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N.H. tax evaders Ed and Elaine Brown guilty on all weapons counts

Full story: Brattleboro Reformer

Tax evaders Ed and Elaine Brown were convicted Thursday on all counts of plotting to kill federal agents during a nine-month standoff at their fort-like home in rural New Hampshire.

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estanson

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Jul 9, 2009
 
so, the weapons charges stick even though they have a constitutional right to have guns...and the tax charges stick even though the fed govt has no constitutional right to tax....
sounds about right....

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Bellows Falls, VT

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Jul 10, 2009
 
This is a horrible miscarriage of justice.

They were trying to make a point about legal holes in the Federal Tax System, it got out of hand because of others jumping on the bandwagon, and now these folks pretty much face a mandatory prison sentence for the rest of their life.

I can't believe the government was able to prove intent to kill federal agents. This was not Ruby Ridge or Waco.

So much for their state motto.
flat lander

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Jul 10, 2009
 
If they gave them life then I wish they would live to be 150old. waco is our cut off point. it used to be bonnie and clyde and whity bulger.
proudamerican

Durham, NH

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Jul 12, 2009
 
Vermont citizen wrote:
This is a horrible miscarriage of justice.
They were trying to make a point about legal holes in the Federal Tax System, it got out of hand because of others jumping on the bandwagon, and now these folks pretty much face a mandatory prison sentence for the rest of their life.
I can't believe the government was able to prove intent to kill federal agents. This was not Ruby Ridge or Waco.
So much for their state motto.
It seems that this is all a dream,I dont know all the details,but if you made 2 million why not pay your taxes and live the comfortable life that you worked so hard to get?
Elmer Fudd

Hampton Falls, NH

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Jul 12, 2009
 
proudamerican wrote:
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It seems that this is all a dream,I dont know all the details,but if you made 2 million why not pay your taxes and live the comfortable life that you worked so hard to get?
Maybe you feel the money is yours? And not the governments?
proudamerican

Durham, NH

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Jul 12, 2009
 
Elmer Fudd wrote:
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Maybe you feel the money is yours? And not the governments?
Well "elmer" Im not sure where you got such a view on what I wrote at all.

What I wrote should indeed translate into that they should have paid their taxes and continued to live their life,like everyone should.

I think you read what I wrote wrong in every possible way!
Elmer Fudd

Hampton Falls, NH

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Jul 13, 2009
 
proudamerican wrote:
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Well "elmer" Im not sure where you got such a view on what I wrote at all.
What I wrote should indeed translate into that they should have paid their taxes and continued to live their life,like everyone should.
I think you read what I wrote wrong in every possible way!
I guess you don't understand people that want to keep the money they earn.

You must be a Marxist.
Localkid

Gretna, LA

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Jul 13, 2009
 
Elmer, I would say that we disagree on this one. I also like to keep my money, but I take advantage of the numerous loopholes etc that the goverment has put into our tax system. I do not just refuse to pay my taxes. I agree that our government is WAY too big and getting bigger. I also agree that I would like to keep more of my money as I don't agree with how our government is getting more socialist everyday (especially here in VT.) In the end there is a wrong way and right way to fight the system.
Elmer Fudd

Halethorpe, MD

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Jul 13, 2009
 
Localkid wrote:
Elmer, I would say that we disagree on this one. I also like to keep my money, but I take advantage of the numerous loopholes etc that the goverment has put into our tax system. I do not just refuse to pay my taxes. I agree that our government is WAY too big and getting bigger. I also agree that I would like to keep more of my money as I don't agree with how our government is getting more socialist everyday (especially here in VT.) In the end there is a wrong way and right way to fight the system.
Actually, I think we agree.
flat lander

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Jul 13, 2009
 
the browns are righting a book and some trival facts have come forth. ed meet elaine at the harmony lot buying ammo back in the black panther days and soon were harden on clark and canal sts. studying Victorian housing and art and painting but soon went to the dark side after one stroll down the DIRTY BOULEVARD to a tap room where they were convinced to build a fortress. after meeting with free staters and tax dodges in their capital ofweirdo's brattleboro the rest is history.
flat lander

Logan, IL

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Jul 13, 2009
 
I meant writing while righting their version of their good book oh well
Joe

Chester, VT

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Jul 13, 2009
 
They just don't understand the system, pay off the mafia bosses or else.
proudamerican

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Jul 13, 2009
 
Elmer Fudd wrote:
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I guess you don't understand people that want to keep the money they earn.
You must be a Marxist.
I believe in paying my taxes,Elmer,end of story!!!
If your indeed looking to argue with someone you have picked the wrong one,its not my style.
flat lander

North Aurora, IL

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Jul 14, 2009
 
JOE Proudamerican sounds like he wants to pay your taxes for you. lets not end this story yet.
Joe

Chester, VT

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Jul 14, 2009
 
flat lander wrote:
JOE Proudamerican sounds like he wants to pay your taxes for you. lets not end this story yet.
I noticed there are lots of willing volunteers so decided to sit back for awhile and watch them do just that, it's entertaining.
By 2012 local,state and federal taxes will be about double, I'm sure the hero's will just step up to the plate and pay without a wimper.

it's for the children don't you know.
ProudAmerican

Durham, NH

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Jul 16, 2009
 
flat lander wrote:
JOE Proudamerican sounds like he wants to pay your taxes for you. lets not end this story yet.
I guess you need glasses as well. Where the hell do you get that from? I believe in paying my share,do I love the different sysetms in this country (welfare!) not for a minute,but I will be paying my taxes and enjoying my life and not worrying if someone is coming after me. Do what ever it is that makes you happy. Dont read into something that I didnt write. Thats foolish
flat lander

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Jul 16, 2009
 
proud american should keep a ban aid over those sore nerves that I exposed. and for the glasses one will do but I may ask for second short or three fingers of the biggest hand. why are you still paying taxes and enjoying life you must have to much loose change.
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Durham, NH

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Jul 16, 2009
 
flat lander wrote:
proud american should keep a ban aid over those sore nerves that I exposed. and for the glasses one will do but I may ask for second short or three fingers of the biggest hand. why are you still paying taxes and enjoying life you must have to much loose change.
You are very wrong,no sore nerves here,you are a person that looks to argue over nothing. I believe n paying my taxes,end of story,unless you decide to make something else up over my words.

Your words make no sense at all,but thats ok,you continue doing what makes you happy.

Do you read what you wrote? Why do I pay taxes??? Because its the LAW!!!
flat lander

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Jul 17, 2009
 
well I try to build on your words but the footing keeps slipping out. I'll move on and try to get by with your advise but the cop told me keep moving along. thanks for the advise and all the free things that they give you with the welcome wagon up in springfield.
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

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Jul 17, 2009
 
Elmer Fudd wrote:
I guess you don't understand people that want to keep the money they earn.
What, ALL of it?? Does that mean you're willing to stay off government-constructed roads, stay out of government-made parks, put out your own house fire instead of call the government fire department, help pay people's private school bills so they don't have to use government schools, go fight our enemies on your own to avoid the need for the government military, not use Medicaid, etc. etc.?
Elmer Fudd wrote:
You must be a Marxist.
Beware, Elmer, they're behind every tree, they're lurking under your bed, they're going to GET YOU!!!!
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