OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39343 May 5, 2013
Ha ha...made up your mind to taylor the facts and outcomes to your perceived wishes is more like it... when you call the President King Obama...

Especially after an election...when your side lost...
Stephen

United States

#39344 May 5, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, I've heard a lot of your sides talking points on this thread and you have already made up your mind too...
The Quick Response team couldn't even make it in less than 6 hours...you know the laws of physics apply to the them too.
And dealing with the ME they are station in Avenio, Italy...4 1/2 hours to Iraq..almost 6 hours to Libya...a lot can happen...maybe we need a brigade stationed at all embassies...consulates...missi ons...
And more than likely alot of them are staffed by the CIA...so really having to check what exactly is going on maybe expecting instant answers to your questions at the time was a little ridiculous. Not everything is so need to know so Fox news can go on a hunting expedition. Especially the House when Repubs put Backmann on the House Intelligence Committee. LOL
8 months waiting for answers is a huge difference from your claim of "instant" answers! The families of the fallen have a need to know you azzwipe. If it was your son or daughter murdered by terrorist then you would want to know the truth, or are you like Tamerlan and Dshokhar's mother and want your child to be a martyr for the cause?

You are a sicko with a warped mental compass of right and wrong!
Another thing is there was a quick response team who could have made the effort to save our people but they were denied because the White House and the State Department would have had to declare the incident a terrorist attack and they fought that tooth and nail because Obama was in a election and had claimed "Osama Bin Laden is dead and Al Quaeda is on the run" but AQ was far from beaten and we know since the Boston Bombings that the bombers were involved with the AQ the bombs were a specialty of AQ.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39345 May 5, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
Tamara do you remember justaliar claiming it was Christian white supremacist who were responsible for killing the D.A. and his wife in Texas which was FALSE, do you remember justaliar claiming that the Boston Bombers were probably christain white supremacist who were responsible since Christians were responsible for more killings than Islamist? That came right out of a liberal blog word for word. Again FALSE.
Justaliar is a political hack nothing more and nothing less.
Yes.
Zane

United States

#39346 May 5, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Ha ha...made up your mind to taylor the facts and outcomes to your perceived wishes is more like it... when you call the President King Obama...
Especially after an election...when your side lost...
Stupid post. Neither side won but I guarantee America lost. But there you go again laughing like the crazy loon you are.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39347 May 5, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>
Well since Iraq didn't have WMD....and we went to war for that reason...it seems to me that many in the US can get into an uproar over crazy things too.
In fact, the US has always had their fingers in some funny places for a good long while...especially if they happen to have oil there.
I don't have to stir up trouble in my backyard...really when it concerns any religion trouble always follows...no matter what country or what religion..
Many did get into an uproar over The first Iraq deal. What were you doing? My guess would be you were to busy..... Oh I let this one rest tonite!
Zane

United States

#39348 May 5, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
Tamara do you remember justaliar claiming it was Christian white supremacist who were responsible for killing the D.A. and his wife in Texas which was FALSE, do you remember justaliar claiming that the Boston Bombers were probably christain white supremacist who were responsible since Christians were responsible for more killings than Islamist? That came right out of a liberal blog word for word. Again FALSE.
Justaliar is a political hack nothing more and nothing less.
Justaliar also claimed the West Texas fertilizer plant was somehow connected to white Christians, just crazy stuff constantly from her. She doesn't care how off the wall her accusations are. No wonder people learn to regard her as the LIAR she is.
Stephen

