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#21 Feb 24, 2013
Larry wrote:
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First off, I make a nice living doing what I do thank you. My after expenses income (Profit) would be considered "middle class". Many of my fellow exhibitors make 6 figure incomes. We're not exactly doing high school gym shows, we're doing shows with entry fees of $350 to $700 for a 10x10 space. As an example, the Harrisburg Christmas Show in December has a space fee of $675 plus electricity.
And yes, I do take every subsidy available to me. because I am not ashamed to say I want to pay as little in taxes as I can.
Now about jobs. We live in a little area where jobs are scarce unless you want to work the snow blowers on Stratton Mountain. And those jobs are filled in July. So yes, she does collect unemployment AND SNAP benefits, and no, that's not "double dipping" as you call it.
Write offs of direct expenses is NOT a subsidy. It should definitely come off your gross income since you had to spend that money to run your business. So you speak of no jobs. I am just saying that I would do anything to make my own way before I collected foodstamps. If I had to snowplow, get a paper route, houseclean, babysit, etc., at least it would be an honest living and I could hold my head up high. Able bodied people who get second looks for using food stamps deserve it because it implies that they gave up and are lazy.JMHO

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#22 Feb 24, 2013
Larry wrote:
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First off, I make a nice living doing what I do thank you. My after expenses income (Profit) would be considered "middle class". Many of my fellow exhibitors make 6 figure incomes. We're not exactly doing high school gym shows, we're doing shows with entry fees of $350 to $700 for a 10x10 space. As an example, the Harrisburg Christmas Show in December has a space fee of $675 plus electricity.
And yes, I do take every subsidy available to me. because I am not ashamed to say I want to pay as little in taxes as I can.
Now about jobs. We live in a little area where jobs are scarce unless you want to work the snow blowers on Stratton Mountain. And those jobs are filled in July. So yes, she does collect unemployment AND SNAP benefits, and no, that's not "double dipping" as you call it.
You would think that for $675 they would give you the dang electricity. I do see it as double dipping. I am paying for her food AND her bills while I am trying to make it in this recession myself. Can you see my point of view?

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#23 Feb 24, 2013
dave = HASF. Rough patch gave it away.
Larry

Montpelier, VT

#24 Feb 24, 2013
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One last thought: An honest living is an honest living as I did not put down crafting as an occupation. I implied that "T" was not using her degrees if she was crafting, unless her degrees were in the arts. Being hispanic and in her 50's is a poor excuse and a victinm mentality. I hired a senior last year. There are jobs out there if you want to work hard enough. I would get a paper route before I collected foodstamps. Would probably earn more than the 78 bucks than she gets now too.
Ok Slush, one of her master's is an MFA. She was a jewelry designer for a local jeweler. Her work was featured in the OPRAH magazine and on the cover. So doing the arts circuit is not going to be a stretch. She's just not going to be working with fine stones.

She also has a mortgage to pay and the unemployment covers that. And since our property tax structure is smarter than Pennsylvania's she's able to pay those too. But food, gas, heat, etc don't get covered by the unemployment check. And she wants to be off it ASAP.

Now this recession hit in 2008, and was exacerbated by Ostupid. And we've both been here since then. I never recall you saying one word about struggling. Not... one... word. So I have a lot of trouble buying your story. You always told us how successful and busy you were.

Were you lying to us?
Larry

Montpelier, VT

#25 Feb 24, 2013
PS: I have a degree in engineering, and I don't use it either. There are 4 MBAs in our group, a dentist, many lawyers, and a chef.

Maybe they, like me, found their true passion, and it wasn't in the field we studied.

One of the lawyers is a wood turner. She can take a chunk of tree and turn it into a beautiful piece of one of a kind art. She says this is much more satisfying than dealing with the slime she dealt with. And she was referring to the other lawyers!
Larry

Montpelier, VT

#26 Feb 24, 2013
slush wrote:
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You would think that for $675 they would give you the dang electricity.
It doesn't work that way. Electricity can run anywhere from $50 to $100 for the show. That money is sent to the facility, not the promoter because they have to hire union electricians to run the wire and believe it or not, in some places, we're not allowed to plug in our own lights! We have to wait for a union electrician to come over and do it.

This only proves you're not as smart as you pretend to be.

