If you have a child at Sunbright Scho...
ABCD

Lancing, TN

#62 Sep 4, 2012
know it all wrote:
Theres another person that works for Sunbright that was fired from Morgan Co head start a few years ago for abuse of a child.She restrained the child for to long by his arm and left marks but shes currently working for Sunbright school! I think thats crazy! Fired from one school she should NOT ever be allowed to aide in another one!
No she did not! It was my son so I know this situation very well. The headstart would like everyone to believe this is what happened that here is the truth.
He was 3 yrs old, she was walking him to time out and he just fell in the floor like most kids will. She eased him back into standing position and made him go on to time out. The video plainly shows this! Well where the bruises came in, they had walked to a field trip day before. My son had tried to run across the road. The teacher that day had squeezed his wrist area to keep him from running into street till he could be calmed down. Well when the headstart showed me pictures they had taken of his bruised arm, I told them then that was the incorrect arm from the video tape of the teacher taking him to timeout. And another teacher had already explained how he got the ones from walking on field trip.
So I just could not read your statement without correcting them! She won a lawsuit and proved that she didn't do that. That is why they granted her to be able to work for kids again!
Curious

Huntsville, TN

#63 Sep 5, 2012
What happened last night at the meeting? I wonder if they will reinstate her. I wonder if it will be swept under the rug. I wish we knew something. Has the incompetent teacher been mentioned as far as dismissal?
Unknown

Huntsville, TN

#64 Sep 5, 2012
Why has all activity stopped on this matter? Does no one know what is going on? Are they keeping the principal or not?
JDY

Oak Ridge, TN

#65 Sep 5, 2012
Unknown wrote:
Why has all activity stopped on this matter? Does no one know what is going on? Are they keeping the principal or not?
Yes, lets believe what we read on Topix. Brilliant ideology. Because we all know everyone on Topix is an accurate source of information. How about you call the school board? But I suppose that would be inconvenient, huh?
Fly On The Wall

Prairie, MS

#66 Sep 6, 2012
Before the “rumor mill” gets grinding I just want to say I am NOT the principal, NOT the teacher or anyone else that is employed at the school. I have a grandson that goes to school there and that’s all.

I have been sitting back reading these topics on this case since it first started and all I can do is shake my head at some of the ignorance, on both sides of the spectrum. Do you agree on paddling? Do you not agree on paddling? Shouldn’t this teacher and principal be fired? Shouldn’t they be charged with child abuse? Shouldn’t we boycott the school? Shouldn’t we, shouldn’t we, shouldn’t we?

Then there are the bruises that were on this child’s bottom. Did the parent(s) sign or did they not sign a form for paddling or not paddling their child? If they sent that child to school with the knowledge that the child would be paddled for bad behavior, then that should be the end of it. I don’t know about anyone else but I bruise like a peach whenever I bump anything. I can hit the doorknob wrong with my hand and have a bruise come up immediately. Also, any time that I have spanked my children they have gotten bruises but that doesn’t mean that I have “beaten” them. And, some of the bruising on that child looked older than others…that tells me that not all of it was caused by the paddling at school. Could it possibly be abuse at home? Or from his karate practice? Or from falling off a bike? Or falling out of a tree? Many possibilities.

Yes…there ARE two sides to every story. In this case, there are several stories. Like the other children that this “poor little boy” was tormenting. He was throwing the crayons and rocks at other children, too not just the ground. He was probably asked several times not to do this but continued to do so, even after being paddled once. So, I would ask each of you that is screaming about this issue…Would you be defending what is going on if it was YOUR child that this child was throwing rocks and crayons at and being mean to? I think not. I think if this child had not been paddled and only given a “good talking to,” most of you parents would be at the school asking why he wasn’t paddled and why your children weren’t being protected from a bully. Am I right???

Yes, he probably has a bad home life and does not get the correct discipline or attention there. So, that puts the extra responsibility onto the teacher and school. So when a teacher has to take time out from teaching to calm down an unruly child, it takes away from our children’s education.

Now, as for everyone agreeing that the parents should sue and that the teacher and principal should be fired…What is this teaching that unruly child? It is teaching him that bad behavior gets rewarded. If this family is awarded money for this and gets their way, it is going to ruin that child. He will continue to have the bad behavior and he will most likely eventually end up at Morgan County Regional.

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Fly On The Wall

Prairie, MS

#67 Sep 6, 2012
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In my experience with children and behavior, a child that is unruly, bullying and abusive is a direct result of poor parenting at home. Most children who have this type behavior only do so for the attention. They do badness, they get the attention they are so desperately craving….whether it is bad attention or good attention, they have succeeded in getting it. And, if he could get attention that way once, he’s going to continue to do so time and time again unless it is properly addressed.

