Harry

Snowshoe, WV

#24 May 15, 2008
The election is over. Debbie won. It is time to quit bad-mouthing the opponent. Gary is a fine man. He hasn't done anything wrong. I understand that he is doing a wonderful job as Circuit Clerk, and had 13 years working in the office. I also understand that he has never been reprimanded for any wrongdoing in the office. Also, it is not appropripate to bad mouth the ladies that work in the Circuit Clerk office.
Debbie, call off the "dogs". You are the winner whether persons wanted you in or not. I am sure everyone in the office will cooperate with you.
Nasty doesn't help, but a good smile will.
Mary

United States

#25 May 15, 2008
Jolene wrote:
I think everyone knows that Pam Cline was a beautician. We get that - move on, she has!
Pam has been actively involved in Summersville for some time now. She's been on the park board, community action, chamber of commerce, etc. It only took her three weeks in the CVB office to find major embezzlement which resulted in felony charges. Something that Joe and Stanley Adkins didn't notice, that speaks for itself.
There were interviews for the director's job but the majority called and canceled their interview. That was stated in black and white in the paper. And for letting her friends into events, as an employee of the CVB, you receive free tickets. If she decided to give those free tickets to her friends, then so be it.
Did Pam's "family" or "friends" influence the decision of the CVB to hire her? Maybe. Will she do a good job? Yes. She didn't own and operate a very successful business because she's incompetent.
I hope she will do well.

If I am correct, Ms. Cline was on the CVB Board of Directors at the time of the embezzlement. Although I don't hold her directly responsible, I don't understand how nobody noticed this was going on. From the Mayor on down. It makes no sense to me.
I've served on several board's and a part of our job is to monitor the finance's of an organization. There is a finance person, a board president, members authorized to sign checks. Rumor has it, and I realize it's not good to deal only in rumors but the rumor is that Joe Cardulo and the girl who embezzled were the only ones signing checks. Would that not be the first red flag a board of directors or an accountant would look at?
How did they all miss it? How did an accountant not notice anything? I'm sure they are all good people but I hope they've learned a lesson by all of this.
Jolene

Ithaca, NY

#26 May 15, 2008
Mary wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope she will do well.
If I am correct, Ms. Cline was on the CVB Board of Directors at the time of the embezzlement. Although I don't hold her directly responsible, I don't understand how nobody noticed this was going on. From the Mayor on down. It makes no sense to me.
I've served on several board's and a part of our job is to monitor the finance's of an organization. There is a finance person, a board president, members authorized to sign checks. Rumor has it, and I realize it's not good to deal only in rumors but the rumor is that Joe Cardulo and the girl who embezzled were the only ones signing checks. Would that not be the first red flag a board of directors or an accountant would look at?
How did they all miss it? How did an accountant not notice anything? I'm sure they are all good people but I hope they've learned a lesson by all of this.
Yes, Pam was on the board of directors for the CVB. That is why she was recommended as the temp when Joe resigned.

I do agree with you about the embezzlement issue. I cannot grasp why no one ever saw this, especially Joe, the director. It is to my understanding that only two signatures were required on a CVB check: Joe's and the young lady's. According to the paper, the young lady is being accused of using a CVB debt card (I assume to bypass Joe's signature.)

The entire incident is a little off in my opinion. Too many questions and not enough answers. However, as you said, I hope they have learned their lessons.
concerned citizen

United States

#27 May 15, 2008
Harry wrote:
The election is over. Debbie won. It is time to quit bad-mouthing the opponent. Gary is a fine man. He hasn't done anything wrong. I understand that he is doing a wonderful job as Circuit Clerk, and had 13 years working in the office. I also understand that he has never been reprimanded for any wrongdoing in the office. Also, it is not appropripate to bad mouth the ladies that work in the Circuit Clerk office.
Debbie, call off the "dogs". You are the winner whether persons wanted you in or not. I am sure everyone in the office will cooperate with you.
Nasty doesn't help, but a good smile will.
Can anyone tell me what this has to do with the C.V.B?????? OFF TOPIC DAH
S from Richwood

