800 new jobs for W. Michigan

The state is offering tax breaks to bring in more than 4,000 jobs to the state ? 800 of which will be for the west side. Full Story
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PRESIDENT OBAMMA

Sterling Heights, MI

#1 Nov 25, 2008
nnnnnn.......nnnnnnn.....nnVVV RRRROOOOMMMMMMM.......
time to START UP the ECONOMY..........
it's about TIME..........
GO GREEN JOBS..........
Bitelyboy

Muskegon, MI

#2 Nov 25, 2008
Anybody can talk about bringing jobs to Michigan. I hope this will happen.
Sandy

Knoxville, TN

#3 Nov 25, 2008
PRESIDENT OBAMMA wrote:
nnnnnn.......nnnnnnn.....nnVVV RRRROOOOMMMMMMM.......
time to START UP the ECONOMY..........
it's about TIME..........
GO GREEN JOBS..........
800 Jobs?????? Let't throw a party! Now, there are only 499,200 left to fill after 500,000 left the state. You're excited about 800 jobs???? Now who needs to get a life/?????????
Wendy

Greenville, MI

#4 Nov 25, 2008
Any job created is a good, considering thousands have been lost. The economy is absolutely horrible, yet it's ok for College Presidents to make 760,000 while school tuitions go up? This is LUDICROUS and makes me VERY angry. Perhaps they should learn how to take a pay cut to reduce tuition so people can get an education! There's no reason with this economy to make over 100,000 a year or more!
PRESIDENT OBAMMA

Sterling Heights, MI

#5 Nov 25, 2008
Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>800 Jobs?????? Let't throw a party! Now, there are only 499,200 left to fill after 500,000 left the state. You're excited about 800 jobs???? Now who needs to get a life/?????????
these are GREEN JOBS of the FUTURE geared towards eNERGY INDEPEN-DENSE that SHOULD spur more jobs starting HERE.OBAMA said there COULD be such jobs like that here and what is HAPPENNING..........

“Be Respectful”

Since: Jul 08

Grand Rapids

#6 Nov 25, 2008
Any new jobs are good. You have to start somewhere to get this economy moving up.
Sandy needs to get a life

Toledo, OH

#8 Nov 25, 2008
Sandy! You are a true idiot!
Yup

Richfield, WI

#9 Nov 25, 2008
PRESIDENT OBAMMA wrote:
<quoted text>
these are GREEN JOBS of the FUTURE geared towards eNERGY INDEPEN-DENSE that SHOULD spur more jobs starting HERE.OBAMA said there COULD be such jobs like that here and what is HAPPENNING..........
You need to learn how to spell. Also, please learn how to set up proper sentences before you go and post on forums. You make yourself LOOK like an idiot when you post paragraphs like the one above this comment.

The jobs were going to come anyway, it's not just because of Obama. But I'm sure no one could argue differently with you right? Probably because you have a closed mind when it comes to politics and the economy. Open your mind, learn about economics, and you will see a bigger picture.
Chad

Spring Lake, MI

#10 Nov 25, 2008
Bitelyboy wrote:
Anybody can talk about bringing jobs to Michigan. I hope this will happen.
I thought the exact same thing. At least these are manufacturing jobs and not those *high paying* part-time retail jobs that keep popping up. It's really annoying to work full time AND get benefits....
John Q Public

Grand Rapids, MI

#11 Nov 25, 2008
Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>800 Jobs?????? Let't throw a party! Now, there are only 499,200 left to fill after 500,000 left the state. You're excited about 800 jobs???? Now who needs to get a life/?????????
someone is excited about 800 jobs coming to the state and they get slammed. Sounds to me like its YOU that needs to get a life.

