Collective-bargaining bill predicted ...

Collective-bargaining bill predicted to win easy passage in House

There are 485 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Mar 9, 2011, titled Collective-bargaining bill predicted to win easy passage in House. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

Firefighters march east across High Street to the Statehouse to protest Senate Bill 5. Its provisions include eliminating binding arbitration in negotiating firefighters' union contracts.

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know what

Somerset, KY

#505 Mar 23, 2011
Rob wrote:
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Would it make you feel better if government workers just got paid 14% more and then contributed 14% back?
No, it would make me feel better if you would stay out of state or move to China, jackass!
Garfield

Perrysburg, OH

#506 Mar 23, 2011
Annirich wrote:
Ohio is 46 in the nation for unfavorable business taxes and that is what collective bargaining does for you. You CANNOT keep businesses in your state and when that happens you CANNOT HIRE! Get a clue people. These Unions are NOT for the benefit of anyone except themselves. Because of them we have bloated teacher's salaries, you can't fire any of them, they pay very little into their retirement (of course we private sector people pay 100% of ours then we turn around and have to make up their deficits).......on and on and on. We need to have the Unions either "take care of their own with their OWN monies" or disban and live like the rest of us. The Unions are nothing more than the strong-arm of the Progressive/Socialist Democratic Party.
Private sector companies are going where they can make the most profit for their shareholders, their single-minded reason for existing. They are happy if they can make up their own rules to maximize profits and avoid costs. That's the same reason they go to Mexico and anywhere else that isn't America. Any state that is willing to scrap laws that give freedom and benefits to workers and community organizations is going to get a look-see from the corporations. So Kasich and the other Republican governors are trying to make their states look ripe for exploitation.
Everything else is secondary. Every other function of government must be shrunken and dried up to the degree that is necessary to make the state look attractive for exploitation. I understand and accept that. It is why we elected all those Republicans. The Democrats care about some of the secondary elements of society, like...ordinary people....so they had to go. And that is the direction history took.
I hope it isn't too late to recover. I should have added optimistically that we could end up with a lot of happy healthy corporations and a whole boatload of obedient and cooperative robot slaves that will devote every fiber of their being to achieving the objectives of their masters. Because there isnít any other place to go. The corporation will have taken the place of local governments.
I hope that I end up living in an even-handed and generous private corporation that allows me some elements of life, liberty, property, happiness and safety, and a lifeboat for when I'm no longer useful there because of age or disability or illness. That's pretty optimistic.I wouldn't need a union in that kind of corporate community.
DAK

Columbus, OH

#507 Mar 23, 2011
Garfield wrote:
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Private sector companies are going where they can make the most profit for their shareholders, their single-minded reason for existing. They are happy if they can make up their own rules to maximize profits and avoid costs. That's the same reason they go to Mexico and anywhere else that isn't America. Any state that is willing to scrap laws that give freedom and benefits to workers and community organizations is going to get a look-see from the corporations. So Kasich and the other Republican governors are trying to make their states look ripe for exploitation.
Everything else is secondary. Every other function of government must be shrunken and dried up to the degree that is necessary to make the state look attractive for exploitation. I understand and accept that. It is why we elected all those Republicans. The Democrats care about some of the secondary elements of society, like...ordinary people....so they had to go. And that is the direction history took.
I hope it isn't too late to recover. I should have added optimistically that we could end up with a lot of happy healthy corporations and a whole boatload of obedient and cooperative robot slaves that will devote every fiber of their being to achieving the objectives of their masters. Because there isnít any other place to go. The corporation will have taken the place of local governments.
I hope that I end up living in an even-handed and generous private corporation that allows me some elements of life, liberty, property, happiness and safety, and a lifeboat for when I'm no longer useful there because of age or disability or illness. That's pretty optimistic.I wouldn't need a union in that kind of corporate community.
There is no difference in a Government standing on your neck and a corporation standing on your neck... Neither are what America was founded to be
Rob

North Royalton, OH

#508 Mar 24, 2011
know what wrote:
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No, it would make me feel better if you would stay out of state or move to China, jackass!
Poor little neocon. Did I upset you?? Like I said, you would be better off in China. You would fit right in. Why wait for the US to turn into China when the read deal is just a day's flight away.
Rob

North Royalton, OH

#509 Mar 24, 2011
know what wrote:
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No, it would make me feel better if you would stay out of state or move to China, jackass!
And do you "know what", don't worry about the passage of the bill. Once passed it will be sent to referendum and struck down. Lord Kasich has thrown you and your republican buddies under the Kasich express by unpopular laws and terrible leadership. Of course, he only cares about himself, laws/legislatures be damned...

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