United States

#28 May 15, 2008
Hey, what is the deal about a hairdresser just doing toenails, hairdos, and so on? You really are narrow minded if you think that is what it's all about. The number one requirement....selling. Number 2...marketing. HELLOOOOO! I'm a hairdresser and quite offended by your description of requirements. Also, when you have a salon with multiple stations....recruiting!!!! HELLOOOO! Personality!!! Helloo! Look at the new show on HGTV...from hairdresser to her own show. Life is what you make it people...whoever succeeds!
Harry

Snowshoe, WV

#29 May 15, 2008
concerned citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Can anyone tell me what this has to do with the C.V.B?????? OFF TOPIC DAH
Supposed to be a reply to Sara from Summersville,who made comment about Gary being handed the CC job.
Sara in Summersville

United States

#30 May 16, 2008
Jolene wrote:
I think everyone knows that Pam Cline was a beautician. We get that - move on, she has!
Pam has been actively involved in Summersville for some time now. She's been on the park board, community action, chamber of commerce, etc. It only took her three weeks in the CVB office to find major embezzlement which resulted in felony charges. Something that Joe and Stanley Adkins didn't notice, that speaks for itself.
There were interviews for the director's job but the majority called and canceled their interview. That was stated in black and white in the paper. And for letting her friends into events, as an employee of the CVB, you receive free tickets. If she decided to give those free tickets to her friends, then so be it.
Did Pam's "family" or "friends" influence the decision of the CVB to hire her? Maybe. Will she do a good job? Yes. She didn't own and operate a very successful business because she's incompetent.
Jolene,

I agree with you that pam has served on committees, she had a business and that her family and friends likely influenced the decision to give her the job.
That still doesn't mean she has what it takes to run an organization. Time will tell. I hope I'm wrong, for the sake of the community.

The frustration by many, including people who wanted to apply for the job, is that the process was biased. If you are on Team Cline, you won't agree with that, so we'll have to just agree to disagree on this one.
It's clear to the all the voters who didn't want her as a Recorder. They also don't want her running a huge organization.

In regards to her finding the embezzlement. Anybody who walked into that building could have found it based on what I've heard around town. She doesn't score points for her investigative abilities.

Regarding free tickets. Had no idea, nor do I care that she get's free tickets. I do care that the business I work for has rented the facility at a high price only to find out in the paper that many people don't have to pay, based on their friendships with Pam, Gary Withey, Bob Shafer. It's poor business practices. And, my boss won't ever go there ever again as a result. He also didn't like being pressured to use a certain caterer and if we didn't, it would cost him more money to rent the armory kitchen. Also poor business practices in a town that needs our business.

The CVB must be set up different than any other organization that has a Board of Director's because 2 employees are never to sign checks. There was the red flag folks.

It's hard to find confidence in a board that existed when the embezzlement occurred. I've heard that some members have resigned. Good for them! They know they've done the right thing.
All previous members should have resigned, most especially the officers and started anew. I, for one, would have the upmost respect for that and would have felt much better about the employment/hiring process.
Mary

United States

#31 May 16, 2008
Jolene wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Pam was on the board of directors for the CVB. That is why she was recommended as the temp when Joe resigned.
I do agree with you about the embezzlement issue. I cannot grasp why no one ever saw this, especially Joe, the director. It is to my understanding that only two signatures were required on a CVB check: Joe's and the young lady's. According to the paper, the young lady is being accused of using a CVB debt card (I assume to bypass Joe's signature.)
The entire incident is a little off in my opinion. Too many questions and not enough answers. However, as you said, I hope they have learned their lessons.
Joe should have known money was being stolen.
There should have been a check's and balance system in place. The buck didn't stop with Joe. Other's above him are accountable.
Like you said, Pam was on that board.

Jolene

Ithaca, NY

#32 May 16, 2008
I am not a "Team Cline" member, just someone that believes that everyone should be given a chance. Pam was successful for many years running her own company; therefore, I feel that she will do well running the CVB. Being on the board, she is familiar with the job requirements, expectations, and the duties.

