Arnold Murray's Secret Identity

[Anderson Guy]

Exactly. But when the blind lead the blind, then both shall fall into the ditch.

[Anderson Guy]

Minister Dante, you make some good points. False doctrine abounds on these forums. They are going to miss the rapture they hate so much.

[Jeanie]

John writes:

Greetings, if the kenites are the children of cain, then why did Moses, a good man of God, marry one of them?

Thanks, John



Answer:

Hello John:

Let's look at the Scripture in question:

Judg 1:16
16 And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.(KJV)

children: Hebrew word #1121 ben (bane); from 1129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc.,[like 1, 251, etc.]):

Moses' father in law is referred to as 'Kenite' because he was from the land of the Kenites, he was a stranger in a strange land:

Exod 18:1-3
1 When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses' father in law, heard of all that God had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that the LORD had brought Israel out of Egypt;
2 Then Jethro, Moses' father in law, took Zipporah, Moses' wife, after he had sent her back,
3 And her two sons; of which the name of the one was Gershom; for he said, I have been an alien in a strange land:(KJV)

Exod 3:1
1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.(KJV)

To be a priest of Midian, Moses' father in law needed to be a full blood Midianite. The Tribe of Midian descended from Abraham, not Cain (thus not a Kenite):

Gen 25:1-2
1 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.
2 And she bare him Zimran, and Jokshan, and Medan, and Midian, and Ishbak, and Shuah.
(KJV)

It is just like when an African becomes a German citizen, the African does not change race, he is still African (black) but his children are German citizens and properly referred to as Germans, not Africans. By the same token, Moses' father in law lived among the Kenites, but by birth he was a Midianite, a Midianite Priest even.

[Malachi]

Minister Dante Fortson wrote:

The Kenites originate from the tribe of Benjamin, not the line of Cain.

...FYI to you false prophet...Ever LOOK into the word Kenite to actually find out the meaning of the word Kenite????...Not reall hard to study and seek it out...

...Kenite means the offspring of Cain;..Sons of Cain... Kenite is a member of the tribe of Cain ...

Cain =ïP÷­qayinkah'-yin Strong's #7014
The same as H7013 (with a play upon the affinity to H7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe:—Cain, Kenite (-s).
The word "Kenite", a child of "Kayin", is a "transliteration" which is simply when you convert the letters of one language into the letters of another language. That differs from a "translation" where you convert a word to its meaning. The meaning of "Kenite" comes from the Hebrew word "Qayin" or "Kayin" who is known to us English speaking peoples as "Cain". You see, the letter "Koph" (÷) in Hebrew which is the first letter in the name Kayin, Qayin, Cain, has the sound of a "K" or a "Q" or a hard "C", just like the "K" and "C" in the names Kathy and Cathy are pronounced exactly the same way in English. A Cain-ite, or Ken-ite in English, is therefore a son of, or descendent of, Cain (not to be confused with a Canaanite).
Here is Strong's definition of "Kenite":

Kenites =éð„é÷«éð„" qeòynŒòy qŒòynŒòy kay-nee', kee-nee' Strong's #7017
Patronymic from H7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin:—Kenite.
So do not make this difficult. The children of Cain are simply called "Ken-ites" just as the children of Israel are called Israel-ites

[Jeanie]

