A Voice In The Wilderness

A Voice In The Wilderness

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#1 May 4, 2008
This is one of the honest discernment ministries that helped me in my transition out of the apostate religious system, the organized "church"

MANY good articles here steeped in the true word and wisdom of God in discernment.

If you're still locked into "church" and still you are sensing something isn't right, please read these messages and most of all pray for guidance, wisdom and discernment.



#2 May 12, 2008
9"When you enter the land which the LORD your God gives you, you shall not learn to imitate the detestable things of those nations. Deu 19


#3 May 12, 2008
"The Crucified Ones"


24: "Then Jesus said to his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

25For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it". Matthew 16

If we are not growing and becoming fruitful vines, then we are not manifesting forth the life of Christ in our lives as we should. We are to "deny" our "self", or "flesh" nature, and crucify it, so that the life of Jesus Christ, may have full sway in our lives.

"IF" we are being led,(under the control) of the Spirit, then He will give us THE POWER to be the sons of God. For without Him, we can do nothing.

We cannot "change" ourselves, by works or efforts of the flesh. In the end, God will NOT allow us to take ANY credit for changing our carnal nature. ALL He requires of us is obedience and submission in LOVE. Then and only then, can He work any change in our lives.

The Cross is an instrument of death. Jesus "called out ones", are to live a crucified life to reach ZION. ZION is the place, if we attain to it, by obedience and submission, is where JESUS is IT in our lives, The All and All, and nothing else matters, and we will sacrifice ALL of ourselves to Him and for Him.

If our carnal natures are not crucified day by day, then something is amiss. Jesus desires to impart his nature, character and attributes to us and incorporate them into the very essence of our beings.


#4 May 13, 2008
"The "crucified ones" -
Charles Elliott Newbold, Jr.

Chapter 1 - Three Feasts And Three Courts

Why did God ordain that Israel should celebrate the three main feasts of Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles? And why are there three courts in the Tabernacle of Moses in the wilderness as well as in Solomon's Temple? Are these simply capricious thoughts on the part of God? Certainly God had a plan in mind. Certainly He has a purpose for these. These were a pattern for something to come.

The feasts, the three courts, all of the furnishings and utensils in the Tabernacle and Temple, the rituals--I believe that all of these speak of things unique in His Kingdom that were fulfilled one way or the other in Jesus Christ. First, He was Savior in fulfillment of Passover. Then, He was Sanctifier in the gift of His Holy Spirit in the fulfillment of Pentecost. Finally, He will come again as Glorifier in His glorified body with His glorified holy ones at His side in the fulfillment of Tabernacles.

The Old Testament symbols are rich in what they reveal to us today. Thank God as we approach that great and terrible day of the Lord that these truths are being revealed to the church and are calling us onward and upward into Him as He prepares His bride for His coming. The preparation of the bride is the preparation for His coming. They work together.

These three feasts and courts also reveal where different members of the body of Christ are in terms of their relationship with Him. It is important that we understand that we can have varying degrees of relationship with Him--not that He would have it that way, but that we, nevertheless, in our stubborn and willful ways, have it that way. This chapter explores how I see these differences in our relationship to Christ."


#5 May 15, 2008
Categories of Believers

While there are many denominations and variations of groups in Christianity, I basically see five categories of believers that spread across all of these groups. They are liberals, evangelicals, Pentecostals, charismatics, and an emerging group I will call, for the want of a better term, the "crucified ones."

For the most part, liberals, evangelicals, Pentecostals, and charismatics remain a part of institutional Christianity. While most denominations tend to fit into one of these categories, we often find a mix of individuals holding to these different persuasions within them all. These individuals differ from one another in terms of their doctrines which inclines them toward different interests.

The following description is simplistic and general. Space or purpose does not permit fuller explanation.

Liberals have generally believed in a social gospel and have been inclined toward humanism and social reform.

Evangelicals have preached the blood atonement of Jesus Christ, the necessity of the rebirth experience, and have been inclined toward fundamentalism.

Both Pentecostals and charismatics have had in common the belief in the baptism in the Holy Spirit, speaking in unknown tongues, and in various other gifts of the Spirit. Otherwise, there has been a vast difference between these two groups.

Pentecostals have preached holiness which, for them, was attained through systems of religious codes designed to control the outward behavior of their constituents. They have been, therefore, inclined toward legalism.

Charismatics (especially among those in "Word" churches) have preached faith and prosperity which has inclined them toward self-ism and materialism.

The "crucified ones" preach Christ and Him crucified and are inclined toward absolute obedience to the Holy Spirit at all cost to self. The rest of this study is given to the identification of these crucified ones.

I believe these differing groups are typified in the three main Old Testament feasts of the Jewish sacred year as well as in the three courts of the Tabernacle of Moses. These feasts and courts correlate with several other features having to do with our pressing onward in the high calling of God.