I think that instead of everyone arguing, pointing fingers and blame, everyone, including the parent(s) suing, should be more concerned about the child needing help and correcting his behavior before it gets too out of control. Also, maybe he needs to be removed from his negative influences at home. I’ll bet if you talked to the daughter she could enlighten everyone on what it’s really like at home. And, one major question for me is, why is the DAUGHTER doing most of the fighting for this child? Is she the one actually trying to rear him? I think it goes much deeper than just a couple of bruises from a paddling. It seems to me like a desperate cry for help for both of those kids. Someone needs to get to the REAL root of the problem before it’s too late.
whocares

Harriman, TN

#68 Sep 6, 2012
Have my babies? plz
Right

Lancing, TN

#69 Sep 6, 2012
Well I have to say if he did get the bruises then I'll say I'm sorry. But I find it REALLY hard to believe that a paddling would causes bruises like that! But I don't think a 5or 6 yr old should get paddled either!! These bruises looked like they were on his back. So I hope no one would be paddling him on his back!!! I hope it is seriously looked into better!
dont matter

Winfield, TN

#70 Sep 6, 2012
Fly On The Wall wrote:
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In my experience with children and behavior, a child that is unruly, bullying and abusive is a direct result of poor parenting at home. Most children who have this type behavior only do so for the attention. They do badness, they get the attention they are so desperately craving….whether it is bad attention or good attention, they have succeeded in getting it. And, if he could get attention that way once, he’s going to continue to do so time and time again unless it is properly addressed.
I think that instead of everyone arguing, pointing fingers and blame, everyone, including the parent(s) suing, should be more concerned about the child needing help and correcting his behavior before it gets too out of control. Also, maybe he needs to be removed from his negative influences at home. I’ll bet if you talked to the daughter she could enlighten everyone on what it’s really like at home. And, one major question for me is, why is the DAUGHTER doing most of the fighting for this child? Is she the one actually trying to rear him? I think it goes much deeper than just a couple of bruises from a paddling. It seems to me like a desperate cry for help for both of those kids. Someone needs to get to the REAL root of the problem before it’s too late.
are you serious? you dont know his parents to be alledging child abuse, and a paddling is one thing, he didnt need that big of a paddling for five years old. get real
REDNECK REBEL

Huntsville, TN

#71 Sep 6, 2012
like dont matter said no matter wht the child done he didnt not deserve to be paddled like that and u wouldnt be so easy if it was one of ur childern or granchildern there fly on the wall maybe u need one like it urself
Fly On The Wall

Prairie, MS

#72 Sep 6, 2012
Now….before I get “slammed” by everyone else saying that I am heartless or taking sides or accusing someone of anything…..whether it be the principal or the parents. I am NOT, on any account. These are my own thoughts just like everyone else in these forums.

I know some of you are saying,“she must not have any children” or “how can she be so heartless?” or “she has no clue,“ etc., etc. I do have children, I do have a heart and I do have a clue. I have worked in the school systems myself in Knox County. Being a teacher or principal is no easy job and they are accused of things on a daily basis. I am also a mother and grandmother who has been on the other side of this as well.

From my own experience: As a 6-year-old first grader, I was paddled in school. Sunbright school to be exact. But only once. I learned my lesson after that and I DESERVED the paddling to begin with because I was being cruel to another child. My children, too were paddled in school and at home for inappropriate behavior. And, yes, they had bruises afterward. Their bottoms are going to bruise. They were however, loved very much and given positive attention as well because there has to be a balance.

For those who think I am “cruel” or “clueless,“ if this principal actually DID cause some type of bodily injuries, other than a few bruises, then YES, she should be punished accordingly. Also, if the bruising on the child’s BACK were caused from this, then YES by all means she should be punished accordingly. If the teacher involved had anything to do with ACTUAL abuse or had knowledge of the same, then YES, he/she should be punished too. But GET ALL THE FACTS from all aspects FIRST!! What ever happened to “judge not lest ye be judged?” and “innocent until proven guilty?” Imagine yourselves in the shoes of EVERYONE involved….the principal, the child, the teacher, the parent….have an open mind for crying out loud.

And for those that are wondering….maybe the reason that the principal or the teacher involved are not saying anything to defend themselves is because they are being smart. People will wickedly twist things that someone says. I have seen that a lot. Especially on these forums.