So we see that all Jews are not the same people; and to speek out about the Zionists or the Kenites is not to speak against Mr. & Mrs. average everyday "Jew." The average Jew is the victim of the Kenite, though the Kenite identifies himself as a Jew. Confusing? It really isn't. It is the same model like their (Kenite's) Satanic Illuminati, Illuminati hid within Free Masonry, separate and apart; just like the Kenites hide within Jewry separate and apart; just like they did in the Old Testament with Israel: "And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab." (1 Chron 2:55).
And don't worry about people hurting the Kenite, the Kenite shall (and always has) hurt the peoples of God. God saw to it that they would always make it through; in the beginning He set a mark upon Cain that none could kill him. In the end satan shall require God's people to take a mark of the beast―is this some kind of mocking tit-for-tat? I don't know.
Do you know who the Kenite is?
You should, for he has a very active part in your life; you are enslaved to him and do not even perceive it. He ultimately holds the note on your car and home; he sets the price for your food and oil; the interest rates for your money which you let him use to make his money. He makes your laws, runs your country's war machine; he makes Presidents, and "pro-choice" laws; he stirs racial animosity, he is the guarantor on your insurance policies, he's also your taxer. He tells you what is acceptable for you to think and say, and then sets up the apparatus (Political Correctness,'hate' speech laws, etc.) to condemn and punish you when you disobey.
There is nothing in your life that he does not control. He corrupts your churches, he takes away your crosses from government lands that you fund, he takes God out of your schools and inserts 'alternative lifestyle' reeducation in His place. He is your master and yet he is invisible. He has muddled your history books, omitted the true and inserted lies. He drew the Christian nations into war against each other in the Worlds Wars. He foments all wars and revolutions―he is above all a revolutionary―for his credo is, "Destroy everything; whatever is, is wrong."
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[Jeanie]

This second movement aims for the establishment of a new racial domination of the world...the moving spirits in the second scheme are Jewish radicals. Within the ranks of Communism is a group of this party, but it does not stop there. To its leaders Communism is only an incident. They are ready to use the Islamic revolt, hatred by the Central Empire of England, Japan's designs on India and commercial rivalries between America and Japan. As any movement of world revolution must be, this is primarily anti‑Anglo&#8209 ;Saxon...The organization of the world Jewish radical movement has been perfected in almost every land." ― The Chicago Tribune, June 19, 1920.
He poisons your children with unsafe (and unnecessary) drugs and inoculations, he poisons (sedates/makes docile) you with fluoride in your water, emasculates your men with feminizing hormones in your plastic food containers and masculinizes your women with other chemicals. He was behind the women's movement, the racial integration laws, the Social Welfare System―he is above all a Marxist Communist.
"Some call it Marxism ― I call it Judaism." ― The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise, May 5, 1935.
And he is not done with you. His motto is, "Out of chaos, order." Thus he must destroy your world so that his may rise from it's ashes: "Pluralistic chaos, out of which the Phoenix of the New World ORDER can arise. Resurrected from the ashes of the Mysteries of the past.". He above all promotes social reforms, for they all play into his hand of destroying everything that was once holy, true, and good.
He is the friend of the gay, the lawless, the Atheist, the criminal; he shall make your world theirs. He is the enemy of Christianity, God, and Jesus Christ; he seeks to make that world his own and his god satan's. He attacks every tenant of your Christian Bible, yet he is esteemed as the chosen of God by the ignorant and the indifferent. The Bible paints a very different picture of these people and their great-ancestor satan, the serpent of old.
Gen 3:14-15
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.(KJV)
The Kenite is everything spiritually and morally vile. Don't weep for his safety, he wants you dead. And in the end, for a little while, his god and father Lucifer shall rule the world―then Christian beware! You have absolutely not seen anything yet by comparison.
Matt 24:21-22
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.(KJV)
You ask if we are not to harm or hinder them? You couldn't, he already possesses you, what can the slave do to the master? Only God can set things strait, and He shall at the appointed time.
Just open your eyes and try to protect yourself until the time. And pray. Study the Word and pray.

[Jeanie]

If anyone were to ask, "Who are the Kenites?" Most people would have no clue, but they are
in fact a real race of people, just like Caucasian or Indian. The problem of their identity is
most people are not biblical students, shoot, most people wouldn't even know where they
themselves migrated from. History class didn't do a very good job teaching us about our
migration, for example: Why do we call white people, Caucasians? Because Caucasians
migrated from the Middle East and crossed the Caucasus Mountains, settled in Europe and
finally migrated to North America, of course some stayed in Europe. There is more to it than
that because most historians are biblically illiterate therefore they do not use one of the best
tools for historical documentation, "The Bible".
To start it would be helpful to have a Hebrew Dictionary, an older one is the better because
the "Kenites" as I will illustrate, have crept in and have taken away our accurate
documentation. Look up #7014 in the Hebrew Dictionary, it should say that they are an
oriental tribe, and so on, but at the end it will say, Cain-Kenite. The oriental tribe is called
Qajin, not Kenite if you were wondering. Just like if you are a Jew, you are a descendant of
Judah, it's that simple.

