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Jan 6, 2013
 
Very intersting article:

http://news.yahoo.com/republican-party-seems-...

Republicans haven't had a consistent standard-bearer since President George W. Bush left office in 2008 with the nation on the edge of a financial collapse. His departure, along with widespread economic concerns, gave rise to a tea party movement that infused the GOP's conservative base with energy. The tea party is credited with broad Republican gains in the 2010 congressional elections, but it's also blamed for the rising tension between the pragmatic and ideological wings of the party — discord that festers still.

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The Republican party (or, as I prefer,'The Fiscally Responsible Party) has old and new guard...that's nothing new. What is new is the Tea Party movement's desire to return to the party's Conservative roots. In that world, deficits are unheard of, taxes are low and spending is under control.

Alas, as the nation has moved to an entitlement class, the masses looking for their handouts found a home with the democrats. As democrats never met a tax increase they couldn't support and steadfastly refuse cuts of any type to the size and scope of government, it's not surprising that those who suckle at the public teat feel better represented by the donkeys.

Such a decay of moral fiber is not unheard of, and has been the undoing of every democracy since the dawn of time. When folks realize that they can vote for their own financial gain, they do. And there is no turning back once there are more takers than contributors.

America is doomed in its current form. With liberal leadership, our debt will become unsustainable, taxes unmanageable, and entitlements untouchable. The path is clear...and that last four years have been a perfect blueprint of what's to come: Higher taxes, slower growth and exploding debt.

On a personal note, I applaud your giving credit to your cut and paste. That's growth. Now, let's hear some of your OWN thoughts on the matter. I'm up for intelligent debate should you care to try to muster.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
Jeff Woehrle wrote:
The Republican party (or, as I prefer,'The Fiscally Responsible Party)
If this was all it tried to be, then people would be flocking to the party. IMHO if they shrunk their platform, their tent would become a lot bigger and more inclusive.

I voted for Romney but did so with reluctance mostly due to conservative stances on social issues, reproductive rights and gay marriage among them. Like it or not, legal abortion is not going away any sooner than gun rights. And it is hard to make a logical case against gay marriage other than "because the Bible says so". If repubs focused their efforts solely on fiscal responsibility, I think they'd come up winners. They also need to do better damage control when people like Todd Akins start talking.

Interesting Steve Latourette interview in the Atlantic re Boehner. He's an outgoing rep from Ohio and cites some of the difficulties within the party that have weakened them.

"Are People Being Unfair to the House Republicans?"
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...

I hope the repubs hold exit interviews with people like Latourette and Olympia Snow. There's a good reason that good people are leaving. Repubs should listen.

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I agree that the platform is too broad and all encompassing. Abortion is a divisive issue, as is gay 'marriage.' Steer clear of both.

Republicans would pick up votes as a result, but in the long run I don't see much difference. The takers will still outnumber the givers, and if the issue is simply dollars, simple dollars will drive the votes.

Democrats have won. Liberalism will rule the day until there is no more America to govern. It's a sad situation, but inevitable.

Meanwhile, let's spend! It doesn't matter that we can't pay, we can still borrow!

Let the good times roll! ObumblePhones for EVERYONE!
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lotta wrote:
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I hope the repubs hold exit interviews with people like Latourette and Olympia Snow. There's a good reason that good people are leaving. Repubs should listen.
thst's one thing the dems never did, and they have lost many voters (like antiem!) because of that. Roe v Wade is terrible law, but the SCOTUS has pre-empted the discussion, so no need to go there. And gay marriage makes as much sense as calling a telephone pole a blender. The only real benefit to be had from marriage is some kind of tax break on federal income taxes.

I'd be fine with equal taxes for all, and if a whole bunch of people want to cohabitate and give legal rights to another whole bunch of people, I say, Go for it!

Gay "marriage" is a lawyers dream come true!*L*
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My printers are crying! gotta go!*L*

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Jan 7, 2013
 
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thst's one thing the dems never did, and they have lost many voters (like antiem!) because of that. Roe v Wade is terrible law, but the SCOTUS has pre-empted the discussion, so no need to go there. And gay marriage makes as much sense as calling a telephone pole a blender. The only real benefit to be had from marriage is some kind of tax break on federal income taxes.
I'd be fine with equal taxes for all, and if a whole bunch of people want to cohabitate and give legal rights to another whole bunch of people, I say, Go for it!
Gay "marriage" is a lawyers dream come true!*L*
oh!
My printers are crying! gotta go!*L*
It took a long time for me to actually go through the process of leaving. There are probably many registered Dems who have not voted that way in many years. The problem with the Republican party is that they still believe in basic decency and are unprepared for what actually is the state of our corrupted culture. I'm looking at the Libertarian Party.
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It took a long time for me to actually go through the process of leaving. There are probably many registered Dems who have not voted that way in many years. The problem with the Republican party is that they still believe in basic decency and are unprepared for what actually is the state of our corrupted culture. I'm looking at the Libertarian Party.
At present, the libertarian party is too small and weak to gain any traction as a governing party, but I think repubs would be wise to adopt some of it's platform, especially that in re: gay marriage and abortion. The goal should be smaller government in all matters, something repubs already somewhat embrace.

