Rand Paul Writes Giant Check to U.S. Treasury

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/21/ra...

Sen. Rand Paul cut a six-figure check to the U.S. Treasury on Wednesday in an effort to do his part to put a tiny chip in the federal debt.

The Kentucky Republican returned $600,000 in funds he saved from his Senate office budget in the last year, the Louisville Courier-Journal reported.

Its the only budget I control, Paul said at a news conference in Louisville.Its not enough, but its a start.

The $600,000 about 17 percent of his 3.5 million office budget is on top of another $500,000 Paul returned to the Treasury last year, according to CNN. Paul said the total unspent money hes returned to the federal government amounts to $1.1 million.

We watch every purchase, Paul said.We watch what computers we buy, what paper we buy, the ink cartridges. We treat the money like its our money, or your money, and we look at every expenditure.

The senator, a Tea Party favorite, noted,We are frugal from top to bottom.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
Just one question. WHY does any Senator have a $3.5 MILLION OFFICE budget???
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Feb 22, 2013
 
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Just one question. WHY does any Senator have a $3.5 MILLION OFFICE budget???
Good question but Paul still deserves kudos.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
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Just one question. WHY does any Senator have a $3.5 MILLION OFFICE budget???
That's easy. They vote themselves our money. The House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader get the use of a Government plane to go home. Most just get a small "business" aircraft, but Betsy Botox demanded a 757. And we paid for it.

Oh, and since they have their own aircraft, they're exempt from TSA pat downs.
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That's easy. They vote themselves our money. The House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader get the use of a Government plane to go home. Most just get a small "business" aircraft, but Betsy Botox demanded a 757. And we paid for it.
Oh, and since they have their own aircraft, they're exempt from TSA pat downs.
Would YOU want to pat down any of that crew?????
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Would YOU want to pat down any of that crew?????
Nooo, but I DO believe they should not be exempt from the very laws they pass. Let them go through the embarrassment that a 3 year old wheelchair bound girl must go through. Betsy Botox believes she the Queen of America or something.

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Good question but Paul still deserves kudos.
It's all theatrics.

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Over 1 million dollars returned is not theatrics, it is a lot of money. You need to get a life professor Bolshitzgee.
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Feb 23, 2013
 
New Jersey has a Congresswoman named Millicent Fenwick. She was against Congress giving themselves raises, so she returned any raise back to the Treasury. She scolded others who would also be "against" raises, but would donate the money to charity. She would tell them the money is not theirs to give if they opposed the raise.

She was a kind and gentle woman, who was trashed unmercifully by Frank Lautenberg in his first run for the Senate. He kept saying she was and old codger. I never liked Lautenburg from those days on.

She even became a cartoon character. Lacy Davenport in Doonsbury.

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Over 1 million dollars returned is not theatrics, it is a lot of money. You need to get a life professor Bolshitzgee.
I have a life, thank you, and I'm sure much more rewarding than yours. 1 million dollars is just a drop in the bucket and all for affect. I'm entitled to my opinion without your lame insults too.
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I have a life, thank you, and I'm sure much more rewarding than yours. 1 million dollars is just a drop in the bucket and all for affect. I'm entitled to my opinion without your lame insults too.
You add up drops in the bucket and you have a flood.

So let's put this in a scenario you understand. It's like you suddenly saying you feel you don't need your mortgage deduction, and decide to just fill out a 1040EZ. It's like you feel your mega business doesn't need to fill out any tax forms and you just pay the Federal taxes based on your sales. Because with every loophole you take, you're costing the Government money.

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slush wrote:
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I have a life, thank you, and I'm sure much more rewarding than yours. 1 million dollars is just a drop in the bucket and all for affect. I'm entitled to my opinion without your lame insults too.
Yes you are entitled to your opinion, even when it is wrong. How SURE are you that your life is 'much more rewarding' than mine?? I am SURE we probably have very different meanings of rewarding. Anyway, why don't you give the treasury a million dollars, just a drop in the bucket right?

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Maybe, but when you tell me to get a life, you deserve that response.