United States

#39349 May 5, 2013
Zane wrote:
<quoted text>
Justaliar also claimed the West Texas fertilizer plant was somehow connected to white Christians, just crazy stuff constantly from her. She doesn't care how off the wall her accusations are. No wonder people learn to regard her as the LIAR she is.
justaliar is justa doing her "job" as a progressive lib hack.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39350 May 5, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>
You have some funny thinking..Tamara..since you love to point out that I've been over there a time or two...Yes you can make the Muslim crazies in the ME riot when you burn the Koran...
All the way from your computer in OKC you know.....lol
You don't know anything except from the know nothings on these board or Fox news...
If you knew anything, you might have known just how far the 'help' was from Benghazi, and that it was a mission that had some 'weird' things going on about Syria...arms and fighters....Which would make it a high target for the fighters backed by Saudi to take out..And I believe I posted a couple of times on here of that fact.
Plus most of this was reported by a blog called 'Emptywheel' before the mission or the ambassador was even attacked or the staff were killed. Cause not much captures your attention that doesn't have to do with Medicare.
What is the difference here? You are interested in healthcare and you getting the best health insurance to take care of your needs and me being interested in what is going on with medicare? I myself see no difference. But I do realize that you think people that has gotten to the age to be on Medicare should not get the same care for something requiring serious medical care. It just amazes me how you think because before I ever got close to being on Medicare I never ever gave one resenting thought towards the care people got while on Medicare. I just hope that when ever you reach that age and medicare is still in play that the younger generation are not as resentful as you. If Obamacare is a big interest to you then why is it so strange that medicare is a big interest to me. Mainly since the government both Democrats and Republicans is jacking medicare around! You better pray, darn you don't believe in that, "HOPE" your illness never becomes to costly in the future. The way things are going you might be told that you are not cost effective and take a pain pill for the pain!
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#39351 May 5, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
we know since the Boston Bombings that the bombers were involved with the AQ the bombs were a specialty of AQ.
The connection must be true because no one else on the planet
can build a bomb but AQ. The bombers couldn't have possibly
learned how elsewhere.

Great logic shown there.
Great minds at work.
Maddy

United States

#39352 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Many did get into an uproar over The first Iraq deal. What were you doing? My guess would be you were to busy..... Oh I let this one rest tonite!
Hello Tamara, I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier to your kind post. I read it with the intent to respond thanking you but then I read the lies justminute posted and I saw red! I just hate liars!

You had posted about the length of time it took for medicare to process and finalize a billing and I read in an article today something you might find interesting. According to the Center for Investigative Reporting review of Internal Veterans affairs documents, veterans with disability benefits wait times are up 2000% under the Obama Administration. Your question about how responsive medicare will be under ObamaCare changes, I would have to side with others who believe it will be worse, much worse. No policies I've seen of any consequence this administration has put into effect has worked the way they said it would work.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39353 May 5, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
<quoted text>
Well since Iraq didn't have WMD....and we went to war for that reason...it seems to me that many in the US can get into an uproar over crazy things too.
In fact, the US has always had their fingers in some funny places for a good long while...especially if they happen to have oil there.
I don't have to stir up trouble in my backyard...really when it concerns any religion trouble always follows...no matter what country or what religion..
One more thing, since the US did go into Iraq (Desert Storm) under Bush Sr. I just wish we had finished the job and hopefully we would not had to go back in under Bush Jr.
Stephen

United States

#39354 May 5, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
<quoted text>
The connection must be true because no one else on the planet
can build a bomb but AQ. The bombers couldn't have possibly
learned how elsewhere.
Great logic shown there.
Great minds at work.
Pull your head out of your azz long enough to find out Tamerlan was posting AQ videos on his FB page and was accessing radical islamist websites on his computer constantly seem to be his only interest other than porn. He also went back to an area to visit "family" which is a hot bed of AQ activity.

Great minds do have to work unlike yours which post nonsense and lies.
Zane

United States

#39355 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>One more thing, since the US did go into Iraq (Desert Storm) under Bush Sr. I just wish we had finished the job and hopefully we would not had to go back in under Bush Jr.
Yep, I remember Misty saying the same thing and the reason she said is that they didn't have approval to do more as that was the mandate, and the mandate was limited. So Bush Sr. only completed the mandate. Misty said it was a mistake because the lost of life would have been much less than what it ended up being when we went back to Iraq.

