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Worries increase that MI gas prices are up

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Corn guzzler

Big Rapids, MI

#22 Sep 13, 2008
As I sit and read comments all over web, like so many are ding this morning, I thank my lucky stars for my E85 flex fuel van. My husband went to fill up his work truck last night before gas gets any higher, and several of the local stations had price jumps and others were out of gas. This just goes to show that we need more alternative fuels for driving our nations vehicles. Some critics say we need to get rid of all trucks and S.U.V.'s. Well for anyone who makes a living with a truck that would be unrealistic. IE farmers, construction workers, utilities workers, ect. How about the rural people, like me, who would not be able to get to main roads in the winter if it were not for four wheel drive vehicles? No, we can not take away the gas guzzlers. We must use other fuels. I am proud to own an Ethanol vehicle. Some critics say this has raised the cost of all corn based foods. I say, want to know what has raised all of our food from milk to corn to meat to soda, take one look at our nations fuel costs. Take one look at the cost of diesil and immagine filling a semi so that you can pick up milk from dairy farmers or to drive canned goods across the nation. I use my Ethanol, made from corn, wood chips, and even grass. Did you know that Ethanol cars have been made since the 80's? Many cars are flex fuel and you wouldn't even know it. Check your owners manual. Some even have a sticker on the gas door. My van is 10 years old and runs like a top on ethanol. As far as the battery opperated cars, they are wonderful too. But they do have some serious down falls. The poor and middle class can not afford them. Also, with national utility bills on the rise, and it is progected that utilities will be at thier highest this winter, plugging your car in at night will run up that bill too. We need to find an affordable solution to our nations, and our worlds dependence on oil. How? I am unsure at this point, but until then I will be a corn guzzler!
Pat S

Lyons, IL

#23 Sep 13, 2008
In Allendale gas is $4.19 a gallon,amazing same gas in the ground yesterday was $3.88. But we don't price gouge in Mi. YAH!!!!!
michael g

Kalamazoo, MI

#24 Sep 13, 2008
Corn guzzler wrote:
As I sit and read comments all over web, like so many are ding this morning, I thank my lucky stars for my E85 flex fuel van. My husband went to fill up his work truck last night before gas gets any higher, and several of the local stations had price jumps and others were out of gas. This just goes to show that we need more alternative fuels for driving our nations vehicles. Some critics say we need to get rid of all trucks and S.U.V.'s. Well for anyone who makes a living with a truck that would be unrealistic. IE farmers, construction workers, utilities workers, ect. How about the rural people, like me, who would not be able to get to main roads in the winter if it were not for four wheel drive vehicles? No, we can not take away the gas guzzlers. We must use other fuels. I am proud to own an Ethanol vehicle. Some critics say this has raised the cost of all corn based foods. I say, want to know what has raised all of our food from milk to corn to meat to soda, take one look at our nations fuel costs. Take one look at the cost of diesil and immagine filling a semi so that you can pick up milk from dairy farmers or to drive canned goods across the nation. I use my Ethanol, made from corn, wood chips, and even grass. Did you know that Ethanol cars have been made since the 80's? Many cars are flex fuel and you wouldn't even know it. Check your owners manual. Some even have a sticker on the gas door. My van is 10 years old and runs like a top on ethanol. As far as the battery opperated cars, they are wonderful too. But they do have some serious down falls. The poor and middle class can not afford them. Also, with national utility bills on the rise, and it is progected that utilities will be at thier highest this winter, plugging your car in at night will run up that bill too. We need to find an affordable solution to our nations, and our worlds dependence on oil. How? I am unsure at this point, but until then I will be a corn guzzler!
Yeah, I wish I had one too. I'd love to pay 85% of the price of regular gas to get 65% of the mileage. That would be a life saver.

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#25 Sep 13, 2008
Ann wrote:
The whole thing is hype. Gas prices only increased by 11 cents/gallon where I'm at. Everytime I have read a story on gas prices someone has always said "I heard". Not a soul has been able to confirm any major increase. The media would be all over a story if there were $5.00/gallon gas. That level of price gouging is just to obvious.
Here's an accurate price from today. Speedway at 68th and 131 was 3.89/gal this morning at 9:45. Thought about stopping and filling up. Coming back through and was going to stop after bowling and groceries and it was up to 4.19/gal. So, we went up 30 cents in 4 hours?!?!? Seems to me like everyone had raised their prices, so they must have 'had to' also.

