Insane Clown Posse's Juggalos Aren't a Gang - Just Punk Kids

[troy luginbill]

bob, what do you do for your community?

Part of the problem is people who are not Juggalos sit around drinking coke with whiskey, and watching oprah and dr. phil all day.

Is that how you want to help your world?

[FBTMA]

The music part of the whole thing is fine. The cult "I'm a hardass juggalo" BS is what I have a problem with. Just because someone listens to a specific band doesn't mean you have to make an entire lifestyle of crime and hatred out of it. Thats why I think "Juggalos" are retarded. Make a GOOD arguement and maybe I'll change my views but telling me I better watch my back and making threats is exactly why people have this idea. Smarten up

[troy luginbill]

FBTMA-I wholeheartedly concur. It is nice to see a poster for or against on this board that doesn't just swear to get their point across.

I don't understand why Juggalso have to be a Juggalo to love their family. Why ICP or psycopathic records has to be the one to tell them what to do. A good idea is a good idea regardless of who comes up with it. Nobody owns an idea. I have been told numerous times that a Christian is only a christian if they love others because christ told them to. Why? Why can't I be nice and help others just because it is the right thing to do?

[Mercury]

Damn. All this conflict over the bands ICP, Twitid, Dark Lotus, etc. Is just plain childish. Banning their brand names is ridiculous, so what some people want to make a gang out of it and some people are just hardcore fans of the music. It's so prejudistic and judging when someone does something wrong and they happen to like ICP or Blaze or something they immediately jump on how the band is horrible. But when someone does soemthing wrong and they listen to ohh something like The Black Eyed Peas or what not it isnt blamed on that music. People just have it set in their heads that people who express their selves differently are bad. You guys are all so fussy perhps let us all live a little without being judged. MMFCL >XD

[crazy juggalo 73]

before you start saying icp juggalos dont do anything for there community learn some factss about us before you f*cking judge stupid f*cker.

troy luginbill wrote:

"When you're out in public at the and such, stop being such dipshits."
Yeah, like rape, murder, assault, drug dealing, theft, arson, vandalism......
When will ICP and the juggalos do something valuable for their community?
Every time you come here or any other juggalo forum and type in a response like " we is a family" while others commit crimes in your name you will have driven one more wedge between you and the rest of the world. "We is a family" is not an excuse-it is only bad grammar.
It is not the victims fault juggalos commit crime. Many have never heard of ICP before, they have never marginalized you by saying "oooooo.....he must be a criminal 'cause he wears an ICP shirt lets treat him like one." That happens AFTER one of you commits a crime or acts like a dipshit. The answer. STOP acting like dipshits, and ACT like responsible people.

[Fix]

Ok, I'm sorry, but can any of you guys who claim to be juggalos, and juggalettes give a real educated answer as to what it means to be one? Seriously, I swarmed thru several threads and people asked this same question, and none of you have yet to answer one with other than, we's family... Then whats human kind. family right? so what makes you guys any differnt, the fact we paint our faces? What really seperates you guys from gangs? Can you watch for every juggalo and ette?

I'm not saying its fair to point out all juggalos and ettes as gang members or criminals... I mean thats saying they every black person is a rapist, every white person is a drug dealer, every asian is a killer... just because some peopl from those races have done such things... But then again, how can you not claim to be a gang when you don't do anything to prove other wise... Look my face is painted right now as a clown black and white... I'm not a huge ICP fan, in fact I don't have an ICP song or CD in my entire house. OMG!!!! Yeah... closest thing i got is tech 9... I don't claim to be an ICP juggalo because well, I'm not...

But it seems I been doing more good for your family so to speak than many of you who claim to be hardcore family have. I help youth in the daily bases with gang problems, drug problems, relationship problems, family problems you name it... I also do constant fund raisers for my own group, that consist of car clubs, bike clubs, skateboard teams, BMX, paintball, snow boarding, surfing, and so on... we all work together doing legit fund raisers, to bring in funds to help each member succeed at what ever it is he or she wants... need parts to repair your car, we raise the money for the parts, not only that, we do the labor, if we can't do it, we raise the money to pay some one to do it. you need to enter a skateboard comp, we got you covered, you need help with your family, here you go...