[Jeanie]

So the descendants of Cain were (Kenites) not Canaanites,
Canaanites were from Canaan. Now you can go to 1Chronicles 2:55, and you will see the
Kenites worked their way into becoming scribes and in Jeremiah 35 they settled in
Jerusalem. If you are not sure what scribes do, they write laws and rules and take care of the
money system. Notice at no time have I mentioned the Jews, you see through Adam came
Abraham then Isaac then Israel or the "Twelve Tribes" of Israel, one of which is Judah, the
Jewish people, not Kenites. Next go to John 8:42-44, Jesus himself calls out the Kenites or
descendants of Cain (first murderer, John 8:44). Also Matt. 13:37-39, Jesus points out who
the Tares are and John 8:1-6, the scribes here wanted Jesus to die, they are also "Kenites".
You see back in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah the priesthood got polluted with
non-Levitical priests, Neh.10:34-39, but read both books and you will understand. These
priests and scribes were Kenites and crept in to pollute Gods Laws and people. Now check
out, Matt. 9:3-4, Matt. 26:3-4, Mark 14:43, Mark:14:55, Mark 15:1-3, Mark 15:9-13, Luke 6:7,
Luke 22:1-6, Luke 23:10 and many more places. Now to seal the answer to who are the
Kenites, go to Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, here we have the Kenites claiming to be Jews but are
of the synagogue of Satan. So ultimately the Jews did not murder Jesus, the Kenites did.
Finally, Where are they today? It doesn't take one to look very hard to see the content of who
a Kenite is. Here are some key points to look at: They claim to be Jewish, they have a zeal
for money, even heading the monetary system, they write our laws and change laws to fit
there own agenda, they are in various religions to confuse people to what the real truth is,
they run and are in our education system, and governments of the world.
Here is some more scripture to point them out. Gen. 4:12, they cannot make anything to
grow, so we know they aren't farmers. There main motive is to twist Gods Word in religions to
steer them away from the truth, check out Matthew 4:5-6, the devil himself quoted scripture
but he twisted it. He quoted Psalms 91:11-12 and he omitted, "to keep thee in all thy ways"
and added, "at any time", and he failed to quote the very next verse, v.13, Thou shalt tread
upon the lion and adder (serpent): the young lion and the dragon (satan) shalt thou trample
under feet, which goes back to the first prophecy of the bible, Gen. 3:15. Remember the first
warning Jesus gave just about every time he spoke, "Take heed lest any man deceive you,
for they shall come in my name, claiming to be Christians, and shall deceive many.
Mark 13:5-6, Matthew 24:4-5 and 11, Luke 21:8, 1John 3:7-8,
2Thess. 2:3 and many other places.
Other scripture to check out: Matthew 23:29-39 and 1Corinthians 2:6-8

[Jeanie]

check out Matthew 4:5-6, the devil himself quoted scripture
but he twisted it. He quoted Psalms 91:11-12 and he omitted, "to keep thee in all thy ways"
and added, "at any time",

Does this "at any time" sound very familiar to anyone? oh yes it does, is it just a coincidence that those that believe in a pre-trib. RAPTURE use a very similar phrase as to what old satan himself used? they use the phrase--"at any moment" the rapture can occur.So no i don't believe it's a coincidence at all, after all the rapture doctrine is just another one of satans old lies just as 2thess.2:3 proves Jesus does not return til AFTER the man of sin, satan, has been revealed.

