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Big Walnut: 3rd school levy attempt critical

There are 60 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Sep 9, 2010, titled Big Walnut: 3rd school levy attempt critical. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

No more extracurricular activities or athletics. An exodus of involved parents and good students.

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Shut IT DOWN

Pataskala, OH

#2 Sep 9, 2010
Take the sports out of the schools completely. Run them on a separate and privately funded budget. That takes the politics out of it and saves taxpayers a ton of money. It has gotten out of hand and people can't afford it anymore.
Marysville MOM

Powell, OH

#3 Sep 9, 2010
You know I am really sick of school districts playing these scare tactics with our children. They take away everything that makes school enjoyable and of course keeps everything that will allow kids to work harder on the state tests!!!!
Has anyone looked into how much the superintendents make? assistance superintendents?

In marysville we have to pay $150 for all extra curricular activities! no discounts for more than one team played in a season, no family discounts, no yearly cap on how much you will spend on play to pay! now think about this if big walnut pays the same then a team of 25 kids will net the school $3750.... that is just one program and let me tell you each sport team has at least 30 kids on it!(schools don't like cutting players because they don't make as much money).

STOP MAKING SCHOOL A TESTING CENTER!!!! these kids deserve a well rounded education not just the test material!

You want us to pass levy's??? then give our kids something in return....
teresa

Dublin, OH

#4 Sep 9, 2010
Dispatch did it again. Wiped out comments on previous identical story. Why do they play these games? Why not just do away with comments altogether? Be sure and visit the web site of the guy who is offering info. about this levy. You won't get the truth from the board or the school employees. All the Dispatch will do is promote higher taxes and more government control. That's their job.
Got that right

Euclid, OH

#6 Sep 9, 2010
Time and time again schools play the same old "we need more money" game. For what? Can they prove they have way more kids and thus costs are higher? They never give the details and the likely reason why is to hide the excessive compensation the superintendent and office staff get. And to keep it they will lay off teachers, reduce their salaries, end sports and extra-curricular activities, etc. If they want more money than show the truth...reveal to us your budget in full detail and let us decide then.
Uncle Bob

Norwich, OH

#7 Sep 9, 2010
Marysville MOM wrote:
You know I am really sick of school districts playing these scare tactics with our children. They take away everything that makes school enjoyable and of course keeps everything that will allow kids to work harder on the state tests!!!!
Has anyone looked into how much the superintendents make? assistance superintendents?
In marysville we have to pay $150 for all extra curricular activities! no discounts for more than one team played in a season, no family discounts, no yearly cap on how much you will spend on play to pay! now think about this if big walnut pays the same then a team of 25 kids will net the school $3750.... that is just one program and let me tell you each sport team has at least 30 kids on it!(schools don't like cutting players because they don't make as much money).
STOP MAKING SCHOOL A TESTING CENTER!!!! these kids deserve a well rounded education not just the test material!
You want us to pass levy's??? then give our kids something in return....
Not only do they charge you for your child to play, they hit you up at the gate to watch them play.
Bob

United States

#8 Sep 9, 2010
How exactly do you need more money if the school had the money at some point in time? Doesn't the increase in attendance equal an increase in tax revenue per kid that's going? Was it just not set right in the first place? At least explain why the budget was so wrong if you're going to ask for money for core programs.
Revenue declined

United States

#9 Sep 9, 2010
Thank you for the question, Bob.

Short answer: Revenue declined.

Property values declined which translated to less property tax revenue.

Incomes declined which translated to less income taxes coming in.

And, to top it off, the state began to reduce it's funding to the school district at the same time as the other declines in revenue.

Big Walnut is not alone in this. Many districts have already held levies or will be holding levies. One difference is that Big Walnut's levy is for a fixed period of time (5 years).
TeaPartyTYme

United States

#10 Sep 9, 2010
Sorry no new taxes during the Obama depression. Stimulus caused high unemployment. Make due with what you have. Slam dunk NO. Don't even put on ballet - waste of time to even ask.
TeaPartyTYme

United States

#11 Sep 9, 2010
Uncle Bob wrote:
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Not only do they charge you for your child to play, they hit you up at the gate to watch them play.
What I'm sick of is parents with their hands out. Let the parents 100% fund all extracurricular activities. Taxes are for teaching reading, writing and math only. The rest is extra to be paid by parents who use the service.
Time is up

Groveport, OH

#12 Sep 9, 2010
teresa wrote:
Dispatch did it again. Wiped out comments on previous identical story. Why do they play these games? Why not just do away with comments altogether? Be sure and visit the web site of the guy who is offering info. about this levy. You won't get the truth from the board or the school employees. All the Dispatch will do is promote higher taxes and more government control. That's their job.
Are you kidding? The Dispatch is so much into anti-school levies and unions that they relish having everyone get stirred up over the same articles over and over. They are as conservative as any paper around.
north of 270

Columbus, OH

#13 Sep 9, 2010
Big Walnut does have pay to play your getting off easy in Marysville. BW is $300 per sport and no family cap.
Stained blue dress

Dublin, OH

#14 Sep 9, 2010
Shut IT DOWN wrote:
Take the sports out of the schools completely. Run them on a separate and privately funded budget. That takes the politics out of it and saves taxpayers a ton of money. It has gotten out of hand and people can't afford it anymore.
Most good athletes play at the club level anyway anymore. Things have really changed since I was in high school.