I agree with libertarians that gov't has no place regulating personal relationships and that abortion is a decision of conscience. I would no sooner marry someone of the same sex than I'd choose to have an abortion, but I believe these are choices that should be allowed others without my interference.

and note to jeff- you are far too young to be so pessimistic!

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Jan 7, 2013
 
LOL, lotta. Just realistic!

I agree with you on the Libertarian party. Back when I had the radio station (WPMR) I had a fellow from the local Libertarian party who did a Sunday talk show. I kind of fell in love with that party then, but I agree that it has remained too small and weak to make much difference other than pulling some votes from Republicans.

Having government stay out of personal business is a dream come true. Worth noting that democrats are not advocating that. Liberals are meddling in personal affairs to every degree that Republicans are, just in a different direction. Government should be out of those issues entirely.

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Jan 7, 2013
 
lotta wrote:
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At present, the libertarian party is too small and weak to gain any traction as a governing party, but I think repubs would be wise to adopt some of it's platform, especially that in re: gay marriage and abortion. The goal should be smaller government in all matters, something repubs already somewhat embrace.
I agree with libertarians that gov't has no place regulating personal relationships and that abortion is a decision of conscience. I would no sooner marry someone of the same sex than I'd choose to have an abortion, but I believe these are choices that should be allowed others without my interference.
and note to jeff- you are far too young to be so pessimistic!
Agreed but how do we get government out of these decisions or how to put the catsup back in the bottle?
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Jan 7, 2013
 
Jeff Woehrle wrote:
LOL, lotta. Just realistic!
Oh, pshaw lol. It sounds like you've already given up the fight. Hope and change, buddy:)
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Agreed but how do we get government out of these decisions or how to put the catsup back in the bottle?
Don't allow politica to mix with religion. Those two don't mix in polite conversation or government. The repubs owe no favors to a fictional moral majority. While that may play well in the southern states, imho it is losing ground for repubs elsewhere.

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lotta wrote:
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Don't allow politica to mix with religion. Those two don't mix in polite conversation or government. The repubs owe no favors to a fictional moral majority. While that may play well in the southern states, imho it is losing ground for repubs elsewhere.
I prefer leaders with moral character but don't want them to try and legislate it?
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Jan 7, 2013
 
Jeff Woehrle wrote:
LOL, lotta. Just realistic!
I agree with you on the Libertarian party. Back when I had the radio station (WPMR) I had a fellow from the local Libertarian party who did a Sunday talk show. I kind of fell in love with that party then, but I agree that it has remained too small and weak to make much difference other than pulling some votes from Republicans.
Having government stay out of personal business is a dream come true. Worth noting that democrats are not advocating that. Liberals are meddling in personal affairs to every degree that Republicans are, just in a different direction. Government should be out of those issues entirely.
I think I still have a WPMR t-shirt autograhed by T.D Williams,,,,
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AunieEm2 wrote:
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I prefer leaders with moral character but don't want them to try and legislate it?
No offense, but I don't think you'd make it as a Libertarian.

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No offense, but I don't think you'd make it as a Libertarian.
Why not?
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Why not?
Because it appears to me that you don't believe in personal liberty and self determination. Also, define moral and who gets to determine that? I prefer a libertarian stance such as that on abortion and other issues where they deem "good faith views can be held by both sides" and more importantly, their belief that government has no business there.

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Jan 7, 2013
 
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<quoted text>I think I still have a WPMR t-shirt autograhed by T.D Williams,,,,
No way! Hey, coming up on January 15...'it was twenty years ago today...'

Good memories...
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I disagree with those who say abortion is solely a woman's issue, and I also disagree with the idea of radical personal freedom. Government must protect those unable to protect themselves, and a 8.9 month old "fetus" sure falls in that rhelm, not to mention the current misreading of the constitution in Roe v Wade grants full rights to a frozen embryo and no rights to a baby half out of the womb.

Once the demoncratic party suppported slavery. It now supports abortions. Neither of these institutions touch me in any way, but that doesn't mean I don't mourn for a country that had a moral compass even a few short decades ago.

Oh well. Off to build my greenhouse. I no longer work for money (unless it's cash!). Let' see some crack baby obaamaphone voter take away my spuds!*L*

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lotta wrote:
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Because it appears to me that you don't believe in personal liberty and self determination. Also, define moral and who gets to determine that? I prefer a libertarian stance such as that on abortion and other issues where they deem "good faith views can be held by both sides" and more importantly, their belief that government has no business there.
I do believe in personal liberty much as yourself. Moral character? Doing the right thing even when no one is looking.

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