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Larry wrote:
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You add up drops in the bucket and you have a flood.
So let's put this in a scenario you understand. It's like you suddenly saying you feel you don't need your mortgage deduction, and decide to just fill out a 1040EZ. It's like you feel your mega business doesn't need to fill out any tax forms and you just pay the Federal taxes based on your sales. Because with every loophole you take, you're costing the Government money.
I understand that you like to put words in other's mouths. I understand that I pay alot of taxes all year long, only to be told at years end that I owe more and I know that you seem to have a takers mentality, so you would not understand where I am coming from anyway. FYI - I fill out personal and corporate taxes every year, so your analogy is not applicable here.
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I understand that you like to put words in other's mouths. I understand that I pay alot of taxes all year long, only to be told at years end that I owe more and I know that you seem to have a takers mentality, so you would not understand where I am coming from anyway. FYI - I fill out personal and corporate taxes every year, so your analogy is not applicable here.
And just why do you fill out those personal and corporate forms? To take as many DEDUCTIONS as you can. And that's the way the taxes are. People get to take as many loopholes as possible.

I do not have a takers mentality. I do believe we should have a safety net, especially during this recession. My neighbor lost her job after being at her company for 18 years because they closed their doors. She went from over $70,000 a year to unemployment. She has two master's degrees, and she is doing anything BUT sitting around feeling sorry for herself. She is actively seeking employment, but not many companies are recruiting 58 year old Hispanic women. As a matter of fact, there aren't many companies up here to begin with.

So my wife Diane is teaching her the in and outs of our business. She's exited about the potential and we have talked to some of the promoters we work with and they're letting her into the shows we do. She wants off assistance like there's no tomorrow.

Oh and by the way, T is an avid Ostupid fan. Her politics are 180 degrees from ours. But we're the absolute best of friends!

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And just why do you fill out those personal and corporate forms? To take as many DEDUCTIONS as you can. And that's the way the taxes are. People get to take as many loopholes as possible.
I do not have a takers mentality. I do believe we should have a safety net, especially during this recession. My neighbor lost her job after being at her company for 18 years because they closed their doors. She went from over $70,000 a year to unemployment. She has two master's degrees, and she is doing anything BUT sitting around feeling sorry for herself. She is actively seeking employment, but not many companies are recruiting 58 year old Hispanic women. As a matter of fact, there aren't many companies up here to begin with.
So my wife Diane is teaching her the in and outs of our business. She's exited about the potential and we have talked to some of the promoters we work with and they're letting her into the shows we do. She wants off assistance like there's no tomorrow.
Oh and by the way, T is an avid Ostupid fan. Her politics are 180 degrees from ours. But we're the absolute best of friends!
Sorry, but there are jobs out there if you want, esp to put food on the table. So "T" collects foodstamps and is on unemplyment? Is that double dipping allowed? And she supposedly has 2 masters degrees and she is crafting? It is a victims mentality to say that she can't get hired because she is hispanic and in her 50's. I lived through a recession too and I never went on foodstamps as much as I suffered, and I suffered. All sounds like a bunch of horse hockey to me.

BTW, I fill out those returns because I have alot of expenses associated with my business and a 1040 EZ does not fit. Direct expenses are not loopholes for those that know. Do you write off your crafting expenses or are you strictly a cash business that claims nothing? Now it all makes sense.
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Sorry, but there are jobs out there if you want, esp to put food on the table. So "T" collects foodstamps and is on unemplyment? Is that double dipping allowed? And she supposedly has 2 masters degrees and she is crafting? It is a victims mentality to say that she can't get hired because she is hispanic and in her 50's. I lived through a recession too and I never went on foodstamps as much as I suffered, and I suffered. All sounds like a bunch of horse hockey to me.
BTW, I fill out those returns because I have alot of expenses associated with my business and a 1040 EZ does not fit. Direct expenses are not loopholes for those that know. Do you write off your crafting expenses or are you strictly a cash business that claims nothing? Now it all makes sense.
First off, I make a nice living doing what I do thank you. My after expenses income (Profit) would be considered "middle class". Many of my fellow exhibitors make 6 figure incomes. We're not exactly doing high school gym shows, we're doing shows with entry fees of $350 to $700 for a 10x10 space. As an example, the Harrisburg Christmas Show in December has a space fee of $675 plus electricity.

And yes, I do take every subsidy available to me. because I am not ashamed to say I want to pay as little in taxes as I can.

