pothead

United States

#21 Mar 23, 2010
Where can I join I would love to be in a club.
Ashamed

United States

#22 Mar 23, 2010
No its more like uninformed people stick thier head in the sand and hide from thr realitys of this world. I dont have anything aginst bikers. The HOG group that rides and paryies together and ABATE are motorcycle clubs that are made of good people. The Avengers are part of the 1%er gangs that are involved in criminal activities. Geeze people there is a difference open your eyes and see.

Here is a federal inditement of a bunch of these guys read it for your self. Most of these are WV Avengers, some national Pagans.

http://www.wvgazette.com/mediafiles/document/...
NOT ashamed wrote:
Well it looks like one scared, misinformed person (Ashamed - Callaway, VA) has once more managed to spread their ignorance and fear via the internet. I guess I would be ashamed too if my only sourse of entertainment was to go online and make up stories about who was "subordinate" to whom.
You are right about one thing though. Not all bikers are nice guys. Just like not all lawyers are good guys, and not all resturant owners are nice guys and not all... well you get the idea.
Ashamed

United States

#23 Mar 23, 2010
CHARLESTON, W.Va.-- An indictment charging 55 members of the Pagans motorcycle gang with violent crimes ranging from robbery and extortion to conspiracy to commit murder was unsealed today by federal officials.

The 44-count indictment names Pagan gang members from eight states, including eight from New Jersey. The others are West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, Delaware and Florida.

Five Pagan officers, including the national president, David Keith Barbeito, also known as "Bart," of Myersville, Md., and the national vice president, Floyd B. Moore, also known as "Jesse" and "Diamond Jesse," of St. Albans, W.Va. were charged with Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations ("RICO") violations, conspiracy to commit RICO, and other charges.

The indictment, handed up Thursday, alleges that Pagan members and associates have engaged in racketeering activities since March 2003. That month, Pagan gang members, at the direction of Moore, traveled to Huntington, W.Va., and restrained and beat a member of a rival motorcycle gang, the Road Disciples, in an attempt to extract information from the victim in order to find the gang’s president, according to the indictment.

Moore ordered the Pagan members to find the Road Disciples president to collect money and to threaten to shut the gang down if the president failed to comply with Moore’s orders.

The indictment also alleges that in September 2005, Moore and other Pagan members and associates conspired with a prison guard to kill an inmate suspected of cooperating with law enforcement. Moore also ordered another Pagan member to commit a murder to help out the president of a local chapter of the Avengers motorcycle club, according to the indictment.

"As alleged in the indictment, members and associates of this motorcycle gang have engaged in numerous violent crimes in an attempt to maintain control over other motorcycle gangs and clubs throughout the country," Charles T. Miller, the U.S. attorney for the southern district of West Virginia, said in a statement. "Collaboration between the federal, state and local agencies that resulted in today’s indictment signals our shared, unrelenting commitment to combat organized crime."

The indictment was the result of a multi-jurisdictional effort that included the U.S. Attorneys Offices in West Virginia and Pittsburgh, the FBI, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Louisville, Ky.

The suspects range from 29 to 69 years old. Eight of the 55 have New Jersey addresses. They are Rocco J. Boyd, 48, of Little Ferry; Sergio Velez Cuevas, 69, of Linden; Christopher T. Brunner, 42, of Manahawkin; Joseph Frank Cotton, 59, of Pemberton; Thomas William Connolly, 60, of Matawan; Stephen G. Dunn Jr., 33, of Camden; Stephen G. Hoffmann, 58, of Landing, and Daniel J. Reilly, 57, of Egg Harbor Township.

If convicted, the suspects face prison terms ranging from three to 20 years and fines of up to $1 million.
Ashamed

United States

#24 Mar 23, 2010
No not scared, informed and educated on the subject, its more like uninformed people stick their head in the sand and hide from the reality’s of this world. I don’t have anything against bikers. The HOG group that rides and parties together and ABATE are motorcycle clubs that are made of good people. The Avengers and Pagans are part of the 1%er gangs that are involved in criminal activities. Geeze people there is a difference open your eyes and see.

Here is a federal indictment of a bunch of these guys read it for your self. Most of these are WV Avengers, some national Pagans.

www.wvgazette.com/mediafiles/document/2009/10...
NOT ashamed wrote:
Well it looks like one scared, misinformed person (Ashamed - Callaway, VA) has once more managed to spread their ignorance and fear via the internet. I guess I would be ashamed too if my only sourse of entertainment was to go online and make up stories about who was "subordinate" to whom.
You are right about one thing though. Not all bikers are nice guys. Just like not all lawyers are good guys, and not all resturant owners are nice guys and not all... well you get the idea.
NOT ashamed wrote:
Well it looks like one scared, misinformed person (Ashamed - Callaway, VA) has once more managed to spread their ignorance and fear via the internet. I guess I would be ashamed too if my only sourse of entertainment was to go online and make up stories about who was "subordinate" to whom.
You are right about one thing though. Not all bikers are nice guys. Just like not all lawyers are good guys, and not all resturant owners are nice guys and not all... well you get the idea.
Ashamed

United States

#25 Mar 23, 2010
CLEVELAND (AP)-- Sixteen members of a motorcycle gang were arrested Tuesday on charges of racketeering, drug trafficking, illegal gambling and stealing cars and motorcycles, the FBI said.

