North Texas Boy, 11, Drowns At Turner...

North Texas Boy, 11, Drowns At Turner Falls

There are 25 comments on the NBC5i.com story from Aug 5, 2008, titled North Texas Boy, 11, Drowns At Turner Falls. In it, NBC5i.com reports that:

An 11-year-old Texas boy has drowned at Turner Falls in southern Oklahoma . Reports said the boy was playing in a swimming area when he went under water Saturday and didn't resurface.

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jamie

United States

#1 Aug 9, 2008
That is so sad, we didnt know about the boy until we went to turner falls the following monday, and there were no life gaurds on duty at all.
Josh

Tulsa, OK

#2 Aug 15, 2008
The parents should've been present
Caren

Mustang, OK

#3 Aug 16, 2008
I agree with Josh, the parents or whomever that child was there with is just as responsible as the incomeptent lifeguards. Cell phones are a big problem in certain places. When and why is the responsiblity of someones actions always pushed off on someone else. That is what is so wrong with our world these days, everyone tries to make it someone elses fault when something goes wrong. Blame yourself for your own actions. Sure those lifeguards should be watching but in order to keep an eye on EVERY SINGLE child there would have to be one lifeguard per person at that pool. Come on, accept responsibility for your own actions and get real. Use common sense. Stop putting the blame on others when it is your own fault. Geez.
parent

Edmond, OK

#4 Aug 17, 2008
Sure whomever he was there with is responsible, and his death is something they'll have to live with for the rest of their lives. I'm sure they could have kept their eyes glued to the kid the entire time he was in the water. The person there with him looked away for only a minute. When they looked back, he was gone. I'm sure they weren't behaving the way the lifeguards were.

It's one thing if there were no complaints about the staff, but many people have complained about it. I understand if they were doing the best they could, but its disgusting to think that a bunch of kids were just goofing off and getting a summer tan as a young boy was drowning right under the lifeguard stand. That's where some of the money we pay to swim there goes - to pay lifeguards to help guard the water.
Concerned Parent

Nampa, ID

#5 Aug 17, 2008
I would like to begin by saying how tragic this situation is. I was there the day it happened and as a parent, I cannot begin to imagine the what his parents are going through right now. I cried when it happened and I have tears in my eyes right now thinking about it. I do however have a diffent feeling about the situation than many of you seem to have. First of all, there are hundreds of people out there swimming in the Blue Hole swimming area on a Saturday, and I don't think they could have enough life guards to watch every single person. When something this horrible happens, I think people tend to want to find someone to blame, and everyone seems to be pointing their fingers at these lifeguards. The question I have is why was it 45 minutes after the little boy had gone missing, before the people that he was with, suddenly remembered that he had gone down the water slide and never came back up? I just can't help but to wonder why they weren't watching him better. As a parent, I would NEVER just assume that someone is protecting my child. Lifeguard or not. Anytime I have taken my kids, neices, or friend's kids, down there to swim, I have always kept my eyes glued on them. I think there is needlessly negative attenion being put on the park, when this could have happened anywhere. I personally know a few people that have worked at Turner Falls as lifeguards and have saved people, but of course that doesn't make the headlines. Just my thoughts.
parent

Edmond, OK

#6 Aug 18, 2008
The negative attention is because they were not paying attention. They were goofing off and leaving their posts, and the drowning didn't seem to make a difference in their behavior, because two days later they were still acting in the same inattentive manner.
matt

Davis, OK

#7 Aug 28, 2008
my friend was a life guard that day and he took off work for a week because he was in shock, there were over three hundred people in the blue hole that day he cant watch everyone the parents should have been a little more alert its not his fault
lil john

