OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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DoesntMatter

Perkins, OK

#44166 Jun 24, 2013
April wrote:
<quoted text>Tell Anonymous about it and then beat their a#$ for being a hack.
Nah, too many of them.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44167 Jun 24, 2013
The Comical Conservative

A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots

Attributed to Jeff Foxworthy:

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If you have to get your parents permission to go on a field trip or to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not to vote for who runs the government you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If, in the nations largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman in a burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher is cute, but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade school is perfectly acceptable you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with Food Stamps, WIC checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free cell phones you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If the governments plan for getting people back to work is to provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment checks, without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was diligently sought, but couldnt be found you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a wall-sized do-it-all plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself makes you more safe according to the government you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.

What a country!

How about we give God a reason to continue blessing America!
April Smith

Edmond, OK

#44168 Jun 24, 2013
That's a pretty far fetched story lol.
DoesntMatter

Perkins, OK

#44169 Jun 24, 2013
From the Oklahoman:

Access to physicians in Oklahoma, especially in rural parts of the state, could become even more limited when the federal health care law kicks in next year and thousands of previously uninsured Oklahomans obtain coverage.
Shortages of primary care physicians across the state could lead to higher patient loads, delays in visits to the doctor and more reliance on other health professionals such as nurse practitioners and physicians assistants when the new health care law goes into effect on Jan. 1, officials said.
“All of a sudden there’s an increase in the number of patients that have insurance,” said Jim Bishop, deputy executive director of the Physician Manpower Training Commission, a state agency that administers programs designed to improve medical care in rural and underserved areas of the state.
“There’s going to be so many people flooding doctor’s offices,” Bishop said.“It’s not going to make physicians happy.”
In 2010, Oklahoma ranked 43rd in the nation in the number of primary care physicians practicing in the state with 2,817, or about 76 doctors per 100,000 residents, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.
Andy Fosmire, managing director of the Rural Health Association of Oklahoma, said the shortage of primary care providers is worse in rural parts of the state, where access to health care could become more difficult under the health care law.
“There’s a lot of fear that 2014 is going to hit and all of a sudden 30 million people are going to appear at a primary care physician’s doorstep,” Fosmire said.“The potential is there. They’ll have to fill that gap.”
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#44170 Jun 24, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
Dream On Douchbag, Dream on!
You have a fascination with douches,
homosexuals, and claiming Topix is
removing your posts.

You have mental problems.

You should be denied a driver's license,
the vote, guns, and water.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44171 Jun 24, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
From the Oklahoman:
Access to physicians in Oklahoma, especially in rural parts of the state, could become even more limited when the federal health care law kicks in next year and thousands of previously uninsured Oklahomans obtain coverage.
Shortages of primary care physicians across the state could lead to higher patient loads, delays in visits to the doctor and more reliance on other health professionals such as nurse practitioners and physicians assistants when the new health care law goes into effect on Jan. 1, officials said.
“All of a sudden there’s an increase in the number of patients that have insurance,” said Jim Bishop, deputy executive director of the Physician Manpower Training Commission, a state agency that administers programs designed to improve medical care in rural and underserved areas of the state.
“There’s going to be so many people flooding doctor’s offices,” Bishop said.“It’s not going to make physicians happy.”
In 2010, Oklahoma ranked 43rd in the nation in the number of primary care physicians practicing in the state with 2,817, or about 76 doctors per 100,000 residents, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.
Andy Fosmire, managing director of the Rural Health Association of Oklahoma, said the shortage of primary care providers is worse in rural parts of the state, where access to health care could become more difficult under the health care law.
“There’s a lot of fear that 2014 is going to hit and all of a sudden 30 million people are going to appear at a primary care physician’s doorstep,” Fosmire said.“The potential is there. They’ll have to fill that gap.”
I heard on the news the other day that there are less people studying to be just a primary doctors. Most are going into a specialty field of medicine. The last place they want to end up at is in the rural areas of any state not just here in Oklahoma.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#44172 Jun 24, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
From the Oklahoman:
Access to physicians in Oklahoma, especially in rural parts of the state, could become even more limited when the federal health care law kicks in next year and thousands of previously uninsured Oklahomans obtain coverage.
Shortages of primary care physicians across the state could lead to higher patient loads, delays in visits to the doctor and more reliance on other health professionals such as nurse practitioners and physicians assistants when the new health care law goes into effect on Jan. 1, officials said.
“All of a sudden there’s an increase in the number of patients that have insurance,” said Jim Bishop, deputy executive director of the Physician Manpower Training Commission, a state agency that administers programs designed to improve medical care in rural and underserved areas of the state.
“There’s going to be so many people flooding doctor’s offices,” Bishop said.“It’s not going to make physicians happy.”
In 2010, Oklahoma ranked 43rd in the nation in the number of primary care physicians practicing in the state with 2,817, or about 76 doctors per 100,000 residents, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.
Andy Fosmire, managing director of the Rural Health Association of Oklahoma, said the shortage of primary care providers is worse in rural parts of the state, where access to health care could become more difficult under the health care law.
“There’s a lot of fear that 2014 is going to hit and all of a sudden 30 million people are going to appear at a primary care physician’s doorstep,” Fosmire said.“The potential is there. They’ll have to fill that gap.”
More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44173 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.
How many hours a day do you work at your job?
A good Doctor is booked solid. That goes for a primary doctor or a specialist doctor. So why would they want more patients to see. I know when I get sick but not sick enough to go to ER I don't want a longer wait period in getting into see a doctor. And all they people that will be added into the flow of needing medical attention that is exactly what will happen.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#44174 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>How many hours a day do you work at your job?
A good Doctor is booked solid. That goes for a primary doctor or a specialist doctor. So why would they want more patients to see. I know when I get sick but not sick enough to go to ER I don't want a longer wait period in getting into see a doctor. And all they people that will be added into the flow of needing medical attention that is exactly what will happen.
Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44175 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.