The arrests came after a 2{-year undercover investigation by a Lake County Sheriff's deputy who infiltrated the Elyria chapter of the Avengers Motorcycle Club, a national group. The bust was coordinated by the Lorain County Drug Task Force and the Cleveland division of the FBI.

Members of the motorcycle gang conducted illegal activities in Ohio, Michigan, West Virginia, Indiana and Illinois, according to a 42-page indictment.

"This was quite a large operation," said FBI spokesman Robert Hawk. "It means a lot in terms of money gleaned from the community and the heartache caused for the citizens of northeast Ohio."

The 16 appeared in court Tuesday before U.S. Magistrate Nancy Vecchiarelli. Some of the defendants were released on bond while others were held without bond, said a court spokeswoman who declined to give her name or any other details about the hearing.

All of the defendants face up to 20 years in prison. The indictment seeks the forfeiture of several properties, including AMC's clubhouse.

The undercover sheriff's deputy became an AMC member and asked the club in June 1997, to provide protection for him and undercover FBI agents during purported drug transactions in exchange for money.

Undercover agents also bought Harley Davidson motorcycles, cars and personal water crafts stolen by AMC members, according to the indictment. Gang members also were accused of manufacturing and attempting to distribute illegal drugs, operating illegal gambling machines and illegally possessing firearms.

In June 1997, four members discusssed collecting $25,000 from a man by putting the "fear of God in him," threatening him with a baseball bat and breaking his legs if he did not pay, the indictment said.

The 29-count indictment was issued May 26 against Tom S. Hakaim, 40, of Lorain; Michael T. Cristarella, 43, of Lorain; Howard D. Dick, 50, of Milan; Jessie A. Gonzales, 42, of Lorain; Paul R. Jones, 48, of Parma; Ronald E. DeAngelo, 46, of Columbus; Robert A. Diederick, 45, of Elyria; Robert E. Wiley, 39, Elyria; Rodney L. Lester, 46, of Westlake; Wesley A. Ewing, 31, of Norwalk; David W. Settle, 31, of Warren; Wayne E. Fitzgerald, 28, of Windham; Andrew Watkins, 42, of South Amherst; Freddie J. McCray, 50, of Toledo; and Michael Jordan, 41, and Ernest Wiseman, 36, both of St. Albans, W.Va.

Also charged were Gonzales' wife, Annetta S. Mooney, 36, on federal drug trafficking and mail fraud charges and Ewing's wife, Kristie Ewing, 30, on federal drug trafficking charges.

Gonzales and Mooney were accused of selling their 1995 Pontiac Firebird to the undercover agent and reporting it stolen to police to fraudulently collect insurance money.
Ashamed

United States

#26 Mar 23, 2010
Motorcycle gang returning to region

John Caniglia
Plain Dealer Reporter
The Avengers are ready to ride again in Northeast Ohio.

The motorcycle gang, once crippled by undercover police work, has started a chapter in Huron County, west of Lorain County, according to authorities and the gang's Web site.

The move comes six years after 19 members of the gang's Elyria chapter, as well as the national president of the club, were convicted of federal drug and conspiracy charges.

Police say the new chapter also emerges as motorcycle gangs are growing. As thousands of outlaw bikers from the Easy Rider years grow gray, they are being replaced by younger, meaner members.

"They're becoming more organized, more sophisticated and more violent," said Steve Cook, a police detective in Independence, Mo., and a national expert on outlaw motorcycle gangs.

In Toledo, more than 25 members of the Outlaws have been convicted in the last two years of drug and weapons charges. In Indiana, investigators have raided several homes of the Sons of Silence.

Huron County Sheriff Richard Sutherland said his office has information that the club may be operating in a former bar on Ohio 18 in Clarksfield Township, in the eastern part of the county.

It's about eight miles from Lorain County.

The Avengers' national Web site welcomed the new club, but does not list an address or a phone number for it.

Huron County auditor's records show that Howard Dick, a member of the Avengers, bought the former bar for $35,000 in April on a land contract.

Dick, 56, was convicted in 2000 of racketeering and sentenced to 33 months in prison. He could not be reached for comment.

The Avengers have five other clubs in Ohio: in Columbus, Toledo, Tiffin and two in the rural southern part of the state. The club's stronghold has been the Midwest.

Cook, the Missouri gang expert, said the Avengers have a respected name among national biker gangs, as they "refuse to be pushed around by anyone."

The club had been a fixture in Elyria for years. It hated police and its biker enemies, the Iron Coffins.

It saved its greatest disgust for informants, whom members threatened with death.

In 1995, law enforcement officers received a break when a member sold 8 pounds of marijuana to an undercover Lorain County sheriff's deputy.