United States

#8 Aug 31, 2008
well thats actually his fault but sad
southtxgirl

San Antonio, TX

#9 Oct 4, 2008
lil john wrote:
well thats actually his fault but sad


It is terribly sad that a young boy lost his life. It's a shame that alot of the posts are so worried about the reputations of the life gaurds. They are alive and well....a child who was under their watch is not. If there were that many people present there should be more life guards to observe the crowd. No excuses!if you are hired to guard lives you should take the job very serious, lives are in your hands.
vickie

United States

#10 Oct 19, 2008
its not one persons fault its everyones fault. if you can't notice someone drowning you're blind. everyone looks at whoever comes down the slide anyway. why didn't anyone notice he didnt come back up.
davislifegaurd

Sonora, TX

#11 Jan 25, 2009
parent wrote:
Sure whomever he was there with is responsible, and his death is something they'll have to live with for the rest of their lives. I'm sure they could have kept their eyes glued to the kid the entire time he was in the water. The person there with him looked away for only a minute. When they looked back, he was gone. I'm sure they weren't behaving the way the lifeguards were.
It's one thing if there were no complaints about the staff, but many people have complained about it. I understand if they were doing the best they could, but its disgusting to think that a bunch of kids were just goofing off and getting a summer tan as a young boy was drowning right under the lifeguard stand. That's where some of the money we pay to swim there goes - to pay lifeguards to help guard the water.
i am 16 years old and i was a lifegaurd at turner falls the day this accident happened. i was not at the Blue Hole when this happened, i was working the Falls shift from 11am-6pm shirt. you people need to look at this situation through our point of view. first off, we are lifegaurds, not babysitters. it IS our job to watch the water, but when you got 300-400 people in a swimming area 50 yards by 40 yards, 15 foot water, and 3 lifegaurds on duty, its impossible to see all the 11 year old kids goofing off. we saved many lives that summer and we ARE very VERY sorry for what happened. if you had seen us lifegaurds after the accident, we were all crying and we all felt like S***. we did our best and we tryed. all we ask is that you people give us some sympathy. we do our job the best we can. you have seen us at work. i was the short, stalky guy with the tattoo on my shoulders. we all have been too therapy for this, and we all had to dive down to help find the kid. i mean, how many of you would dive down in dark, stirred up water, looking for a kid's body? We did... it was scary but we did it for someone else, not ourselves. but we all are truly sorry and wish the best for the family. we are sorry but please give us a break. sorry...
Lifeguard Mom

United States

#12 May 19, 2009
Boys, try keep your heads up. There will always be those in life that will beat you when your down and then beat you down some more. If the tables were turned at it was THEIR son that was a lifeguard that day and they saw the pain their son went through along with the nightmares and tears, they wouldn't be spouting off about something they know NOTHING about. It is IMPOSSIBLE to watch every single person in a pool of 400 people. Get freaking real people! Hmmmmm, let me see. From what I have gathered...each of you boys SAVED probably on average of 20 swimmers EACH that summer. So out of approximately 100 saves, you had one tragedy that you will never, ever forget. I STILL say...GOOD JOB BOYS!
Lifeguard Mom

United States

#13 May 19, 2009
vickie wrote:
its not one persons fault its everyones fault. if you can't notice someone drowning you're blind. everyone looks at whoever comes down the slide anyway. why didn't anyone notice he didnt come back up.
Obviously your ignorant about the situation so quit embarrassing yourself and hop on over to another topic you MIGHT know something about.
lorena

United States

#14 Jun 12, 2009
hello my name is lorena and the young boy that died that day was my cusin he was the sweetest kid I've ever known swimming was his favorite thing to do his name was ANGEL the day he left this world he broke all of our hearts, I still can't believe he's not with us anymore. And I do blame the lifeguards why on earth are you guys even there after they were told that my cusin was lost they didnt even dare to swim under and see if he was there the police looked every where the last place they looked was in the water, Its so sad how lifeguards could not dive in the water to look for him. He left two sisters and his parents. MIGUEL ANGEL SOSA REST IN PEACE
I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER YOU
YOU'LL ALWAYS BE MY OUR HEARTS.
david also known as kiko