#6 May 16, 2008
"If you are not already familiar with the Old Testament feasts and the design of the Tabernacle, it would be best to read Leviticus 23 and Exodus 25-27 before going on.
The outer court of Moses' Tabernacle where the animal sacrifices were made corresponds with the Feast of Passover which was fulfilled in the death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ.
The Holy Place with the altar of incense, the table of showbread (the bread of preparation), and the candlesticks, which continually burned olive oil, corresponds with the Feast of Pentecost which was fulfilled in the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon the church on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2).
The Holy of Holies, wherein is the ark of the covenant with the mercy seat on it, corresponds with the Feast of Tabernacles (also called Feast of Booths) which has yet to be completely fulfilled. Once a year, on the Day of Atonement, the high priest entered behind the veil into the Holy of Holies to sprinkle the blood of animal sacrifices upon the mercy seat to atone for his own sins and for the sins of the people (Ex. 30:10). Jesus partially fulfilled the day of Atonement as our great High Priest (Heb. 9:7-12).
Tabernacles is also known as the Feast of Ingathering (Ex. 23:16) which I believe represents that great ingathering into Jesus on that great and terrible day of the Lord when He comes again.
I find that the various groups of Christians fit into one or the other of these different courts or feasts, depending on their willingness to go further in Jesus Christ as Lord. It is as though some have entered into the Kingdom of God but have not yet inherited all that is theirs to be enjoyed.
I don't mean to be ugly in doing so, but I place the liberals outside of the Tabernacle walls altogether and dispense with further discussion about them since most of them reject the divine inspiration of scripture. Consequently, they deny most of the fundamental truths of the Christian faith. I leave the matter of their salvation up to God.(I applaud their humanitarian interests and could wish the whole church were more taken up with these works. But our interest here has to do with relationship with God and not with works.)
I place the evangelicals in the outer court of the Tabernacle since they believe in the blood atonement of the Lamb of God and in the rebirth experience which is clearly represented in the Feast of Passover. But, by their own confession, that's as far as they go. For the most part they are able only to bear fruit thirtyfold, lacking the power of the Holy Spirit. Claiming to have the baptism in the Holy Spirit on the basis of doctrine doesn't get it."


#7 May 16, 2008
The Pentecostals and charismatics believe in the blood atonement, rebirth experience, and go one step further. They believe in and have received the baptism in the Holy Spirit (empowering) as promised by the Father which is typified in the Holy Place of the Tabernacle. But this is as far as they go. As a rule, they too have camped out around their "Pentecostal" experiences. They fail to recognize that the Holy Spirit was given to empower them to go on into the Holy of Holies; that is, into a place of absolute Lordship of Jesus Christ. While most would confess, as would the evangelicals, that Jesus Christ is Lord, the reality of that is not in their walk but only in their talk.
The Pentecostals and charismatics, having received the power of the Holy Spirit, have the potential of bearing fruit sixtyfold. Too often, however, they have viewed the Pentecostal experience as an end rather than the means toward the end: total surrender to the Lordship of Jesus Christ.
The new breed of radical believers, the "crucified ones," not only believe in the blood atonement, the new birth, and the Pentecostal experience, but are pressing into the Holy of Holies where the Feast of Tabernacles is to be fulfilled. The Holy of Holies is the place in the Spirit where nothing else matters but Jesus Christ and His absolute will. They are learning the full implication of what it means to lay one's life down for the sake of the gospel.
While Tabernacles is yet to be fulfilled, there are forerunners to it. Just as John the Baptist was a forerunner to prepare the way of the Lord, so are these crucified ones forerunners to prepare the way of the Lord's second coming. Previously, John was one man with the anointing of the Elijah spirit (Luke 1:17). These last-days forerunners are a many-membered man with the Elijah spirit--prophets by nature and lifestyle!"


#8 May 17, 2008
Traditional, "Spirit-filled," and Spirit-led Believers

"There is another way to make these distinctions: there are the traditional churches, so-called "Spirit-filled" churches, and the Spirit-led believers.

I say so-called "Spirit-filled" churches because these are they who started out being led by the Spirit but somewhere along the way camped out around their past experiences, institutionalized them, and have gone no further. When you cease to be "Spirit-led," you soon become traditional again. So in the long run, there are only two divisions: traditionalist and Spirit-led. All traditionalists end up becoming another sect within institutional Christianity while the Spirit-led rarely find affinity with an organized group.

We notice that the world accepts the traditional church, it tolerates the Spirit-filled church, but it will crucify the Spirit-led believers. Even the traditionalists in Christianity regard the Spirit-led believers with disdain.

If Satan and the powers of darkness could ever stop the people of God from being led by the Spirit of God, they would successfully thwart the power of God because the power of God is released through obedience. The enemy is never threatened by those "having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof..." (2 Tim. 3:5).

The enemy is threatened, however, by a company of overcomers today who dare to deny themselves and take up their cross daily (Luke 9:23), who dare to follow the Lamb wherever He goes. He trembles at the very emergence of these crucified ones."



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