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#27 Feb 24, 2013
Take my word, I struggled. I did not whine about it because I am no victim, although I do remember mentioning that the recession hit me hard. My question is: what makes you think that your friend is any different than others who have to pay a mortgage? What bothers me is that she now has another source of income(crafting),yet still collects unemployment because she is probably working for cash. People like her should be reported for fraud and if I knew her name, I would do it myself. I resent paying her mortgage and paying for her food all while she is collecting AND working. You should stop making excuses for her, esp regarding her ethnicity and age. No violins here, that is for sure.

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#28 Feb 24, 2013
Larry wrote:
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It doesn't work that way. Electricity can run anywhere from $50 to $100 for the show. That money is sent to the facility, not the promoter because they have to hire union electricians to run the wire and believe it or not, in some places, we're not allowed to plug in our own lights! We have to wait for a union electrician to come over and do it.
This only proves you're not as smart as you pretend to be.

Your last statement is very ignorant. Why would I care about the rules of electricity usage during craft shows!? I don't even go to craft shows. If you think that is what determines a person's intelligence, then that shows your simplistic thinking. Think about it.
Larry

Montpelier, VT

#29 Feb 24, 2013
slush wrote:
Take my word, I struggled. I did not whine about it because I am no victim, although I do remember mentioning that the recession hit me hard. My question is: what makes you think that your friend is any different than others who have to pay a mortgage? What bothers me is that she now has another source of income(crafting),yet still collects unemployment because she is probably working for cash. People like her should be reported for fraud and if I knew her name, I would do it myself. I resent paying her mortgage and paying for her food all while she is collecting AND working. You should stop making excuses for her, esp regarding her ethnicity and age. No violins here, that is for sure.
Slush, are you THAT big of an idiot? Maybe you should have questioned when her first show was! It's Memorial Day Weekend.

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#30 Feb 24, 2013
Larry wrote:
PS: I have a degree in engineering, and I don't use it either. There are 4 MBAs in our group, a dentist, many lawyers, and a chef.
Maybe they, like me, found their true passion, and it wasn't in the field we studied.
One of the lawyers is a wood turner. She can take a chunk of tree and turn it into a beautiful piece of one of a kind art. She says this is much more satisfying than dealing with the slime she dealt with. And she was referring to the other lawyers!
OR - none of you could make it in your fields. I know I've asked you before: what field of engineering is your degree in? Any engineer I know does very well, even in this economy.
Larry

Montpelier, VT

#31 Feb 25, 2013
slush wrote:
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OR - none of you could make it in your fields. I know I've asked you before: what field of engineering is your degree in? Any engineer I know does very well, even in this economy.
Do you understand English?

I have said many times I did quite well as a QC manager. But I found something I liked even better.

What is with you with "doing well"? I did "well" before and I'm "doing well" now.

We all find a passion. I found mine in the arts, and you found yours by being obnoxious, rude and phony.

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#32 Feb 25, 2013
Larry, I have refrained from saying this, but you seem like a very simplistic, very low IQ person. I could care less about your craft shows. They are just cheesy dust collectors to me.I also do not believe you have any degrees and are using the term engineer VERY loosely. My idea of an engineer is way out of your league. Focus on your crafts, you can't handle anything more complicated than that obviously.
Cabin

East Stroudsburg, PA

#33 Feb 25, 2013
slush wrote:
Larry, I have refrained from saying this, but you seem like a very simplistic, very low IQ person. I could care less about your craft shows. They are just cheesy dust collectors to me.I also do not believe you have any degrees and are using the term engineer VERY loosely. My idea of an engineer is way out of your league. Focus on your crafts, you can't handle anything more complicated than that obviously.
Everything seems simple for simple people. For a person who claims to have very little spare time you have long winded post.
Larry

Montpelier, VT

#34 Feb 25, 2013
slush wrote:
Larry, I have refrained from saying this, but you seem like a very simplistic, very low IQ person. I could care less about your craft shows. They are just cheesy dust collectors to me.I also do not believe you have any degrees and are using the term engineer VERY loosely. My idea of an engineer is way out of your league. Focus on your crafts, you can't handle anything more complicated than that obviously.
OOOHHHH! Slushie lashes out! You wouldn't know real craftsmanship if it bit you in the arse.
My IQ? I took an IQ test and I'm quite sure it's higher than yours. Because you display your intelligence every time you post. Heck, even Lefty has a higher IQ than you!