Regarding the embezzlement, I don't think that just anyone could have found it. The young lady is being accused of embezzling for over a one year period. That's a long time for someone not to notice! Who's is at fault? The fingers point to just about everyone. We need to except that it happened, hope that they made the appropriate changes and hope that they have learned from their errors.

I do agree with you on job positions being offered more to friends/family of someone in or around the potential job site. Case in point, the Summersville "party planner", Rhianna Underwood. Other than being the spouse of State Trooper Mike Underwood (and now the girlfriend of City policeman Gary Brown's son), what was her job qualifications? The poor thing didn't even have the Little League parade last year and the Summersville Freedom Rally was a mess. However, Potato Day went well and the Easter egg hunt was very nice. She appears to be coming long nicely.

Unfortunately, favoritism is everywhere. Look at Allegheny Power, Verizon, even the coal companies. It's almost impossible to get a job with Allegheny - unless you know someone. Sometimes your friends override your resume.
Sherri Mae

United States

#33 May 16, 2008
Jolene wrote:
I am not a "Team Cline" member, just someone that believes that everyone should be given a chance. Pam was successful for many years running her own company; therefore, I feel that she will do well running the CVB. Being on the board, she is familiar with the job requirements, expectations, and the duties.
Regarding the embezzlement, I don't think that just anyone could have found it. The young lady is being accused of embezzling for over a one year period. That's a long time for someone not to notice! Who's is at fault? The fingers point to just about everyone. We need to except that it happened, hope that they made the appropriate changes and hope that they have learned from their errors.
I do agree with you on job positions being offered more to friends/family of someone in or around the potential job site. Case in point, the Summersville "party planner", Rhianna Underwood. Other than being the spouse of State Trooper Mike Underwood (and now the girlfriend of City policeman Gary Brown's son), what was her job qualifications? The poor thing didn't even have the Little League parade last year and the Summersville Freedom Rally was a mess. However, Potato Day went well and the Easter egg hunt was very nice. She appears to be coming long nicely.
Unfortunately, favoritism is everywhere. Look at Allegheny Power, Verizon, even the coal companies. It's almost impossible to get a job with Allegheny - unless you know someone. Sometimes your friends override your resume.
Where is Joe Cardullo? I understand he is also involved in the embezzlement and that is why he vanished. Last I heard they can't find him.
Debbie

United States

#34 May 17, 2008
Mary wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope she will do well.
If I am correct, Ms. Cline was on the CVB Board of Directors at the time of the embezzlement. Although I don't hold her directly responsible, I don't understand how nobody noticed this was going on. From the Mayor on down. It makes no sense to me.
I've served on several board's and a part of our job is to monitor the finance's of an organization. There is a finance person, a board president, members authorized to sign checks. Rumor has it, and I realize it's not good to deal only in rumors but the rumor is that Joe Cardulo and the girl who embezzled were the only ones signing checks. Would that not be the first red flag a board of directors or an accountant would look at?
How did they all miss it? How did an accountant not notice anything? I'm sure they are all good people but I hope they've learned a lesson by all of this.
Like father like daughter
Steve from Summersville

United States

#35 May 17, 2008
Debbie wrote:
<quoted text>Like father like daughter
That was a little unfair, don't you think? And don't go stating that I'm "team Cline". Why would you hold the daughter responsible for the mistake of the father? I've been reading the same newspaper that you guys are referrig to and I believe it stated that after Ms. Cline came on board, there have been alot of prior contracts negotiated that were bad deals. I've heard that since she came on, rates were set and put into a brochure that explains what they are. And now that's what the contracts are based on. As for the kitchen being charged for if you don't use the armory caterer? Why would't you charge for another caterer to use the facility? That's called rent. I've talked to the armory caterer and she's charged rent. You guys don't know what your talking about. You basing facts on rumors. Give us some names of who's been given free use of the facility. The "friends and political friends"? I heard out of a hospital meeting that Ms. Cline has even set a rate for when the hospital uses it. There is a base rate for when the community uses it for community things with the exception of maybe the little basketball league. And did you not read the paper when the hiring was done. 3 of the 5 interviews didn't show up. It didn't say they cancelled...so it was between 2 candidates. So you think they should have given it to Steve Lerose??? MMMMMM..that makes sense. Check kiting, what was it, 3.5 million? And Joe Cardullo hasn't disappeared. I saw him not long ago at the community Walmart. Come on, guys, aren't you getting alittle far fetched?
Steve from Summersville