[Tom Hurst]

Perhaps you should all learn something about the Bible. Jacob was Israel and had twelve sons and Joseph carried the birthright through his sons Ephraim and Mannaseh. Can you read. Also the bible does warn of Kenites who are of Rechab and Ezra also worries that Levi was absent from the returnees to Jerusalem and Rechabites if you look are sons of Cain.They took over the duties of the Temple before Jesus was born. He called them the Synagogue of Satan. They perverted the word of God and Jesus called it the traditions of man which is still around today in our so called Christian churches.Obviously you never heard of Gods elect who he foreknew which means they were from the first world era, just where do you think all those dinasaurs come from? This era is the second earth age, read the Bible. Adamic man is 6000 years old and if you look carefully he was Ruddy and of a fair countenance which means White and capable of visibly blushing, just like King David.To maligne and discredit one Pastor who reads well is just plain back-biting and gossip, both sinful. If you search the Bible the first earth age was destroyed by a flood and I do not mean at Noahs time. Those Sons of God(angels) tried to destroy Gods work by mating with Adamic man and were called Nephilim read the bible folks read the bible. They were corrupted bloodline people not like Noah who was of pure blood.Only two churches were acceptable to Jesus from the book of Revelations, The church of Smyrna and the Chrurch of Philadelphia speaking in todays times. Read it.

[Anderson Guy]

Tom Hurst wrote:

Perhaps you should all learn something about the Bible. Jacob was Israel and had twelve sons and Joseph carried the birthright through his sons Ephraim and Mannaseh. Can you read. Also the bible does warn of Kenites who are of Rechab and Ezra also worries that Levi was absent from the returnees to Jerusalem and Rechabites if you look are sons of Cain.They took over the duties of the Temple before Jesus was born. He called them the Synagogue of Satan. They perverted the word of God and Jesus called it the traditions of man which is still around today in our so called Christian churches.Obviously you never heard of Gods elect who he foreknew which means they were from the first world era, just where do you think all those dinasaurs come from? This era is the second earth age, read the Bible. Adamic man is 6000 years old and if you look carefully he was Ruddy and of a fair countenance which means White and capable of visibly blushing, just like King David.To maligne and discredit one Pastor who reads well is just plain back-biting and gossip, both sinful. If you search the Bible the first earth age was destroyed by a flood and I do not mean at Noahs time. Those Sons of God(angels) tried to destroy Gods work by mating with Adamic man and were called Nephilim read the bible folks read the bible. They were corrupted bloodline people not like Noah who was of pure blood.Only two churches were acceptable to Jesus from the book of Revelations, The church of Smyrna and the Chrurch of Philadelphia speaking in todays times. Read it.

Wow! Keep it up and I'm gonna nominate you for "idiot of the year award". You are a twister of scripture.

[leaflady]

I didn't know any of this 2 seed teaching, etc. and I'm certain my husband doesn't either or we wouldn't have been watching Shepard's Chapel off and on for all these yesrs. Some of what he says does make our eyebrows raise a bit.

I do wish he and several others would watch &/or govern their captioning more closely. Some of how the words come out make no sense at all.

[Jeanie]

It sure is hard to believe someone has been watching SC on and off for years and never heard him teach on the 2 seeds,as he teaches this quite often , often enough that anyone that hasn't even been a regular listener should have heard it, anyway, PM teaches it beacuse YHVH teaches it in Gen.3:15,16. I'm sure it would make ones eyebrows raise a bit, like those that have been taught all their life that the sin Eve committed from that tree was eating a literal apple, when it wasn't even a literal 'tree', that tree was literaly satan, he is called the "tree of knowledge of good and evil" just as Jesus is called the "Tree of Life" in that garden.If one would listen to PM teach regularly and not just off and on, and study for them selves, one will understand the word a whole lot better and it will then begin to make sense to one.I pray that YHVH will open your eyes and ears to His word.

[Becky]

Jeanie, you are a good girl. I want you to know I appreciate you:)

[Jeanie]

Becky wrote:

Jeanie, you are a good girl. I want you to know I appreciate you:)

Hey there Becky! thanky you and same back to you, hope all is well with you, and don't be such a stranger, some of us do miss you! I bet even Anderson Guy, aka Baps misses you too, lol.

[Anchel]

leaflady wrote:

I didn't know any of this 2 seed teaching, etc. and I'm certain my husband doesn't either or we wouldn't have been watching Shepard's Chapel off and on for all these yesrs. Some of what he says does make our eyebrows raise a bit.
I do wish he and several others would watch &/or govern their captioning more closely. Some of how the words come out make no sense at all.