We also put on shows and events to educate the public about us, and the activities we do... we have dance crews, musicians of all sorts, cars and bikes of show quality. and plenty of fun...

we also help our community in many ways...

I think thats the kinda image you guys need to start working for... or are you to hardcore... one, we should stop complaing about what other people think, and instead work to change the point of view of these people...

[troy luginbill]

crazy juggalo 73. Post up some links. I could find no examples of Juggalo or ICP charity.

Fix-Yes say it across the boards. If more people say this then perhaps Juggalos will listen and a proud new community that helps people.

To the many Juggalos out there. I am not saying you shouldn't listen to your music. You should be passionate about your music, but instead of letting that passion rule you and letting a couple of guys make some cash off of you you should focus that for good. Of course Joe and Joey don't make any money off of charity. Wether yours or theirs.

You claim family, love, personal responsibility for your goodness. Now get out there and DO IT!

[EMALO]

wtf man im a juggalo and im down with the hatchet for about two years now and we airnt a gang yo can say that but we still cool with some people you know well i gtg WHOOP! WHOOP! JUGGALOS

MMFWCL

[troy luginbill]

EMALO,

I am trying not to respond to posts like this. But I have to say that this kind of post in a discussion forum really does nothing to add to your Family. It only brings it down. You sound like a cultist, not a gang member.

I asked a question-where are examples of Juggalos doing good for their world. Why should anyone care about you other than to treat you like a gang because they are scared of you?

I don't give a rats ass about you being down with the hatchet for 2 let alone 200 years. That means nothing. If you think it does-if any of you think that any amount of time "believing" or "being" determines your validity or capability then you are in worse than a gang. You are in a union. There is no such thing as seniority in wisdom.

[TheSpinOnFox]

Juggaulows are a GANG.
They are a group of outcast kids that were left behind from the socail scene so they started their own GANG and paint their faces to cover thier ugly mugs.

But don't blame them, it's mostly thier alcohal and drug abusive parents that should be held responsible for what their kids have turned into.

[NoamChimpsky]

troy luginbill wrote:

EMALO,
I am trying not to respond to posts like this. But I have to say that this kind of post in a discussion forum really does nothing to add to your Family. It only brings it down. You sound like a cultist, not a gang member.
I asked a question-where are examples of Juggalos doing good for their world. Why should anyone care about you other than to treat you like a gang because they are scared of you?
I don't give a rats ass about you being down with the hatchet for 2 let alone 200 years. That means nothing. If you think it does-if any of you think that any amount of time "believing" or "being" determines your validity or capability then you are in worse than a gang. You are in a union. There is no such thing as seniority in wisdom.

A union is worse than a gang? I thought the posts by the Insane Clown Pussy fans were the height of stupidity, but you actually managed to top them in the stupid department with that statement. You were even making such good points up until that point. Although I will say, I'll bet none of these "jigalo" losers even know what a union is. Sadly, you don't seem to either.

[troy luginbill]

naom, a union is a group of laborers organized for the purposes of protecting the rights of said laborers through various legal and peaceful protest methods. This is the good part of a union. The bad part is that unions also protect outdated notions such as seniority-which is what was addressed in my post. the concept of seniority is simple. If you have been there the longest you get to be top dog regardless of skills. It has nothing to do with capability, intelligence level, or actual work knowledge.

I will certainly apologize for lumping all unions into one big pot. Not all unions support the concept of seniority. But if they do they are a detriment and not a help both to their members and the company they work for. As such they are worse than a gang because they are fucking over regular people in regular lives who don't need nor want to be fucked over. Luckily gangs tend to mainly do stupid things to themselves and some few victims that are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Bad union decisions affect alot more people than gangs do. So yes they can be worse than gangs-not more violent, but certainly have a greater area of effect.

