Faster Vs. Cheaper: Oklahoma Turnpike Or Shunpike?

Full story: News on 6 Tulsa

News On 6 reporter Dan Bewley in Tulsa took the straight shot to Oklahoma City on the Turner Turnpike.
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Dub

Wichita, KS

#1 Aug 24, 2009
Good information... Wonder which one of them consumed more fuel, or if it was about the same??
t towner

Tulsa, OK

#2 Aug 24, 2009
Fun Story! Would love to read more like this.
just me

Tulsa, OK

#4 Aug 24, 2009
probably would've been more expensive than $4 since the machines can't count......or is this another way of making more money for the state as people throw more and more coin in til the lite turns green
frustrated Tulsan

Broken Arrow, OK

#5 Aug 24, 2009
I bet the old Route 66 was a smoother road then the Turnpike.
Me me me me

Edmond, OK

#6 Aug 24, 2009
I bet for truck drivers it would be worth it to take route 66 from OKC to Vinta then get on I-44, save over $30 in tolls.
underground

Fayetteville, AR

#7 Aug 24, 2009
I'm wondering about the times they recorded -- 1:12 on the turnpike and !:52 on 66. From exactly where to where? Channel 6 to Channel 9 front doors? From the points where 66 splits off from I-44 in each city?
just a dude

Tulsa, OK

#8 Aug 24, 2009
how come other states can pay off their toll roads and we can't????

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#9 Aug 24, 2009
just a dude wrote:
how come other states can pay off their toll roads and we can't????
A good question to which we will never get a straight answer. I realize they have upkeep costs, but once the road is paid for you would think a lower toll would be able to cover those costs.
orly

Broken Arrow, OK

#10 Aug 24, 2009
i go thru the toll on the creek ( by the hump bridge) about 4-5 times a day, i would say, not exaggerating, that the toll doesnt count your change 90% of the time. REALLY ANNOYING! I wonder how much extra money they make from it, Ive seen people sit there and chunk quarter after quarter in trying to make it turn green after they thru the toll amount in.
upstream

Tulsa, OK

#13 Aug 24, 2009
just a dude wrote:
how come other states can pay off their toll roads and we can't????
We can and have.
jdbl

Nashville, TN

#14 Aug 24, 2009
The time difference is 40 minutes, during which the engine is running and burning gas. A Toyota Camry with a V6 and automatic transmission is rated 22mpg city, 32mpg highway. For every town driven through on Route 66 the mileage drops 10 miles per gallon. If you figure an average speed of 25 mph during that 40 minutes due to driving through towns, that is roughly equivalent to an extra 16 miles at 22 mpg, or roughly 3/4 gallon of gas. At today's price in Tulsa that is $1.76. The shunpike driver saved $2.24, minus the value of his time (since I'm sure he was on the clock when he made the trip.)
Always an Okie

Houston, TX

#15 Aug 24, 2009
oddly enough, it was said during the toll increase debates that revenue was down because people weren't taking the turnpikes as often... I wonder why they thought that RAISING the costs would increase revenue... less and less people are going to continue to use it... seems like if they LOWERED the prices it would encourage people to drive the 'pikes and they could make the most money.
Research is your friend

Tulsa, OK

#17 Aug 24, 2009
upstream wrote:
<quoted text>We can and have.
From the Turnpike Authority's website:

Q: Why is the Turner Turnpike not free?

A: The people of Oklahoma voted in 1954 to “cross-pledge” the turnpike system. By this action they voted to commit the tolls collected on all turnpikes to pay the debt service, maintenance and expansion for the turnpike system, not each individual road.

Q: When will the turnpikes be paid off?

A: The bond debt is currently $1.2 billion and is scheduled for paid-off in 2028, assuming no additional debt is incurred.
Im here and your not

Powder Springs, GA

#18 Aug 24, 2009
People are using the turnpikes less because people are doing less traveling. Staying home.
KMac-No 1

United States

#19 Aug 24, 2009
I know I have reduced the number of times I take the turnpike. I stop & think is it really worth the $ to get there a few minutes quicker. Most of the time, not worth it to me & I take the non-toll route.
KMac-No 1

United States

#20 Aug 24, 2009
orly wrote:
i go thru the toll on the creek ( by the hump bridge) about 4-5 times a day, i would say, not exaggerating, that the toll doesnt count your change 90% of the time. REALLY ANNOYING! I wonder how much extra money they make from it, Ive seen people sit there and chunk quarter after quarter in trying to make it turn green after they thru the toll amount in.
I agree, I have trouble with the machine counting my money properly too. I put in the specified amount & if it doesn't turn green I don't continue to plug money into it, I just go. So far I've never received a citation & hope I never do.

Since: Jul 09

Tulsa, OK

#21 Aug 24, 2009
My employer says my time is worth approx $45 per hour. Therefore, 80 minutes is worth about $60. Makes perfect sense to take the turnpike and pay the extra $8 to bring value to the other $60.

I guess if you're on your own dime and really have nothing better to do with your time and $8 makes or breaks the bank, then might as well take the shunpike. But as some have already commented, you'll use more gas that way, and then at $4 a gallon gas, it starts to become almost even in cost.
Geez

Tulsa, OK

#22 Aug 24, 2009
I am wondering if Dan ran into any long delays of road work on the turnpike like I always do. Depending on what time of day-you could sit and idol for 20-25 minutes just trying to get through the construction. I am tired of paying all the fees only for constant road work on the Turnpike and delays-not to mention all the accidents that continually occur with any rain/snow/ice that happens! If you add in all that, I am wondering if the shunpike actually is the way to go?
John

Tulsa, OK

#23 Aug 24, 2009
I haven't made the trip in 1 hour and 12 minutes, there always seems to be road work, which slows you down alot. Or two trucks that are going 60 miles an hour side beside each other and when they hit a hil, they really slow down then!!
frustrated Tulsan

Broken Arrow, OK

#24 Aug 24, 2009
Thats not necessarily accurate. Because the turnpike is a higher speed limit. Most cars get optimal MPG at about 60 MPG. Anything over that your gas mileage starts to drop due to the extra RPM of the engine and temp changes in the transmission. I have tested driving an additional distance at slower speeds vs a turnpike.. Just to get a scenic view. It took me about an hour longer but just a little less gas than the Turnpike
jdbl wrote:
The time difference is 40 minutes, during which the engine is running and burning gas. A Toyota Camry with a V6 and automatic transmission is rated 22mpg city, 32mpg highway. For every town driven through on Route 66 the mileage drops 10 miles per gallon. If you figure an average speed of 25 mph during that 40 minutes due to driving through towns, that is roughly equivalent to an extra 16 miles at 22 mpg, or roughly 3/4 gallon of gas. At today's price in Tulsa that is $1.76. The shunpike driver saved $2.24, minus the value of his time (since I'm sure he was on the clock when he made the trip.)

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