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#26 Sep 13, 2008
Corn guzzler wrote:
As I sit and read comments all over web, like so many are ding this morning, I thank my lucky stars for my E85 flex fuel van. My husband went to fill up his work truck last night before gas gets any higher, and several of the local stations had price jumps and others were out of gas. This just goes to show that we need more alternative fuels for driving our nations vehicles. Some critics say we need to get rid of all trucks and S.U.V.'s. Well for anyone who makes a living with a truck that would be unrealistic. IE farmers, construction workers, utilities workers, ect. How about the rural people, like me, who would not be able to get to main roads in the winter if it were not for four wheel drive vehicles? No, we can not take away the gas guzzlers. We must use other fuels. I am proud to own an Ethanol vehicle. Some critics say this has raised the cost of all corn based foods. I say, want to know what has raised all of our food from milk to corn to meat to soda, take one look at our nations fuel costs. Take one look at the cost of diesil and immagine filling a semi so that you can pick up milk from dairy farmers or to drive canned goods across the nation. I use my Ethanol, made from corn, wood chips, and even grass. Did you know that Ethanol cars have been made since the 80's? Many cars are flex fuel and you wouldn't even know it. Check your owners manual. Some even have a sticker on the gas door. My van is 10 years old and runs like a top on ethanol. As far as the battery opperated cars, they are wonderful too. But they do have some serious down falls. The poor and middle class can not afford them. Also, with national utility bills on the rise, and it is progected that utilities will be at thier highest this winter, plugging your car in at night will run up that bill too. We need to find an affordable solution to our nations, and our worlds dependence on oil. How? I am unsure at this point, but until then I will be a corn guzzler!
Yep, you pay a fraction less for fuel and you get about 60% less millage. Not to mention that there is a limit to the stations you can get flex fuel at. I know it would have taken more money to drive to NY for family vacation on flex fuel than it did regular unleaded.

“Coffee should come..with an IV”

Since: Jun 08

Royal Tunbridge Wells

#27 Sep 13, 2008
neecer wrote:
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Yep, you pay a fraction less for fuel and you get about 60% less millage. Not to mention that there is a limit to the stations you can get flex fuel at. I know it would have taken more money to drive to NY for family vacation on flex fuel than it did regular unleaded.
im still higher than you are !!!
HI NEECER!!!!
we are almost 9.00 a gal now, but no worries..hey my putor finally back up, see ya on lets chat :)!
reader

Traverse City, MI

#28 Sep 13, 2008
Doesn't matter if u buy your gas cheap today, you will still pay for it tomorrow. When was the last time all of you went and got a gallon of gas for a buck? Buy the gas like the little sheep that you are.
Corn guzzler

Big Rapids, MI

#29 Sep 13, 2008
actually my van runs the same exact miles on either fuel. Maybe its because my van is 10 years old and has 200,000 miles but my fuel economy does not change.
Twit

United States

#30 Sep 13, 2008
So what prices constitute gouging? The Speedway station at 36th/Burlingame in Wyoming, Michigan has a gallon of regular for $4.19, the Speedway at 44th/Byron Center the same, and the Marathon station at 44th/Wilson in Grandville also at 4.19/gal for regular. Is that gouging?

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#31 Sep 13, 2008
neecer wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, you pay a fraction less for fuel and you get about 60% less millage. Not to mention that there is a limit to the stations you can get flex fuel at. I know it would have taken more money to drive to NY for family vacation on flex fuel than it did regular unleaded.
That's the same problem my son has found with his flex-fuel vehicle. The has figured out that E-85 needs to be about 20% cheaper than regular unleaded just to break even with the gas mileage difference (He does this kind of stuff in his head). So on a $4.00 gallon of regular gas, E-85 needs to be around $3.20 a gallon just for him to break even. He says it's not worth it. His vehicle starts better, runs better and obviously gets better gas mileage running regular gas vs. E-85. And thats not even getting into the issue of how ethanol production has hit our grocery bills (More corn grown for ethanol ='s less acres in production of actual food products ='s higher prices at the grocery store).
were screwed

Salt Lake City, UT

#32 Sep 13, 2008
Regardless of who ends up in the White House. We are screwed. we might as well accept that and lower our blood pressure in the process.

