Google: The Democrat’s Private Intell...

Google: The Democrat’s Private Intelligence Agency

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#1 Feb 12, 2013
http://www.redstate.com/2013/02/12/google-the...

Yes its from a right wing site but I don't expect the other side to fess up.

Since: Sep 09

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#2 Feb 12, 2013
No surprise, beyond me why anyone with a half a brain and just a touch of caution would use cloud services to store their information. Once it is out in the cloud it is available to ANYONE and I don't care what the cloud provider says. Once they have it it's theirs.

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#3 Feb 12, 2013
There's that half a brain thing again...
Willoughby2

Bloomsburg, PA

#4 Feb 12, 2013
Oh quit it with the conspiracy theories, next there will a conspiracy that President Obama made the Pope quit, because.....well, the left hate religion. Really Em, you need to get a hobby!

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#5 Feb 12, 2013
Willoughby2 wrote:
Oh quit it with the conspiracy theories, next there will a conspiracy that President Obama made the Pope quit, because.....well, the left hate religion. Really Em, you need to get a hobby!
Do you really think the Pope is involved with Google? It seems like you might. In any event, I do not think Google is a good mix with government of a free people. That is my opinion not a conspiracy theory. Now Fistv is the computer expert and he has already weighed in. Do you profess to know more than he does? More likely its just your job to attack when even the slightest breeze disturbs your vision of Mr. Obama.Is that your hobby? Tell me why you think Google and the goverment make a good match instead of belittling my opinion.
loose stool

Brooklyn, NY

#6 Feb 12, 2013
Willoughby2 wrote:
Oh quit it with the conspiracy theories, next there will a conspiracy that President Obama made the Pope quit, because.....well, the left hate religion. Really Em, you need to get a hobby!
Your moronic jump to "conspiracy" shows the simple black/white, good/bad worlds progressives live in. Anybody with an IQ and a real job should be worried about a mestastizing government. It's not a conspiracy like in the cartoonish world you live in, but a red flag defined by our Constitution that should alert any half brained idiot's healthy disrespect for government, appearance of/and potential conflict that Em speaks to. Yes!
how about some facts

Drums, PA

#7 Feb 13, 2013
AunieEm2 wrote:
http://www.redstate.com/2013/0 2/12/google-the-democrats-priv ate-intelligence-agency/
Yes its from a right wing site but I don't expect the other side to fess up.
In the late '60s, I subscribed to both The National Review and The New Republic, both respectable magazines in those days, and felt that I was learning about national issues in a comprehensive manner. With those subscriptions came a deluge of mailings for political book clubs, solicitations political party fundraising, and issue lobbying, from both sides of the political fence.

The point is, this type of marketing analysis, albeit cruder in days past, has been with us for a long time.

There is a great leap in credibility between the fact that political parties use demographic information to further their electoral goals and the fantasy depicted in the Red State article of an unholy alliance between the Democratic party and Google. The culled information referred to in the article, which appears to simplistically suggest that Google is enabling Dem Big Brother to crush our privacy, is simply information that can be gathered from a combination of publicly available census data and network election night returns.

The availability of massive amounts of data and the tools to analyze it are here to stay. The Democrats have done a better job capitalizing on its uses, and, to this point at least, the Republicans have sucked at it. But the Republicans won't allow that to happen again.

When Republicans begin to expand their use similar tactics, Red State and their ilk will have to redefine this particular monster under the bed, and their own use of that same demographic and election information will tell them how to spin their articles for maximum effect.
loose stool

Brooklyn, NY

#8 Feb 13, 2013
how about some facts wrote:
<quoted text>
In the late '60s, I subscribed to both The National Review and The New Republic, both respectable magazines in those days, and felt that I was learning about national issues in a comprehensive manner. With those subscriptions came a deluge of mailings for political book clubs, solicitations political party fundraising, and issue lobbying, from both sides of the political fence.
The point is, this type of marketing analysis, albeit cruder in days past, has been with us for a long time.
There is a great leap in credibility between the fact that political parties use demographic information to further their electoral goals and the fantasy depicted in the Red State article of an unholy alliance between the Democratic party and Google. The culled information referred to in the article, which appears to simplistically suggest that Google is enabling Dem Big Brother to crush our privacy, is simply information that can be gathered from a combination of publicly available census data and network election night returns.
The availability of massive amounts of data and the tools to analyze it are here to stay. The Democrats have done a better job capitalizing on its uses, and, to this point at least, the Republicans have sucked at it. But the Republicans won't allow that to happen again.
When Republicans begin to expand their use similar tactics, Red State and their ilk will have to redefine this particular monster under the bed, and their own use of that same demographic and election information will tell them how to spin their articles for maximum effect.
I don't know where you get the cajones to compare the information Google culls from your private emails to "simply information that can be gathered from a combination of publicly available census data and network election night returns." http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-03-2...
Believe it or not there are people who don't believe that this invasion of privacy is inevitable. Google currently faces six class-action lawsuits because of its practice of sifting through subscribers' emails.