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#35 Feb 25, 2013
slush wrote:
Larry, I have refrained from saying this, but you seem like a very simplistic, very low IQ person. I could care less about your craft shows. They are just cheesy dust collectors to me.I also do not believe you have any degrees and are using the term engineer VERY loosely. My idea of an engineer is way out of your league. Focus on your crafts, you can't handle anything more complicated than that obviously.
You really are a biotch. You think you are high and mighty, putting down anyone who tries to converse with you. Better than that women who had a bad turn of luck, begrudging her some food because you 'work your butt off to get what you need." Even Larry's attempts to have polite and civil discourse with you are flung back in his face with your barrage of insults. It's lonely at the top huh kid?

Also, it's good to know that you care.

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#36 Feb 25, 2013
hennypennyhag wrote:
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You really are a biotch. You think you are high and mighty, putting down anyone who tries to converse with you. Better than that women who had a bad turn of luck, begrudging her some food because you 'work your butt off to get what you need." Even Larry's attempts to have polite and civil discourse with you are flung back in his face with your barrage of insults. It's lonely at the top huh kid?
Also, it's good to know that you care.
In this case, not high and mighty, just disgusted with a marketable and able bodied woman with 2 graduate degrees living on my money while she makes cash on the side. I do know the definition of hard work, do you? You conclusions are nothing short of biased and way off base. Larry was not polite, hence my last post. I am not lonely nor at the top. That is your fantasy illusion. Watch who you call a biotch and then try to get some class.

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#37 Feb 25, 2013
Also, it's good to know that you care.

I help those who help themsleves. I can't help victims who claim they can't get a job because they are hispanic and in their 50's. Why would I care and want to enable that?

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#38 Feb 25, 2013
Larry wrote:
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OOOHHHH! Slushie lashes out! You wouldn't know real craftsmanship if it bit you in the arse.
My IQ? I took an IQ test and I'm quite sure it's higher than yours. Because you display your intelligence every time you post. Heck, even Lefty has a higher IQ than you!
Honestly, do you know how stupid you sound?
Terese

Montpelier, VT

#40 Feb 25, 2013
Hello, my name is Terese and I am Lawrence's neighbor. Lawrence has told me about this board and I have read some very disheartening things.

To the person Slush. You do not know me, or who I am. Yet you feel you can judge me. Why? What have I done to you?

Let me tell you about myself. I was born and raised in Cali, Columbia. I do not know if you are aware, but there's been a civil war going on in Columbia for almost 50 years. The cartels and the government are in a war for the drug trade, and being from Cali, I can assure you death is common. I went to college in Columbia and got one Master's degree there. My husband at the time was a school teacher, but his life was threatened almost every day, so we packed up and left while I was pregnant. This was in 1990.

We arrived in Miami not knowing a word of English, but we were finally safe. There's not one person here who fully understands freedom as I do.

We had to learn English if we were to survive, so we studied hard every day while my husband bussed tables at a bar in Miami. I had a newborn little girl to take care of. We lived in one room for over a year.

Then we had a chance to come to Vermont as my husband was able to get a teaching job. I decided to go back to school and got my MFA degree. And joyfully I got a job as a jewelry designer. I can tell everyone here that the streets of America are truly paved with gold. All you have to do is look for it. And we were living the American dream.

Then my darling husband was killed in a car crash by a drunk driver with no insurance. I was left to raise a daughter with problems by myself. But I had a good paying job and could afford care while I was at work.
I am very proud to say I became an American Citizen in 2000!

Lawrence and Diane built their home next door in 2002 and we immediately became friends, even though they are republicans. He told me about having 6 months of living expenses in the bank, so I did that. I saved money for my daughters education too. Then the company I worked for closed. I was histerical. But Lawrence and Diane were my friends. I knew I had living expenses and money in the bank. And I lived on that money for over a year while looking for another job. Do you know how many times I heard the words "over qualified"? Even Friendly's said no. I ended up draining my bank savings as well as my daughter's education money in order to live.

I had no choice other than to get food stamps. I had no money. I turned off the cable as it was too expensive. We now don't watch any TV at all. If it weren't for my daughter I would have taken my own life. But I did get a job! I work at a grocery store for minimum wage,$8.50 an hour and I get 27 hours a week. That's just under $12,000 a year. I am called the working poor. So I do not sit around all day as some here say, I work! But I am eligible for SNAP so I take it. My daughter deserves it!

Now Lawrence and Diane are showing me about making money doing what I do best. Jewelry design. I am very good at what I do, and my work appearing in magazines is proof of this. I will do what I have to in order to get off welfare. But I'm sure happy it's there!
I WILL get off welfare!

I have met people like this Slush person many times in my life, and all I can say is I truly feel sorry for such an empty heart.

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#42 Feb 25, 2013
Slush should fell ashamed, but it won't.

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