I'll trade gas for beer. And I'll be happier for it.
Alvin

Dillon, CO

#33 Sep 13, 2008
were screwed wrote:
Regardless of who ends up in the White House. We are screwed. we might as well accept that and lower our blood pressure in the process.
I'll trade gas for beer. And I'll be happier for it.
I didn't think they let you drink beer in Holland! Good idea tho.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#34 Sep 13, 2008
were screwed wrote:
Regardless of who ends up in the White House. We are screwed. we might as well accept that and lower our blood pressure in the process.
I'll trade gas for beer. And I'll be happier for it.
LOL, A gallon gas?$4.19. A 12 pack of Natural Light?$5.19. That figures out to $4.61 a gallon for beer. That gallon of beer lasts longer than a gallon of gas LMAO.

“Information doesn't kill you.”

Since: Apr 08

Aurora, CO

#35 Sep 13, 2008
Gas was 3.89 at 10am at the speedway on plainfield by k&m dodge. When I drove home at 11am it was 4.19.... That's duckin' reficulous.

Gouging will probably only be determined if one or two stations are greatly out of line with the others, but if they ALL go up, they can probably claim supply and demand or something other than gouging.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#36 Sep 13, 2008
GR Teacher wrote:
Gas was 3.89 at 10am at the speedway on plainfield by k&m dodge. When I drove home at 11am it was 4.19.... That's duckin' reficulous.
Gouging will probably only be determined if one or two stations are greatly out of line with the others, but if they ALL go up, they can probably claim supply and demand or something other than gouging.
I think that's probably the way it works. One Station (usually Speedway) raises their prices and the other stations just follow. It would be difficult to prove gouging when the whole market is charging the same price per gallon.

“Information doesn't kill you.”

Since: Apr 08

Aurora, CO

#37 Sep 13, 2008
Hurley35 wrote:
<quoted text>I think that's probably the way it works. One Station (usually Speedway) raises their prices and the other stations just follow. It would be difficult to prove gouging when the whole market is charging the same price per gallon.
The odd thing was that Speedway was the only one at 3.89 every other station on Plainfield was @ 4.09 already. They stayed at 4.09 when Speedway jumped. But yeah, typically Speedway is the first to raise, they have definitely earned the nickname of Greedway.
Jim B

Loveland, CO

#38 Sep 13, 2008
Yo, we need to replace the republican administration with their ties to big oil, I work with sereral refineries and know for a fact that they are running at half capacity. I jokingly asked one of my contacts if they could work a little harder and pump out a little more gas, He jokingly responed that he was sitting outside with his feet on cooler, doing half the work and making twice as much money.
sbo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yo Jim- Gas was $1.50/gallon in January 2001.It was $2/gallon just prior to the mid-term elections two years ago when Republicans lost control of Congress. It reached well over $4/gallon this summer. Soooooo, it went up .50 the first 6 years Bush was in office and it has doubled to $4 in the last 2 years. I think we need to get the Democrats out of Congress and make sure we don't end up with one in the White House too.
Alvin

Dillon, CO

#39 Sep 13, 2008
The Dems have such a slight advantage in Congress and for such a short time it's almost as if that isn't a legitimate argument.
sbo

Riverside, CA

#41 Sep 13, 2008
Jim B wrote:
Yo, we need to replace the republican administration with their ties to big oil, I work with sereral refineries and know for a fact that they are running at half capacity. I jokingly asked one of my contacts if they could work a little harder and pump out a little more gas, He jokingly responed that he was sitting outside with his feet on cooler, doing half the work and making twice as much money.
<quoted text>
And you lazy, gouging contact is GW's fault how?
Alvin wrote:
The Dems have such a slight advantage in Congress and for such a short time it's almost as if that isn't a legitimate argument.
Short time or not, it doesn't change the fact that fuel has doubled since the "don't drill here police" have taken control. Coincidence? I think not.

If you folks want fuel to really skyrocket, vote in the Democrats. They want nothing more than high fuel prices, Obama has even said he wants fuel prices high.

“Dude, Where's my car?”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#42 Sep 14, 2008
Jim B wrote:
Yo, we need to replace the republican administration with their ties to big oil, I work with sereral refineries and know for a fact that they are running at half capacity. I jokingly asked one of my contacts if they could work a little harder and pump out a little more gas, He jokingly responed that he was sitting outside with his feet on cooler, doing half the work and making twice as much money.
<quoted text>
Yes, if Obama get's in office he will make a speech and put the fear of god in those big oil companies and make them be good. The big oil lobby in Denver was to the tune of 10 of millions of dollars. They have the democratic party in their pocket as much if not more than the republican party. Great choice huh?

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