Don't believe Mr. Murray. The two seedlines are spiritual. The good seed is the Spirit of God, and the bad seed is the spirit of the Devil. Mr. Murray teaches a carnal seed doctrine of the flesh, and God is not carnal.

[Jeanie]

John 8:39-44: Did Jesus really mean that they were born of the devil?

John 8:39-44
39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born [bloodline] of fornication [of Eve, the first adulteress with the serpent/satan]; we have one Father [Adam was the son of God], even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of [genealogy―see note] your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
KJV

Gen 3:14-15
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. KJV

Note:

Not, as some say, that these were simply "of the devil" because they did evil. But rather it is speaking of genealogy, parentage. The context of the debate between Christ and these certain Jews in the Temple Treasury (John 8:20) shows that these Jews understood Jesus to be speaking of their bloodline, for in their apologia they mention "Abraham is our father," and "not born of fornication." These Jews were speaking of nothing but genealogy.

John 8:44
44 Ye are of [genealogy] your father the devil..."

of: Greek word #1537 ek (ek) or ex (ex); a primary preposition denoting origin (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote)

Matt 1:16
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of [ek] whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. KJV

Matt 1:18
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of [ek] the Holy Ghost. KJV

[Marshal W Earp]

jeanie wrote:

Pastor Murray is a wonderful teacher! I have learned more from this man in one hour than i ever learned in years in any other church!Have you ever noticed this man does not have to beg for money, or put on telethons begging for money?? No , that's because God blesses his ministry so that He doesn't have to beg for money to stay on the air. God blesses and takes care of those that teach His word with all truthfullness! So i would be very careful about calling him a liar or false prophet! He is neither.

The television miistries that beg for money also tend to have the following doctrines and practices.

1. Earth only 6000 years old, Eve ate an apple, rapture, firtility egg rolling, grove parading and quick like a rabbit on Yahaveh God's and Yashua Messiah's (Jesus Christ's) highest sabbath and holy communion day of PASSOVER.

All traditions of men and a part of Satan the Devil's six hundred and twenty million Revelation 12 FLOOD of pinocchios designed to het people into SPIRITUAL SMUTLAND and ultimately the LAKE OF FIRE with him.

[Mike]

My dad watches the Shepherd's Chapel every day. He continues to insist that I watch the show, so I acquiesced and watched a few shows. Mr. Murray is a well-read man and knows the bible, however, I cannot agree with his assessment about where the world is in the context to the "trumps" and events that have taken place. In fact, it is fruitless to try and predict such, as not even Christ could do this. It appears that most TV, radio and traveling evangelist seem to thrive on the last days and instead of the here and now. Live your life according to what John said; Love your neighbor and what Christ commanded; Love your neighbor. Anyone that lives by and promotes fear has truly missed the point of the New Testament and its teachings. God is a merciful God, hence Christ but is capable of great wrath, hence Hell. However, we are human, we will sin and we should ask forgiveness, repent and try to live as righteously as “humanly” possible. I think we should watch shows that promote God’s command to live righteously, love mercy and walk humbly with your God. God bless you all and try to spend less time in front of the TV and more time with your neighbors, you might just SAVE someone.

[Nimbletwig]

Mike wrote:

My dad watches the Shepherd's Chapel every day. He continues to insist that I watch the show, so I acquiesced and watched a few shows. Mr. Murray is a well-read man and knows the bible, however, I cannot agree with his assessment about where the world is in the context to the "trumps" and events that have taken place. In fact, it is fruitless to try and predict such, as not even Christ could do this. It appears that most TV, radio and traveling evangelist seem to thrive on the last days and instead of the here and now. Live your life according to what John said; Love your neighbor and what Christ commanded; Love your neighbor. Anyone that lives by and promotes fear has truly missed the point of the New Testament and its teachings. God is a merciful God, hence Christ but is capable of great wrath, hence Hell. However, we are human, we will sin and we should ask forgiveness, repent and try to live as righteously as “humanly” possible. I think we should watch shows that promote God’s command to live righteously, love mercy and walk humbly with your God. God bless you all and try to spend less time in front of the TV and more time with your neighbors, you might just SAVE someone.

You should listen to your dad.