyone.
LOL, did Brian think no one would contact the mother of these three children and learn who you are? God, and he's suppose to have a high IQ? I never did see evidence of him having a high IQ. More like a photgraphic memory which doesn't mean you have a IQ.
Hey Brian, how's that Russian Roulette been working out for you? Still enjoying having a woman support you?
Ms. Upson, there are a lot of people who know Brian a lot better than you ever will.
Let me tell you exactly how it came about that he met the mother of these three children. I should know because I was there.
Do you know who I am now Brian?
It goes like this. Brian showed up at his former step father's home, needing a place to stay, his step father offered him a room. Apparently he was living with his twin brother and his wife or girlfriend and D's wife or girlfriend said, either Brian goes or I do. D chose his wife over Brian so Brian had to go. His step father had asked Brian how his wife and kids were and Brian told him he was divorced. I guess Brian had been there about a month when he asked his step dad if he knew of any women he could meet.
To be continued
SuringWench

Redgranite, WI

#10 Jul 23, 2008
His step dad thought about this young woman who about 19 at the time and she was staying with us. His former step dad called and asked if she would like to meet Brian. She didn't want to meet him on her own though and asked me and my daughter to go with her. My daughter took her infant son along and Brian showed interest in him, asking how old he was, saying that was a great age.
My daughter even asked him if he was married and he said no, he was divorced, he hadn't been with his wife in 5 years. He said his youngest was 5 years old.
The young woman and Brian started dating and then she moved in with him. They bounced around for a while, getting their own place and then moving in with his sister off and on.
Then came the day when his former step father called me and told me Brian got caught in a lie. Too often, when Brian would mention his so called ex wife, he would screw up and say "my wife." He did that to his former step father and his former step father said, "you mean your ex wife, right?"
Brian finally admitted that he lied, he wasn't divoced. He was still married and his youngest was actually 3 years old, but she's a crazy "B" and the 3 year old isn't his.
The young lady came to my house for a visit a few days after Brian's former step dad told me Brian was still married and I told her when she came over.
She didn't believe, but when she went home, she asked Brian and admitted to her he was still married. When she asked him why he lied, he said it wasn't anyone's business whether or not he was married.
Excuse me???? Don't you think she had the right to know before she got too involved with him? For some reason of which I can't see, she was in love with him and instead kicking lazy arse out, she stayed and became pregnant with their first.

So Ms. Upson, before you post something that could get you into civil court for slander, you should get all of your facts straight.
The mother of these children and the man she married, never ever put a hand to those children. The poor kid in question couldn't even keep his story straight of what Brian wanted him to tell children services. I will be sure to pass the post you made onto the case worker. I am sure she will be very interested and will keep it in the file in case you or Brian try to pull this stunt again.
Charleston bound

Atherton, CA

#11 Sep 24, 2008
Are you kidding me? I can't believe someone would post such garbage a mother like that. I can see exactly why the boyfriend put his girlfriend up to this. These are obviously bogus accusations and thank God it was stopped by the case worker. I happen to be a case worker and I have seen countless false allegations of abuse by a non custodial parent who wants custody of his/her children.
Some of them were proven unfounded, just as it appears it was in this case, while other cases were proven to be founded. We do not take child abuse lightly. We look at all of the evidence, we visit the home and we question the child. In some cases, the child is even taken to a physician for an examination.
This child never had any injuries before, and from what I understand from SuringWench's posts, the father of these children has some kind of mental issues.
I believe he may be a sociopath and if he never wanted children, he should have done something about himself. I know of plenty of men who got vasectomies when they were in their early 20's because they never wanted to bring children into the world.
May I suggest to MT Upson that she looks into her boyfriends past more closely and listen to what SuringWench has told you? It sounds like she knows this guy pretty good.
SuringWench

Randolph, WI

#12 May 11, 2009
Wow, I heard your dead beat dad boyfriend spent some time in jail for not paying child support so he now he has decided to give up all rights to his kids. What a loving and caring dad he is.....NOT.
To whom

Chesterfield, MO

#13 Feb 16, 2011
id say move 2 grant co u will have a better chance in saving those kids.
Shane

Haslet, TX

#14 May 24, 2012
I have a similar situation. My children were being abused by an older half sister in their mothers house. and DHS did absolutly nothing to protect them, even after a professional Forensic interview proved they were actually being abused, DHS needs to be shut down. I now have full custody of my children and I am currently suing DHS for neglegence. That dad needs to fight for his children. and as far as Suring Wench goes, you do not want to hear my opinion or your ranting mouth. people like you need to learn how to shut your mouth and mind your own. Who the crap do you think you are? stay out of what dosn't concern you. We need much less of people like you in this world. Go to the Sheriff department of the local police, whomever governs your area. any time you see any marks on the kids, force them to take photos and make a report. I used to be a detention Officer for my sheriff department. I respect the officers I worked with very much, but fact is, they hate writing reports, and many of them are just down right lazy. You have to be insistant. But get photos and reports. It does not good to take photos yourself. It will not stand up in court. My children were proven to be abused even in a professional forensic interview, and DHS still did nothing, convinced they children were safe with their abusing mother. I was able to get my children though, and now have full custody and my ex dosn't even have any visitation rights. You can do this, and I encourage you to keep fighting if you honestly feel that your children are in danger. If your just being an ass, then you are wrong. but only you can know this, and if you are, god will deal with you in the end, and carma in the mean time. but by all means, protect your children if you feel you need to. If you don't who will? DHS don't give two craps about them I promise. Get a lawyer, and a copy of police reports and go file at your local District court for an Emergency Ex Parte Order of protection. That is the only way you can protect those children. DHS can't say crap over the evidence and decision of a District judge. I hope things work out for your children. they are the only ones that matter in this situation.
Shane

Haslet, TX

#15 May 24, 2012
And Im not sure why this thing put Katy TX, I am in Skiatook, Oklahoma Osage County

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