Since: Aug 07

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#9 Feb 13, 2013
how about some facts wrote:
<quoted text>
In the late '60s, I subscribed to both The National Review and The New Republic, both respectable magazines in those days, and felt that I was learning about national issues in a comprehensive manner. With those subscriptions came a deluge of mailings for political book clubs, solicitations political party fundraising, and issue lobbying, from both sides of the political fence.
The point is, this type of marketing analysis, albeit cruder in days past, has been with us for a long time.
There is a great leap in credibility between the fact that political parties use demographic information to further their electoral goals and the fantasy depicted in the Red State article of an unholy alliance between the Democratic party and Google. The culled information referred to in the article, which appears to simplistically suggest that Google is enabling Dem Big Brother to crush our privacy, is simply information that can be gathered from a combination of publicly available census data and network election night returns.
The availability of massive amounts of data and the tools to analyze it are here to stay. The Democrats have done a better job capitalizing on its uses, and, to this point at least, the Republicans have sucked at it. But the Republicans won't allow that to happen again.
When Republicans begin to expand their use similar tactics, Red State and their ilk will have to redefine this particular monster under the bed, and their own use of that same demographic and election information will tell them how to spin their articles for maximum effect.
This is not about marketing analysis. Its about Maxine Waters' statement that he has something on everybody.

In the late sixties, I was also reading Mother Jones and NOW publications.

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#10 Feb 13, 2013
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/10/s...

A multinational security firm has secretly developed software capable of tracking people's movements and predicting future behaviour by mining data from social networking websites.

A video obtained by the Guardian reveals how an "extreme-scale analytics" system created by Raytheon, the world's fifth largest defence contractor, can gather vast amounts of information about people from websites including Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare.

Raytheon says it has not sold the software – named Riot, or Rapid Information Overlay Technology – to any clients.

But the Massachusetts-based company has acknowledged the technology was shared with US government and industry as part of a joint research and development effort, in 2010, to help build a national security system capable of analysing "trillions of entities" from cyberspace.

The power of Riot to harness popular websites for surveillance offers a rare insight into controversial techniques that have attracted interest from intelligence and national security agencies, at the same time prompting civil liberties and online privacy concerns.

The sophisticated technology demonstrates how the same social networks that helped propel the Arab Spring revolutions can be transformed into a "Google for spies" and tapped as a means of monitoring and control.

Using Riot it is possible to gain an entire snapshot of a person's life – their friends, the places they visit charted on a map – in little more than a few clicks of a button.

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#11 Feb 13, 2013
The technology that makes our lives easier can also make our lives a living hell. It would depend on the users motives.
Willoughby2

Bloomsburg, PA

#12 Feb 13, 2013
The answer is simple, don't google!
loose stool

Brooklyn, NY

#13 Feb 13, 2013
Willoughby2 wrote:
The answer is simple, don't google!
Yes and no.
As in shopping malls freedom of speech issues
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/12/21/nyregion/co...
or summary execution by drone the law has to take current situations into account and apply accordingly.
Democrats in general will be in no hurry to introduce privacy to what is for better or worse the primary means of communication between private citizens being they enjoy the big warm wet blanket this administration is offering. Oh... did I say piss stained too? Why go to the toilet when Depends are free.
I guess as usual it depends on who's ox is being gored.

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#14 Feb 13, 2013
Willoughby2 wrote:
The answer is simple, don't google!
I don't google. Haven't for more than a year. No guarantee that others are safer. A simpler solution is to make the government obey the constitution.
Lee

Bloomsburg, PA

#15 Feb 13, 2013
Willoughby2 wrote:
The answer is simple, don't google!
To liberal, the answers are always simple. Says something for the quality and content of their thoughts.

I find it odd that libs have no problem with drone strikes, government snooping and big business sticking their noses into my tent and yet demand a "right to privacy" as the justification for abortion.(oh, I know that is gonna confuse some, but that is one of the two tenents used in Roe v Wade)

well, play nice, willo. I am sure you will be the first to scream when your ox is gored.{Pfttt!
how about some facts

Drums, PA

#17 Feb 13, 2013
loose stool wrote:
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I don't know where you get the cajones to compare the information Google culls from your private emails to "simply information that can be gathered from a combination of publicly available census data and network election night returns." http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-03-2...
Believe it or not there are people who don't believe that this invasion of privacy is inevitable. Google currently faces six class-action lawsuits because of its practice of sifting through subscribers' emails.
I do not question the evil of which Google is capable, but I do question the article's assertion that they are in cahoots with the Democratic Party to accomplish it. That was the piece of raw meat that Red State threw on the groud, without any justification for the commection with the Democratic information-gathering apparatus. These are the same types of folks who told you that Obama would shut down right-wing media outlets a few years back. Funny, nobody talks about that anymore. This sensationalist tripe will be tossed onto the same junk heap of BS journalism in short order.

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