Melissa, TX

#15 Aug 5, 2009
this story is so sad i always go to turner falls and nothing like this had ever happened!!!!!
david also known as kiko

Melissa, TX

#16 Aug 5, 2009
hey peaple i feel sad what happened i always go and i never seen nothig like that well who ever is going this weekend ill see you there till then!!!!!!!!!!
susie coffeemate

Azle, TX

#17 Aug 10, 2009
Hey, to all of you whom want to blame the lifeguards..Shame on YOU...blame & point fingers>> GROW-UP! A Life was LOST. The drowning was the 2nd one in 2months..what the heck is going on there? I'am concerned that maybe the rocks have shifted in those areas,since both kids had drowned in the same place.It could be more than whats on the surface.Need pro divers to check & see! Lifeguards are always needed.
RWalker

Oklahoma City, OK

#18 Aug 23, 2009
I was at Turner Falls today. There were no less than six children ages 6 to 12 using the broken chain and barely readable DANGER sign to climb nearly to the top of the falls. The normal looking but incredibly stupid parents were sitting on the ground calmly snapping pictures and waving to their children. My daughter and I were horrified by their every step. The rocks at the falls have moss on them and are very slippery. The water was rushing over their feet and they were standing in such a way that if one above slipped they would all come crashing down onto the rocks... 40?? feet below. One of them was wearing rubber flip-flop shoes. This was on the far side of the falls where no lifeguard can see (especially if they are all sitting under the shade of the restrooms on the opposite side of the falls talking to each other and looking like incredibly disinterested teen-agers. There is a life-guard stand in this dangerous area, but it was unmanned. After 20 minutes of this display we walked around the pool to the lifeguards and informed them of our concerns. They looked so irritated with us. They said that it was all fine so long as they couldn't see the heads of the climbers from where they were sitting at the moment. We were incredulous and pointed out that we could indeed see the heads of several children. At this, "super life-guard" begrudgingly stood and walked away from us in a slow amble towards a young female worker gathering trash. They chatted a few minutes and he ambled around the pool to the danger zone. We followed. He went to the father of the climbing kids who turned to us and glared as if we were totally out of line. He waved his children to come down and I swear it was horrifying to watch as some of the kids approached the center drop off (that they couldn't see from above with nothing but huge boulders below them.) Ultimately they all made it down by clinging to the broken danger sign. The father then followed my daughter and I out of the area on foot just begging for a confrontation. We ran into a policeman driving a truck so we talked to him, which averted the ignorant parent.(And this father was a nicely dressed upscale looking guy, not some toothless redneck.) So we discuss the danger with the policeman, who was nice, but just shrugged his shoulders and told us of a 12 year old who fell to his death in that very spot a few years back. Kid climbed up, mom told him to get down, he refused, she went to get his dad, he's dead, head trauma, when they get back. I will say that we overheard the young lifeguard grumbling about our complaint to another young employee and that employee calmly said to him... "well, you are supposed to be here to protect lives." The overall impression at Turner Falls is that the locals believe the tourists are idiots and they don't go out of their way to protect idiots, but they do have a very efficient money collecting system as you drive into the falls.$10.00 per person. I left thinking what great evidence of neglect those parents have on their camera should one of those children get hurt. Posing above a danger sign at the top of a natural water-fall.... genius.
Cousin

Dallas, TX

#19 Jul 22, 2011
To all u people saying that the parents should have been watching they were that was my little cousin that drownd and all the kids were playin he went under the water to see who could hold there breath the longest and he had a seizur wall he was under the water and yes his grandma does feel like it's her fault that this happen but before u get on here saying ppl need to do this and they need to do that maybe u should get off ur phone or off ur computer and go watch ur kids
SadAmerican_11

Dexter, KS

#20 Sep 4, 2011
When we were there the lifeguars at the falls spent the entire time rolling rocks into the pool down a surf board.

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