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just curious

United States

#1 Oct 26, 2008
I read this week in the Nicholas Chronicle that the Sheriff Bennett is not in favor of a day reporting center. Then why is Nicholas County going to have one? If it is not backed by the sheriff's department then who will over see it? Is this another way to waste tax payer money? Is it going to be a good thing to have criminals hanging out at the courthouse without supervison?
Baby Face

United States

#2 Oct 26, 2008
I hope the Sheriff doesnt over see it. he cant even run the law enforcement end
Jim

United States

#3 Oct 26, 2008
I think the day reporting center is going to be run by the probation department.
Fred

Walker, WV

#4 Oct 27, 2008
I think the day report center is a bad idea. Look at greenbrier county or any other county. the criminals know that the commission doesnt want to pay a jail bill and the magistrates know this also so they will give into it and all of the criminals will be sentenced to this day report center and then still be committing crimes when they go home. This is a bad idea that needs to be stopped. The people of nicholas county do not want to see these criminals in the community they want them behind bars where they should be, i think our prosecutors, magistrates, and judge have forgotten to listen to the people.
BUSTER

United States

#5 Oct 27, 2008
I know one that probably wont. Thats the one in Richwood. He wont even put them on home confinement
Favortism

Clear Spring, MD

#6 Oct 27, 2008
Why don't you ask Judge Johnson who is going to be responsible for the day reporting center. From what I hear the ex circuit court clerk Gary Jarrell will be in charge of it. It's a good thing the day reporting center will be coming to Summersville about the same time Gary will be out of a job.
just curious

United States

#7 Oct 27, 2008
so the people in this county suffer just so someone can have a cheesy job. I hope people remember that when the next election gets here.
nick

Normantown, WV

#8 Oct 27, 2008
from what i have been told there are people more qualified for the job then gary. so you know that going to be a big problem. from what i heard it maybe a women that gets the job. I but it hard to tell what will happen to the program or if it even get up and running.
Learn the Facts

United States

#9 Oct 27, 2008
The day reporting center is being mostly funded by a grant obtained by Fayette County and the employees will be on Fayette Counties payroll, so the people of nicholas county will not be suffering so someone will have a job. A committee made up of several agencies selected who would oversee the reporting center and also who the employees would be. Jude Johnson is not on this committee nor did he make any of these decisions. Many of the qualified applicants withdrew their applications when they found out that the salary was not very high. Gary Jarrell was offered the position and he accepted it. Gary applied for his old job back at the circuit clerk's office, which would have been much less money than the day reporting center, but even though he has to be the most experience candidate (remember, experience is very important in the circuit clerk's office), he was not offered his job back, so he applied for the day reporting center. Gary has a family to support. He has two children, one in elementary school and one is college, who are very good kids and are productive citizens. He did what he had to do to support his family and should not be criticized for it. Gary was a good and valuable employee for the county and served the citizens of Nicholas County very well as deputy circuit clerk and circuit clerk. He took a big chance to continue to serve the citizen of nicholas county and lost, graciously I might add. He could have drawn unemployment but Gary is not that kind of man, opportunity knocked and he opened the door, as any other self respectable family man who needs and wants to continue to support his family would and should. Next, you gripe about wasting taxpayers money but you don't realize that putting criminals in jail is very expensive. Our jails are not very good at rehabilitation and, as pointed out in this forum, not a very good deterent to crime. Criminals never commit crimes believing they are going to get caught. Many who have been in jail continue to commit crimes. A form of rehabilitation is mandated by state law and attempting this through the day reporting center will be much less expensive that through the jail. Critcizing is easy when you don't know the facts or can't see the big picture.
nicholas native

United States

#10 Oct 27, 2008
Does anyone know why the new circuit clerk didn't hire Gary? He would certainly be the most experienced and qualified applicant for the job.
baby face

Ithaca, NY

#11 Oct 29, 2008
She didnt hire him because he probably never put in an application. Plus she may not be going to hire anyone to replace him. She is a worker not a sit on the buff as he was.
baby face

Ithaca, NY

#12 Oct 29, 2008
Learn the facts, you are very wrong in your opinion. The neww clerk could not accept applications now. she doesnt come in office until nov 4. You really dont know what you are talking about. Also they need jail. Not driving around all over nich. co and picking them up and taking them for a ride. Just think if some of the less fortunate people could get a deal like this.
Jim

United States

#13 Oct 29, 2008
baby face wrote:
She didnt hire him because he probably never put in an application. Plus she may not be going to hire anyone to replace him. She is a worker not a sit on the buff as he was.
He did put in an application and you may be right, she may be a hard enough worker that she can do two jobs, and that is her choice. But, June Gower must have thought he did plenty of work because she kept him for 13+ years and she doesn't strike me as the kind of woman who would put up with a "sit on the buff" kind of employee. Judge Johnson thought well enough of his performance to appoint him as circuit clerk upon the recommendations of most of the people who actually deal or work directly with the circuit clerk's office. Additionally, the community corrections committee must think he is a good employee, he got a job didn't he.
Mount Nebo gal

Bridgeport, WV

#14 Oct 30, 2008
This is what the Chronicle said (Oct 9 issue):

"Nicholas County Probation Officer Roger Beverage, Sheriff Wetzel Bennett and Prosecuting Attorney Mark Hudnall came before the Commission to discuss the proposed Day Reporting Center to be located in the former Heilig-Meyers Furniture building on Broad Steet in Summersville. The center will be a place where convicted criminals will report to receive community service work, training for jobs and anti-drug and alcohol treament instead of being sentenced to jail. It is anticipated that the center will greatly reduce regional jail fees of the county. The day reporting center is being funded 85 percent through a state grant received by both Fayette and Nicholas Counties."