Yep, it sure has! In fact, unhappy enough they are going to do something about it and make more money in the long run!

If you think that then think again after you read more on the lastest discussion among many Doctors that believe otherwise...

Less Patients, More Money and Less Headache System Study already underway, lol.

Why Doctors Are Bailing Out of Health Insurance...

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/06...

Cash-only doctors abandon the insurance system...

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/...

The Cost Explosion of Obamacare about to hit home...

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/03...

$1 Trillion Dollars of New Taxes from Health Reform Coming...

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/0...

A few Doctors that I have had casual conversations with say they are looking at doing the same thing and that takes the Government completely out of him and his Patients relationship. Like Doc told me, "In God We Trust, All Others Will Pay Cash".
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44176 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
I have not always lived in Edmond. I moved here 2003. I lived in Enid before. I drove back and forth to a doctor here in the Edmond, Mercy, and Integrist [misspelled] area long before I moved here. Enid is not exactly a rural area but it is not booming area either. But there a plenty of rural town around the Enid area and I know plenty of people in and around the Enid area.
Now when I got sick last Aug late the doctors I ended up with were working around the clock. My primary doctor, my surgeon and who else was involved. When we found out my husband had colon cancer 2004 all those doctors were working around the clock taking care of patients. So I do know plenty of doctors that are not horsing around.
DoesntMatter

Perkins, OK

#44177 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>More patients with health insurance is going to make physicians unhappy? They most make enough money already.
Yeah, nice spin but that's not what the article said.
DoesntMatter

Perkins, OK

#44178 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>How many hours a day do you work at your job?
A good Doctor is booked solid. That goes for a primary doctor or a specialist doctor. So why would they want more patients to see. I know when I get sick but not sick enough to go to ER I don't want a longer wait period in getting into see a doctor. And all they people that will be added into the flow of needing medical attention that is exactly what will happen.
And this also supports what people have been saying about long waiting lines to see a doctor.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44179 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
Oh by the way my Mother was a nurse for 3 Pediatricians in their office for 25 years and they were always busy. They each had 1 day off a week and never ever turn a sick kid away. Many times Mothers hours was not a 9 to 5 thing. Never shorter hours and getting to go home early if you get what I am saying.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44180 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Or maybe a good Doctor is booked solid because they doesn't spend enough time in their office. When was the last time Edmond was considered a rural community, 1960?
In 1960 I was living in Enid Oklahoma and a Senior in High school.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#44181 Jun 24, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, it sure has! In fact, unhappy enough they are going to do something about it and make more money in the long run!
If you think that then think again after you read more on the lastest discussion among many Doctors that believe otherwise...
Less Patients, More Money and Less Headache System Study already underway, lol.
Why Doctors Are Bailing Out of Health Insurance...
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/06...
Cash-only doctors abandon the insurance system...
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/...
The Cost Explosion of Obamacare about to hit home...
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Columns/2013/03...
$1 Trillion Dollars of New Taxes from Health Reform Coming...
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/0...
A few Doctors that I have had casual conversations with say they are looking at doing the same thing and that takes the Government completely out of him and his Patients relationship. Like Doc told me, "In God We Trust, All Others Will Pay Cash".
Yes, there are a few Doctors that can cater to the rich, but I can assure you that it is the exception in the medical industry, and they don't work in rural areas that the article was referring to.

Look back at the article and give me a definition of the word could used in paragraph one and two. My definition is; I don't know if this is true or not.

I don't use the Oklahoman because I can buy better toilet paper than that. All they are about is scare tactics for the sole purpose of pandering to their owners agenda.

The only thing that scares me is what is this country going to be like 50 years from now.

So What

Mcloud, OK

#44182 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Oh by the way my Mother was a nurse for 3 Pediatricians in their office for 25 years and they were always busy. They each had 1 day off a week and never ever turn a sick kid away. Many times Mothers hours was not a 9 to 5 thing. Never shorter hours and getting to go home early if you get what I am saying.
Well the medical industry is not that way now. That is why so many have to rely on ER's.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#44183 Jun 24, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Oh by the way my Mother was a nurse for 3 Pediatricians in their office for 25 years and they were always busy. They each had 1 day off a week and never ever turn a sick kid away. Many times Mothers hours was not a 9 to 5 thing. Never shorter hours and getting to go home early if you get what I am saying.
Those were the good old days. To bad your money is more important than your health today.
So What

Mcloud, OK

#44184 Jun 24, 2013
DoesntMatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, nice spin but that's not what the article said.
“There’s going to be so many people flooding doctor’s offices,” Bishop said.“It’s not going to make physicians happy.

Translate this for me please.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44185 Jun 24, 2013
So What wrote:
<quoted text>Those were the good old days. To bad your money is more important than your health today.
Just explain what you are saying exactly when you are saying my money is more important than my health today!

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