Not the first time politicians screwed up a military plan of action.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39356 May 5, 2013
Maddy wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Tamara, I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier to your kind post. I read it with the intent to respond thanking you but then I read the lies justminute posted and I saw red! I just hate liars!
You had posted about the length of time it took for medicare to process and finalize a billing and I read in an article today something you might find interesting. According to the Center for Investigative Reporting review of Internal Veterans affairs documents, veterans with disability benefits wait times are up 2000% under the Obama Administration. Your question about how responsive medicare will be under ObamaCare changes, I would have to side with others who believe it will be worse, much worse. No policies I've seen of any consequence this administration has put into effect has worked the way they said it would work.
I am not looking for things to get better for medicare or anything to do with veterans. For some odd reason after these people go to war to protect this country and are treated so poorly when they come home I have never understood. The only real experience I had with a VA hospital is when my Grandfather was in one for kidney cancer. I was 18 at the time. Ever since then I have never heard any good reports about the VA hospital system. I talked to a Vet the other day. He had one knee replacement and was needing another one. I ask when will he be going in and his answer was since the VA was doing it he was not able to get for 2 years. I was shocked beyond words. But what scares me the most is that maybe how our whole care system may end up in the future.
What is so funny about the paper work on that bill is I had gotten the paper work from my supplement ins. and the bill from the hospital and it has been done and paid for before 2013 ever got started. So to be getting medicare paper work on it yesterday just seemed to rather slow.
Maddy

United States

#39357 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I am not looking for things to get better for medicare or anything to do with veterans. For some odd reason after these people go to war to protect this country and are treated so poorly when they come home I have never understood. The only real experience I had with a VA hospital is when my Grandfather was in one for kidney cancer. I was 18 at the time. Ever since then I have never heard any good reports about the VA hospital system. I talked to a Vet the other day. He had one knee replacement and was needing another one. I ask when will he be going in and his answer was since the VA was doing it he was not able to get for 2 years. I was shocked beyond words. But what scares me the most is that maybe how our whole care system may end up in the future.
What is so funny about the paper work on that bill is I had gotten the paper work from my supplement ins. and the bill from the hospital and it has been done and paid for before 2013 ever got started. So to be getting medicare paper work on it yesterday just seemed to rather slow.
I'm fairly certain we will all be shocked when this is all said and done. To many doctors, actuaries and now even high ranking democrats are talking about how dysfunctional ObamaCare is. Sad because real people with real problems are going to be hurt badly because of politicians playing with our healthcare. You did know that congress is exempt from ObamaCare didn't you? They make laws and mandates we the American public must live with but exempt themselves and their families!
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39358 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>One more thing, since the US did go into Iraq (Desert Storm) under Bush Sr. I just wish we had finished the job and hopefully we would not had to go back in under Bush Jr.
Bush Sr. knew that we had no business going all the way into Iraq. Look at it now, the Iraqi's hate us, it's almost at civil war. Wow, that spreadin democracy thingee sure doesn't work...

Not to mention that it's making a sure lock on people that doesn't like us...

The region: Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan..oh...but Saudi's are our friends....where all the hijackers are from...

Now Eqypt, Syria...now we are going further into Africa with our drones...

But Republican armchair diplomats and military experts are sure a dime a dozen around here...and haven't been right about a single thing yet...
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39359 May 5, 2013
All of you Republican naysayer's about Obamacare are just saying what Repubs said during Johnson's Medicare and Medicaid advancements...or when FDR brought in Social Security...

Because the Repubs in D.C. knew once something like Obamacare, which is their plan, by the way, get's established like SS, Medicare and Medicaid the American people once it goes online next year will like it...

And they will like it a whole bunch more when it's worked further into a national health insurance program like Medicare for all...

You Repubs had years and years to solve the health insurance problem and all you have done in these years was to ignore a festering problem that was never going away...

If your not part of the solution, then your part of the problem..so either lead the American people or get out of the way. The Republican solution is to do nothing, so we are getting you out of the way...
WarForOil

Rowlett, TX

#39360 May 5, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
Great minds do have to work unlike yours which post nonsense and lies.
Great minds such as yours are an embarrassment to
even ordinary commoners. Great minds were sure
Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction too.

Tell us more about how bomb making can only be
learned from AQ.
Dano

United States

#39361 May 5, 2013
Which party has had control over congress considerably longer than the other? Surely the party which had control had to the greatest extent responsibility to address America's issues?
Dano

United States

#39362 May 5, 2013
I didn't read any posts which claimed only Al Qaida was capable of making bombs so is that just random misinformation or are you genuinely confused on what has actually been posted?

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