The member agreed to become an informant and helped an undercover detective join the club, believing he had connections to the criminal underworld.

The Avengers liked the officer so much, they wanted to elect him as a high-ranking officer in the Lorain County group. He refused. Months later, they were arrested.

Those sentenced to prison, like Dick, have been released.
Just great

United States

#27 Mar 24, 2010
I think we are big enough now to welcome Avengers to our community. I will join given the chance. Summersville is growing and a good club like this is welcome.
Buckwheat

Summersville, WV

#28 Mar 24, 2010
Me and Spanky are in the He Man Woman Hater's club.

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Since: Mar 10

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#29 Mar 24, 2010
Buckwheat wrote:
Me and Spanky are in the He Man Woman Hater's club.
Jesus and Al Bundy are in No Ma'am. Jesus still loves his hoes.- Jesus out
lol

Princeton, WV

#30 Mar 24, 2010
i think ppl join gangs of anykind just for the homo erotic thrill of it all
Glass Joe

Brooklyn, NY

#31 Mar 24, 2010
This has now become a forum to post news articles other people have written
SMH employee

United States

#32 Mar 24, 2010
I wil tell anyone that will listen the BOTW are a great bunch of guys. My husband was with them for 26yrs no there not all about drugs if you dont know them dont talk shit about them. Remember that old say dont judge a book by its cover, well just cause they might look a lil rough dont mean that there not good people.Theres good and bad in all groups ,it dont matter what kind it is. How many times do you pick up the paper and read about a priest , school teacher or a parent doing something to a child . So dont put these guys down .
Researcher

Winston Salem, NC

#33 Mar 25, 2010
SMH employee wrote:
I wil tell anyone that will listen the BOTW are a great bunch of guys. My husband was with them for 26yrs no there not all about drugs if you dont know them dont talk shit about them. Remember that old say dont judge a book by its cover, well just cause they might look a lil rough dont mean that there not good people.Theres good and bad in all groups ,it dont matter what kind it is. How many times do you pick up the paper and read about a priest , school teacher or a parent doing something to a child . So dont put these guys down .
I love the last sentence in your thread......you said it all right there, AMEN Sister!!! Ride Safe!!
sorry

Craigsville, WV

#34 Mar 25, 2010
SMH employee wrote:
I wil tell anyone that will listen the BOTW are a great bunch of guys. My husband was with them for 26yrs no there not all about drugs if you dont know them dont talk shit about them. Remember that old say dont judge a book by its cover, well just cause they might look a lil rough dont mean that there not good people.Theres good and bad in all groups ,it dont matter what kind it is. How many times do you pick up the paper and read about a priest , school teacher or a parent doing something to a child . So dont put these guys down .
My husband was friends with a lot of bikers and i know a lot of them. They are everyday working people and love to ride bikes if i was younger it would tickle me to be able to join. I would think it's a lot better than sitting on a bar stool and gossiping about people. They also help the community. I say any one wants to joing, GREAT Probable help a lot of people. My opinion of course
biker gal

United States

#35 Mar 25, 2010
You tell em....whooooo hoooooooooo Thanks for the back up....BOTW deserves it!
SMH employee wrote:
I wil tell anyone that will listen the BOTW are a great bunch of guys. My husband was with them for 26yrs no there not all about drugs if you dont know them dont talk shit about them. Remember that old say dont judge a book by its cover, well just cause they might look a lil rough dont mean that there not good people.Theres good and bad in all groups ,it dont matter what kind it is. How many times do you pick up the paper and read about a priest , school teacher or a parent doing something to a child . So dont put these guys down .

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Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#36 Mar 25, 2010
lol wrote:
i think ppl join gangs of anykind just for the homo erotic thrill of it all
Jesus thinks you are deflecting your own homosexuality. Otherwise, why bring it up? Jesus thinks bikers are awesome. There are criminals in every subset of American society. How would you like it if we said all homos were murderers and thieves. That would make you mad, huh? Or if Jesus said all grannies are murderers and thieves...same thing. Don't judge the bikers because they are bikers. Judge criminals because they are criminals, no matter where they come from. Jesus doesn't think you should judge at all, but what does Jesus know. Jesus loves bikers.- Jesus out
always

United States

#37 Mar 25, 2010
summersville (nicholas county) has always had biker clubs (aka gangs). nothing new...
exactly

United States

#38 Mar 27, 2010
always wrote:
summersville (nicholas county) has always had biker clubs (aka gangs). nothing new...
why dont people know this? have you people been living in a cave?
possibly

United States

#39 Mar 28, 2010
Don't know who or what but Friday night I did see multiple individuals inside The Car Doctor with matching vests on. Usually only those associated with a certain group dress alike.

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Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#40 Mar 28, 2010
possibly wrote:
Don't know who or what but Friday night I did see multiple individuals inside The Car Doctor with matching vests on. Usually only those associated with a certain group dress alike.
Jesus thinks the Romans need some leather vests. Those togas make them look like a gang. Jesus loves leather vests.- Jesus out.

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