United States

#36 May 17, 2008
Sara in Summersville wrote:
<quoted text>
That I can't cut hair like her? Sure, that would be nice. She was good at it. Very talented. I could save myself a lot of money if I had that abilitiy. I don't have that job though because I'm not qualified to do it.
Am I jealous that she got the CVB job? No. I'm frustrated that she is not qualified for the job and was unfairly handed the position when there are people all over Nicholas County and the state of WV who have so much to offer.
This isn't about a dislike that I have for Pam Cline. I feel the same about anyone who is handed a job without proper credentials because they are in the good 'ole boy system.
I felt the same when Gary Jarrel was handed the Circuit Clerk position over Debbie, whom had many more years of experience. Gary seems like a nice enough guy but was it fair that he got a job that Debbie was more qualified for based on her experience?
The voters spoke and if the CVB job and others in this city worked like an election and the citizens had a say in it, instead of a handful of friends or political buddies, things would be different around here or hopefully, at least a bit more fair and balanced.
I think there's a little more to running a beauty shop like she had than just cutting hair. Just because you can't cut hair doesn't mean you can't learn. People, accept the fact. Pam Tucker Cline is the CVB director. Let's she what she can do.
maggie from summersville

Ithaca, NY

#37 May 17, 2008
lets see how much money she can spend. Check out the court house tax lien you can see how well she can handle a business
Sara in Summersville

United States

#38 May 17, 2008
Steve from Summersville wrote:
<quoted text>
That was a little unfair, don't you think? And don't go stating that I'm "team Cline". Why would you hold the daughter responsible for the mistake of the father? I've been reading the same newspaper that you guys are referrig to and I believe it stated that after Ms. Cline came on board, there have been alot of prior contracts negotiated that were bad deals. I've heard that since she came on, rates were set and put into a brochure that explains what they are. And now that's what the contracts are based on. As for the kitchen being charged for if you don't use the armory caterer? Why would't you charge for another caterer to use the facility? That's called rent. I've talked to the armory caterer and she's charged rent. You guys don't know what your talking about. You basing facts on rumors. Give us some names of who's been given free use of the facility. The "friends and political friends"? I heard out of a hospital meeting that Ms. Cline has even set a rate for when the hospital uses it. There is a base rate for when the community uses it for community things with the exception of maybe the little basketball league. And did you not read the paper when the hiring was done. 3 of the 5 interviews didn't show up. It didn't say they cancelled...so it was between 2 candidates. So you think they should have given it to Steve Lerose??? MMMMMM..that makes sense. Check kiting, what was it, 3.5 million? And Joe Cardullo hasn't disappeared. I saw him not long ago at the community Walmart. Come on, guys, aren't you getting alittle far fetched?
Steve LeRose interviewed? Hmmm. Interesting.
Jolene

Ithaca, NY

#39 May 17, 2008
Sherri Mae wrote:
<quoted text>
Where is Joe Cardullo? I understand he is also involved in the embezzlement and that is why he vanished. Last I heard they can't find him.
They must not be looking too hard. I see Joe quite often at Wal-Mart. I haven't that he may be involved. Very interesting!
Jolene

Ithaca, NY

#40 May 17, 2008
Oops.....typo error. I haven't heard that he may be involved.
Curious in Summersville

United States

#41 May 18, 2008
maggie from summersville wrote:
lets see how much money she can spend. Check out the court house tax lien you can see how well she can handle a business
Tell us the details.
Sharon

United States

#42 May 18, 2008
That tax lien isn't hers, it's from her husband's old business.
liz from timbuctoo

Summersville, WV

#43 May 19, 2008
Mmmm, curious how you would know that?

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