However, I don't think this is fair for other kids who maybe aren't as competitive as others. They should be able to play on a team as well! You learn just as many life skills being on a team as in the classroom!
Stained blue dress

Dublin, OH

#15 Sep 9, 2010
Marysville MOM wrote:
You know I am really sick of school districts playing these scare tactics with our children. They take away everything that makes school enjoyable and of course keeps everything that will allow kids to work harder on the state tests!!!!
Has anyone looked into how much the superintendents make? assistance superintendents?
In marysville we have to pay $150 for all extra curricular activities! no discounts for more than one team played in a season, no family discounts, no yearly cap on how much you will spend on play to pay! now think about this if big walnut pays the same then a team of 25 kids will net the school $3750.... that is just one program and let me tell you each sport team has at least 30 kids on it!(schools don't like cutting players because they don't make as much money).
STOP MAKING SCHOOL A TESTING CENTER!!!! these kids deserve a well rounded education not just the test material!
You want us to pass levy's??? then give our kids something in return....
Maybe you should check out some private schools! Then you don't have to worry about this so much! We have some very good private schools in Columbus, not so far if you hit 33. We don't have levy's!
Makemwork

Groveport, OH

#16 Sep 9, 2010
Bob wrote:
How exactly do you need more money if the school had the money at some point in time? Doesn't the increase in attendance equal an increase in tax revenue per kid that's going? Was it just not set right in the first place? At least explain why the budget was so wrong if you're going to ask for money for core programs.
Because all school budgets are based upon two flawed concepts: 1) Home values will always rise thus increasing tax revenue - 2) Private sector personal incomes will continually rise. It would have been hard for anyone to forecast both happening extremely quickly in the past few years.

The big difference between private business sector and the public sector - schools and government- is that private business can adapt very quickly to the market based on a 5 year, 1 year or even a quarterly basis. Schools and government that are heavily unionized do not have this flexibility due to fixed costs and contracts. Most schools districts are handcuffed on what/who they can & can not cut due to these contracts. School boards negotiating current contracts would be fouls to guarantee anything over a year. Too many variables in the game right now. Ohio is a "right to work" state. Why not make it that way for all Ohioans?
Just a thought

New York, NY

#17 Sep 9, 2010
I know JD Barone, good guy.
Old Timer

AOL

#18 Sep 9, 2010
Stained blue dress wrote:
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Maybe you should check out some private schools! Then you don't have to worry about this so much! We have some very good private schools in Columbus, not so far if you hit 33. We don't have levy's!
What they do have, at least after talking to a headmaster of a school we competed against in a tournament game, was a $16,000 tuition bill, and a $600 participation fee (mostly paid for by "boosters", i.e. private school "taxpayers".

These programs some peple rant about are less than 1% of a total budget, and these programs serve to bring community together, the exception being the "ranters".

Voters in most districts care about how ell their children are prepared for future academic success, and if their children can be on a competitive sports team or band, or debate club, or any other extra-curricular activity......that is the essence of our school systems..the well-rounded student, unlike us sedentary "well-rounded" people who could use a bit more exercise.
Old Timer

AOL

#19 Sep 9, 2010
Stained blue dress wrote:
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Most good athletes play at the club level anyway anymore. Things have really changed since I was in high school.
However, I don't think this is fair for other kids who maybe aren't as competitive as others. They should be able to play on a team as well! You learn just as many life skills being on a team as in the classroom!
Our club players are good athletically, but are academically ineligible....
vote no

United States

#20 Sep 9, 2010
nuff said
Paula Race

Mount Gilead, OH

#21 Sep 9, 2010
Since Ohio is now going to get the Race to the Top federal funds that were going to go to New Jersey, is there any way to know how much, if any, will go to Big Walnut? If BW is going to receive funds, will there be enough to offset any of the funds being requested in the levy?
John

New York, NY

#22 Sep 9, 2010
"That's what Big Walnut Assistant Superintendent Gary Barber said he saw happen in his home district, South-Western City Schools, after a series of failed levy attempts. "
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There in lies the problem right there. "Assistant Superintendent". Why does Mazzi need an assistant? Too many bloated administrative salaries and the building of a new elementary school that wasn't needed is why this school district is having financial problems.

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