When I read that, I hear:
1. Who cares if the citizens of Nicholas County will be as safe with convicted criminals reporting in instead of being in jail because we will be saving money! I mean, money in the County coffers is more important than public safety isn't it???
2. Thank goodness, we finally have something we can use the old Heilig-Meyers building for! Now maybe the tax payers will hush up about us buying it for X amount of money only to let it set there, unused.
Concerned

United States

#15 Oct 30, 2008
Sounds like another pull of politicians- a buddy out of a job- no worries we'll just make one up for him- who knows who will pay for it!
Cry me a river

United States

#16 Oct 30, 2008
Learn the Facts wrote:
The day reporting center is being mostly funded by a grant obtained by Fayette County and the employees will be on Fayette Counties payroll, so the people of nicholas county will not be suffering so someone will have a job. A committee made up of several agencies selected who would oversee the reporting center and also who the employees would be. Jude Johnson is not on this committee nor did he make any of these decisions. Many of the qualified applicants withdrew their applications when they found out that the salary was not very high. Gary Jarrell was offered the position and he accepted it. Gary applied for his old job back at the circuit clerk's office, which would have been much less money than the day reporting center, but even though he has to be the most experience candidate (remember, experience is very important in the circuit clerk's office), he was not offered his job back, so he applied for the day reporting center. Gary has a family to support. He has two children, one in elementary school and one is college, who are very good kids and are productive citizens. He did what he had to do to support his family and should not be criticized for it. Gary was a good and valuable employee for the county and served the citizens of Nicholas County very well as deputy circuit clerk and circuit clerk. He took a big chance to continue to serve the citizen of nicholas county and lost, graciously I might add. He could have drawn unemployment but Gary is not that kind of man, opportunity knocked and he opened the door, as any other self respectable family man who needs and wants to continue to support his family would and should. Next, you gripe about wasting taxpayers money but you don't realize that putting criminals in jail is very expensive. Our jails are not very good at rehabilitation and, as pointed out in this forum, not a very good deterent to crime. Criminals never commit crimes believing they are going to get caught. Many who have been in jail continue to commit crimes. A form of rehabilitation is mandated by state law and attempting this through the day reporting center will be much less expensive that through the jail. Critcizing is easy when you don't know the facts or can't see the big picture.
That was a sad story, thank you for sharing with us. If you remember, Gary was "given" the job by none other than Judge Johnson even though Debbie had numerous years of seniority and experience.

Gary was not elected by the people of Nicholas County and knew that he could possibly lose the election. Do you elect someone because of their family obligations? It was HIS decision to take the job and along with that comes the responsibility of possibly losing it.

Get the facts???? I'd like to know how Debbie would not let him have his job back when she isn't in the position to offer it to him yet. Is Gary not the Circuit Court Clerk? And where did you get your facts that she wouldn't hire him back, unnamed sources I am sure.

You want people to get the facts, so why don't you post yours right here for everyone to see?
Cry me a river

United States

#17 Oct 30, 2008
nicholas native wrote:
Does anyone know why the new circuit clerk didn't hire Gary? He would certainly be the most experienced and qualified applicant for the job.
I'm confused here. "Learn the facts" said that Gary had a family to support so why would he apply or even want a job that paid less money? Unless you are an idiot or have other motives, who would do that if you have a family to support?

I can't wait for a response to this.
Cry me a river

United States

#18 Oct 30, 2008
Several questions for "Learn the facts".

Who was part of the committee who choose to hire Gary?

If Nicholas County will not be responsible for one dime of the costs of the day reporting center or its employees, is Fayette County going to rent the Heilig-Meyers building and pay a monthy fee or are they going to buy it outright and pay for it with the grant money? The citizens of Nicholas County have paid for the building so would you not consider that a cost to the taxpayers?

Apparently is was a good idea for the county commission to buy the building so I'm sure you'll give Tom your vote in support of his decision.
just curious

United States

#19 Oct 31, 2008
The committee for the day reporting center is headed by Roger Beverage, a yes man for Judge Johnson.
Yes Gary does need to have a job. He has a family to support. And maybe he will do a good job running this program. He should have asked for a meeting with Debbie to discuss his future in the Circuit Clerk's office instead of assuming that he did not have a job. I know she has been telling people to submit a resume and she will make decisions once she actually is sworn in as circuit clerk.
Regarding the day reporting center, I still feel that it will not be an easy task to run and it be a success since the Sheriff's Department will not be on board with their support or assistance. Controlling criminals is not an easy task. Especially for one or two people. Luckily the day reporting center will be located downtown so maybe the City Police can provide assistance.
I doubt that Fayette County will be paying anything for the use of the building.
Cry me a river

United States

#20 Oct 31, 2008
Jim wrote:
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He did put in an application and you may be right, she may be a hard enough worker that she can do two jobs, and that is her choice. But, June Gower must have thought he did plenty of work because she kept him for 13+ years and she doesn't strike me as the kind of woman who would put up with a "sit on the buff" kind of employee. Judge Johnson thought well enough of his performance to appoint him as circuit clerk upon the recommendations of most of the people who actually deal or work directly with the circuit clerk's office. Additionally, the community corrections committee must think he is a good employee, he got a job didn't he.
Did June not think Debbie was an excellent employee since she was there longer than Gary? I'm sure June didn't let Debbie sit on her buff or not know her job because June wasn't that type of person according to you.

Are you saying that those who gave Judge Johnson a recommendation for Gary thought Debbie's work was insufficient? I'm sure they would have complained to June if Debbie wasn't professional or courteous enough so what did Gary do to "earn" his recommendations?

"Learn the facts" said that most of the qualified people withdrew their applications so how many "qualified" people did the committee choose from? If (and I say "if" because I don't know) the committee had only two or three applications to choose from, did Gary get the job because he was a good employee, or they simply had no other choice.

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