Now about jobs. We live in a little area where jobs are scarce unless you want to work the snow blowers on Stratton Mountain. And those jobs are filled in July. So yes, she does collect unemployment AND SNAP benefits, and no, that's not "double dipping" as you call it.
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Sorry, but there are jobs out there if you want, esp to put food on the table. So "T" collects foodstamps and is on unemplyment? Is that double dipping allowed? And she supposedly has 2 masters degrees and she is crafting? It is a victims mentality to say that she can't get hired because she is hispanic and in her 50's. I lived through a recession too and I never went on foodstamps as much as I suffered, and I suffered. All sounds like a bunch of horse hockey to me.
BTW, I fill out those returns because I have alot of expenses associated with my business and a 1040 EZ does not fit. Direct expenses are not loopholes for those that know. Do you write off your crafting expenses or are you strictly a cash business that claims nothing? Now it all makes sense.
You are a mean spirited jerk, and pretty damn stupid also. T sounds like a very nice lady who hit a rough patch and is trying to recover. Your attitude makes it clear that you have not suffered anywhere near as much as you want us to think you have. If you did suffer, you would be on foodstamps yourself. Getting unemployment and food stamps at the same time is not double dipping. People with masters degrees do crafting, and it is not something to be ashamed of as you are suggesting. In case you haven't noticed, it is tough to get a job, and probably doubly so for a middle aged ethnic woman. There are people who run cash only businesses, and I don't think anything makes sense to you because I have been reading your posts for months and see you as nothing more than a mentally ill woman who has trouble understanding facts. Whatever. But why don't you lay off the middle age woman with the 2 masters degrees? When you are in the same situation as she is, just hope you don't meet any people like you.

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You are a mean spirited jerk, and pretty damn stupid also. T sounds like a very nice lady who hit a rough patch and is trying to recover. Your attitude makes it clear that you have not suffered anywhere near as much as you want us to think you have. If you did suffer, you would be on foodstamps yourself. Getting unemployment and food stamps at the same time is not double dipping. People with masters degrees do crafting, and it is not something to be ashamed of as you are suggesting. In case you haven't noticed, it is tough to get a job, and probably doubly so for a middle aged ethnic woman. There are people who run cash only businesses, and I don't think anything makes sense to you because I have been reading your posts for months and see you as nothing more than a mentally ill woman who has trouble understanding facts. Whatever. But why don't you lay off the middle age woman with the 2 masters degrees? When you are in the same situation as she is, just hope you don't meet any people like you.
Without going into personal details, I WAS in the same boat! This recession hit me very hard. I remember having zero income when this recession hit and having to eat bread that I made and drink water as all the food I had. Did I ever collect foodstamps? NO! Did I ever collect unemployment? NO! I suffered big time but ALWAYS stood on my own two feet. Disagreeing with living off the dole does not make me mentally ill, it makes me strong and more resolved to make it in this economy. I'm still not out of the woods yet, but I do the best I can without leaning on others. So Dave I do speak from very personal experience, but thank you for your input.

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You are a mean spirited jerk, and pretty damn stupid also. T sounds like a very nice lady who hit a rough patch and is trying to recover. Your attitude makes it clear that you have not suffered anywhere near as much as you want us to think you have. If you did suffer, you would be on foodstamps yourself. Getting unemployment and food stamps at the same time is not double dipping. People with masters degrees do crafting, and it is not something to be ashamed of as you are suggesting. In case you haven't noticed, it is tough to get a job, and probably doubly so for a middle aged ethnic woman. There are people who run cash only businesses, and I don't think anything makes sense to you because I have been reading your posts for months and see you as nothing more than a mentally ill woman who has trouble understanding facts. Whatever. But why don't you lay off the middle age woman with the 2 masters degrees? When you are in the same situation as she is, just hope you don't meet any people like you.
One last thought: An honest living is an honest living as I did not put down crafting as an occupation. I implied that "T" was not using her degrees if she was crafting, unless her degrees were in the arts. Being hispanic and in her 50's is a poor excuse and a victinm mentality. I hired a senior last year. There are jobs out there if you want to work hard enough. I would get a paper route before I collected foodstamps. Would probably earn more than the 78 bucks than she gets now too.

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