800 jobs coming is better than 800 jobs going. I'll take that any day.
Drew

United States

#12 Nov 25, 2008
This article is about nothing more than hype. They rave about 800 jobs coming to W> Michigan, yet more than 600 of these "jobs" are numbers only with no real grounding. While the developer may have plans to work with this property, it in inself does not create job #1. We have hundreds of buildings with millions of square footage of all grades of industrial and commercial space that is in ready to work condition with no need for renovation sitting empty in Holland, Muskegon, and Grand Rapids and yet although the developers and property management companies have been trying to fill these building with tennants for the last several years, the sheer fact that a building is present does not make a job. Not until an entrepreneur steps forward with a working business plan or an existing business like the ironworks in Rothbury that was mentioned steps forward with an expansion is there true reason to count viable added jobs. While this story does not detail the other 3200 "jobs" that the state (Granholm) wanted to tout as being "created" in other parts of the state, most of these were also based on rehab work to a building in a Brownfield clean-up zone to make it suitable or a vacant building being updated for potential business without any expresed committment or intent by a business to occupy said properties. Sorry, this was almost exclusively about real estate development, not job creation. If vacant buildings with the latest in technology and versatility for various applications of industry, not to mention great locations for exposure mean that business will certainly follow and occupy these buildings, then we in West Michigan should have an overabundance of jobs to choose from with all the available space we have just in this area.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

United States

#13 Nov 25, 2008
With the pool of talent around Greenville, they can start a Made in the USA brand of Refrigerators that would be sought worldwide. Employee owned, this company would not achieve large profit margins but margins none the less. They can be competitive.
Mike-Hastings

Garden City, MI

#14 Nov 25, 2008
Yup wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to learn how to spell. Also, please learn how to set up proper sentences before you go and post on forums. You make yourself LOOK like an idiot when you post paragraphs like the one above this comment.
The jobs were going to come anyway, it's not just because of Obama. But I'm sure no one could argue differently with you right? Probably because you have a closed mind when it comes to politics and the economy. Open your mind, learn about economics, and you will see a bigger picture.
What, and you are some type of perfectionist? Does not your poop stink? You need to quit bashing people and look into the joy and optimism that this type of news brings to people.

Since: Nov 08

Grand Haven, MI

#15 Nov 25, 2008
has granmole grabbed onto the credit yet?you know she was indispensable on getting these 800 jobs..
Bob

United States

#16 Nov 25, 2008
This guy can't even run and keep busy his 50 employee's he has working for him in Holland and Zeeland. You think he can keep 800 going. Will see? I hope he can, for Michigan!
lol

Belleville, MI

#17 Nov 25, 2008
yes she is!!!!!!!!!!
Working 9 to 5

Grand Rapids, MI

#18 Nov 25, 2008
Drew, good point on the "600 jobs created". These are NOT real numbers unless the buildings are occupied. Of course the renovation of the building should create some, albeit short term, positions. Nonetheless, I am sure there is plenty of gladhandling and backslapping in Lansing.

Unfortunately, in the manufacturing sector, I think its only the small shops that provide products to a variety of industries and endusers that are going to see the most growth in the coming years. So instead of the 800 jobs created we have to look at 10-15 new jobs at a time.
Truth be Told

Grand Rapids, MI

#19 Nov 25, 2008
whoo hooo,
800 jobs will for sure offset the 200,000 that are going bye-bye after the first of the year when the big 3 tank..

and yeah 800 isnt a bad thing
but trying to keep your "chin-up" regardless of reality just makes for an easy K.O. and ten count
pikepole

Kalamazoo, MI

#20 Nov 25, 2008
What I found interesting about this story is News 3 talked about it last night at 1800, and one of the companies looking at this building was a company that has its home office in IL Iceberg Enterprises. Something else that some may or may not know is this company also rents the old Franks Nursery building in Howe IN. just north of the IN toll road. When I worked for this company in the building in IN they warehoused product from a manufacturing company named Penguin in Sturgis MI which is to the west of the building being discussed. Penguin blow molds for Iceberg and Little Tikes toys and then warehouses and ships from the location in Howe. Also, the owners of both companies, Iceberg and Penguin, have been looking at this building for a very long time. One of the ideas for this building was to move the production of Penguin and the warehouse of Iceberg all to one building. But what is even more interesting is these two companies have laid off hundreds of employees in the past several months. SO I guess my question would be in twenty something when this building can be used again are they going to be calling all those people back or are they going to hire NEW people? I heard of a person who just went into Penguin last week and was turned away because he could not speak Spanish. Now what is wrong with that picture?
Hotelgal

Dallas, TX

#21 Nov 25, 2008
Any new jobs to Michigan is a good thing, they need to replace about a million more.

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