But all of you on here that are screaming this and that and passing judgment on EITHER side don’t need to say anything negative to me…I am not judging, nor taking sides, nor accusing anyone of anything on either side of this. I am simply an observer voicing my “freedom of speech.” Or have we lost that right, too?
ummmm

Pine Knot, KY

#73 Sep 6, 2012
This is for fly on the wall. Suppose this was your grandson that was paddled like this. Would you still feel the same. If a paddling leaves a burise it is abuse plain and simply. I don't care what you say. No child deserves this. By the way were you their to know for sure this child was throwing crayons and rocks at the other kids and not the ground. Everything i have read said the rock was thrown on the ground not at the other children.
agree

Crossville, TN

#74 Sep 7, 2012
Right wrote:
Well I have to say if he did get the bruises then I'll say I'm sorry. But I find it REALLY hard to believe that a paddling would causes bruises like that! But I don't think a 5or 6 yr old should get paddled either!! These bruises looked like they were on his back. So I hope no one would be paddling him on his back!!! I hope it is seriously looked into better!
Yes it must be looked into.The person that did this to the little boy should go to jail.I would like to know if he gets spanked at home?I hope the truth comes out,it's not that I don't believe it happened, but who and where??? The pictures don't match with the story.
no way

Pine Knot, KY

#75 Sep 7, 2012
Children shouldnt be paddled by anyone other than parents, . It really shocks me that a teacher couldnt handle a five year old throwing crayons. I hope this shakes up everyone thats employed at Sunbright School. Parents send thier children to school for an education not a beating.
love one another

Winfield, TN

#76 Sep 7, 2012
agree wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it must be looked into.The person that did this to the little boy should go to jail.I would like to know if he gets spanked at home?I hope the truth comes out,it's not that I don't believe it happened, but who and where??? The pictures don't match with the story.
oh horse poop... everyone wants to believe its the parents, there has been many people i know that have had bad experiences going on in this school for a long time, myself included. clean house at that school and get rid of the burn out teachers...and other staff
ummmm

Pine Knot, KY

#77 Sep 8, 2012
love one another wrote:
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oh horse poop... everyone wants to believe its the parents, there has been many people i know that have had bad experiences going on in this school for a long time, myself included. clean house at that school and get rid of the burn out teachers...and other staff
I agree. They need to clean house at sunbright. I have had several bad experiences up their my self.
sue

Deer Lodge, TN

#78 Sep 8, 2012
I thought they had to be a witness when someone was paddled. Who was the witness and why didn't they say something. I would have hated to stand there and watch a little child be done this way. Why did they not say you are hitting him too hard.
Agreed

Huntsville, TN

#79 Sep 8, 2012
I also have kids that go to sunbright and I totally agree that this principal went too far with this situation. But there are some great teachers and people at sunbright school that really care about the kids and their education, I don't think that whole school be on here calling for a cleaning of the house over one bad administrator. As for the problems you had at that school, do you think that their administrator might have had something to do with it? My children still attend sunbright and will continue to do so. I hope and pray that they get a new administrator that is caring, understanding, fair, but also firm. I do feel that discipline is very important and must be present for learning to occur, I just feel in this situation it was taking to a whole new level. Paddling is a good tool and is needed as a last resort, but this went too far. Maybe there is a person in the school qualified for the job maybe not. But whoever it is needs to be a loving and kind and not walk around like they are better than everyone else and that the parents aren't welcome. Prior to her arrival at sunbright I was at the school a lot to volunteer and help out in anyway that I could after she arrived, parent involvement wasn't encouraged or even allowed at times. It was terrible. There was a coldness in that school.
Lea

Wartburg, TN

#80 Sep 12, 2012
They are some good teachers at Sunbright but there are also some pill heads and ho's but they are mainly in non-teaching lesser jobs.
Screech

Rockwood, TN

#81 Sep 12, 2012
sue wrote:
I thought they had to be a witness when someone was paddled. Who was the witness and why didn't they say something. I would have hated to stand there and watch a little child be done this way. Why did they not say you are hitting him too hard.
It's most likely because the bruises were not from the paddling and because of something else. Does anyone seriously think a teacher is going to paddle and miss that badly, so badly the hit his back and lower thigh. Seriously? Also the other poster is correct, you can tell by the picture that the bruises are made on different days due to the brown texture in color which indicates aging of the bruise.

If a teacher, witnessed another teacher doing that, do you not think they would intervene? Also, do you think a teacher is so stupid, that they would knowingly do something like that on purpose knowing they are going to get caught.

This whole case is the product of the desire for monetary gains. It's nothing more. When a child is involved, no matter the case or situation, it always creates the perfect scheme for a fake lawsuit. Everyone will immediately jump to the witch hunt without questioning factual evidence. People are like drones, they go with the flow instead of making a decision based on evidence themselves. Nobody thinks for themselves anymore.

I could just as easily kick an old lady and say the mayor did it. Just because the statement was placed into circulation, people would believe it. They would attack the mayor and because there was a mark left on an elderly lady, no one would ever question otherwise and go straight to the witch hunt.

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