I will be the first to admit that the concept of a union is a good thing, but please don't tell me that all unions are good things just because they are unions.

Now lets see you jump in and make a cogent point about gangs for all those Juggalos out there.

[Oshafta]

EMALO wrote:

wtf man im a juggalo and im down with the hatchet for about two years now and we airnt a gang yo can say that but we still cool with some people you know well i gtg WHOOP! WHOOP! JUGGALOS
MMFWCL

What a moron. I bet you have 17 gold chains and live on welfare.

[Juggalo Zero]

I think the juggalo Community is going courrpt. when insane clown posse said the end of time will consume us all he didn't mean the world he ment the juggalo world. so many clowns are falling because of idiot mistakes they are making. when need to stop attacking people and harassing people. were digging our own grave.

who is the master of the joker cards? we are we choose our deisity and how it will end.

[troy luginbill]

Juggalo zero, thanks for getting this back on track with something to say to the point.

What can other Juggalos do to keep the community from going corrupt?

I don't agree with the actions of many Juggalos, nor do I agree with some of the philosophies presented by joe and joey, but I do agree with the personal responsibility represented in the art. You guys have an opportunity here and now to fight for what you believe in (not by bashin the haters-that is not what I am talking about). To make your own destiny, and if being a Juggalo is a good thing, then to share it with others. To do that though you guys have to work at it and it will not be easy. But damn! you are the youth of the world. It is up to you to change tomorrow not the fogies who built the world you live in. They don't care what your world looks like, they will be dead by the time you get to it.

[PhxJosh]

What a bunch of retards, people actually like this band?

[NunyoBidnez]

Wouldn't be great to live back in the time where you could actually shoot people like this and nothing would be done against you?
Idiocracy is alive and well in these United States. Just think, these brain dead idiots are the leaders of tomorrow.

We are so screwed.

[troy luginbill]

nunyobidnez, luckily none of these guys want to be community leaders. They are content to sit back, let you screw their dog, watch their house burn down, and starve to death just as long as you don't drink their faygo or tell them they cannot wear an ICP shirt.

You know, luckily the Juggalos cannot really get enough of anything to together to really be a threat. They posture, and every now and then commit a crime, but really all they are are a bunch of kids whose parents told them to clean their room and never said please so they feel disenfranchised, marginalized, disaffected, etc.

[Mizz_JuGALETE]

iM A JUGGALETTE AND I DO SUPPORT MY FAMILY BUT THEY GET OUT OF HAND ALOT EVERY TIME WE MOVE WE HAVE TO STOP AND ARGUE B/C THEY DONT LIKE HOW SOMEONES LOOKIN AT THEM NO IM NOT BEING TO FACED IM JUST SAYIN GUYS CALM DOWN

[bumblebootwiggy]

troy luginbill wrote:

"When you're out in public at the and such, stop being such dipshits."
Yeah, like rape, murder, assault, drug dealing, theft, arson, vandalism......
When will ICP and the juggalos do something valuable for their community?
Every time you come here or any other juggalo forum and type in a response like " we is a family" while others commit crimes in your name you will have driven one more wedge between you and the rest of the world. "We is a family" is not an excuse-it is only bad grammar.
It is not the victims fault juggalos commit crime. Many have never heard of ICP before, they have never marginalized you by saying "oooooo.....he must be a criminal 'cause he wears an ICP shirt lets treat him like one." That happens AFTER one of you commits a crime or acts like a dipshit. The answer. STOP acting like dipshits, and ACT like responsible people.

alright listen u dont no crap it pisses me off when ppl that dont no crap bout us juggalos and lettes rele u need to stop dissin on us just cuz some ppl r being stupid dont mean there representing the whole family were all individuals being a juggalo or lette is all about being your self and not giving a fuck what ppl think. we love the music by psycopathic records and we follow what there music has to do with cuz they rele are a pretty good influence if u rele no there music so yea pls just shut your fuckin faces, ppl that like tlking shit. cuz rele i dont c y u care u cant controll an individual only ur self so plz do controll ur self and stop dissin on us!!!1