Reality

Wallingford, CT

#101 Sep 8, 2012
Rudy anyone who retired on a disability in the last 5 years and works a job can have their pension reduced by the town. It is in the pension document. If you people would actually look at facts and read documents instead of relying on second hand knowledge and assumptions you wouldnt have so much to complain about.

Since: Jan 12

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#102 Sep 8, 2012
Jezebel282 wrote:
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Tell you what, why don't you contact Chief Murray and ask him if he wouldn't mind waiving his HIPAA rights just for you? It shouldn't be a problem since you already claim to know everything.
Just as I thought, as usual, no creditable response. You claim that FOLLOWTHEMONEY’s post was “inaccurate,” yet you cannot seem to enumerate these alleged inaccuracies. It appears that FOLLOWTHEMONEY was “right on the money.” This doesn’t surprise me since you seem to be one of the people trying to bamboozle the Stratford taxpayers. Do you work for the Harkins’ Administration?

So far what I have seen is the Harkins’ administration is allowing abundant overtime, questionable disabilities, and extraordinary side agreements affect the Town’s defined pension plan. The Administration then blames the entire organization of the plan when in reality it is only a few of the administration’s “favored employees” destroying the entire pension plan with the blessing of the administration. The “salt on the wound” for the Stratford Taxpayers is Harkins’ exclaiming,“Stratford is out of the pension business.” How ignorant does Harkins think the Stratford taxpayers are?

So David, I don’t need to contact your retired friend, I already know the answers.

Since: Jan 12

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#103 Sep 8, 2012
Reality wrote:
Rudy anyone who retired on a disability in the last 5 years and works a job can have their pension reduced by the town. It is in the pension document. If you people would actually look at facts and read documents instead of relying on second hand knowledge and assumptions you wouldnt have so much to complain about.
Has this been done? How does it work if you run your own business such as landscaping? How about first hand knowledge of a disabled retired cop running commerical lawn equipment--seems that this job has more heavy lifting than sitting behind a building and reading the sports section all day.

Since: Jul 08

Stratford, CT

#104 Sep 8, 2012
Tippys Goldfish wrote:
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So David, I don’t need to contact your retired friend, I already know the answers.
No, you don't have to do anything.You can keep posting whatever inaccuracies you want. You can have whatever opinion you want. It won't change the result at all. Fortunately the facts can't be made up like that.

Since: Jan 12

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#105 Sep 8, 2012
Jezebel282 wrote:
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No, you don't have to do anything.You can keep posting whatever inaccuracies you want. You can have whatever opinion you want. It won't change the result at all. Fortunately the facts can't be made up like that.
Ok, David, if my posts are inaccurate, you could always "correct" them with your “factoids.” Here are my facts, a fireman retires with a substantial comp. settlement, and he wants the payment calculated in his “ballooned” pension. To make matters worse, he works what, double shifts (168 hours divided by 2—your formula) all the way until his final day. Did he just wake up one day disabled?

How about your retired landscaping cop pal? Too disabled to work as a cop, but okay to do landscaping. Maybe he should be reassigned to Public Works since the Town is already paying him. Is his pension being reduced as Reality points out?

How about your other cop pal that got is extraordinary income locked without enough service time to retire?

Wake up David, these acts are wrong, the taxpayers are suffering and so are the other hard working town employees, that don’t have political hooks, and are playing by the rules.

Since: Jan 12

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#106 Sep 8, 2012
Jezebel282 wrote:
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No, you don't have to do anything.You can keep posting whatever inaccuracies you want. You can have whatever opinion you want. It won't change the result at all. Fortunately the facts can't be made up like that.
Hopefully, I can change the results, David. Tayers should contact their councilman and the mayor and ask questions? Why is this allowed to happen?

Since: Jul 08

Stratford, CT

#107 Sep 8, 2012
Tippys Goldfish wrote:
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Ok, David, if my posts are inaccurate, you could always "correct" them with your “factoids.” Here are my facts, a fireman retires with a substantial comp. settlement, and he wants the payment calculated in his “ballooned” pension. To make matters worse, he works what, double shifts (168 hours divided by 2—your formula) all the way until his final day. Did he just wake up one day disabled?
How about your retired landscaping cop pal? Too disabled to work as a cop, but okay to do landscaping. Maybe he should be reassigned to Public Works since the Town is already paying him. Is his pension being reduced as Reality points out?
How about your other cop pal that got is extraordinary income locked without enough service time to retire?
Wake up David, these acts are wrong, the taxpayers are suffering and so are the other hard working town employees, that don’t have political hooks, and are playing by the rules.
A better question to ask is why, with one current Assistant Fire Chief able to retire at any moment and another nearly so, there is no promotion list nor approved test available for the position?
This is exactly the same thing you are angry about happening again. Pattern recognition problem? The problem is not with the firefighters.

Since: Jan 12

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#108 Sep 8, 2012
Jezebel282 wrote:
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A better question to ask is why, with one current Assistant Fire Chief able to retire at any moment and another nearly so, there is no promotion list nor approved test available for the position?
This is exactly the same thing you are angry about happening again. Pattern recognition problem? The problem is not with the firefighters.
So are either of these A/C's in the middle of a comp. case to increase their pensions?

Are they out of work disabled working second jobs or running a business?

Are they making special arrangements with the harkins administration to increase their pension benefits?

Your right on one thing, the problem is not with the firefighters. The problem is with the mayor's office allowing a few special employees to beat the system. The question that doesn't get answered is WHY?
Reality

Bridgeport, CT

#109 Sep 8, 2012
Jezebel282 wrote:
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Tell you what, why don't you contact Chief Murray and ask him if he wouldn't mind waiving his HIPAA rights just for you? It shouldn't be a problem since you already claim to know everything.
Jez sez;
"Tell you what, why don't you contact Chief Murray and ask him if he wouldn't mind waiving his HIPAA rights just for you? It shouldn't be a problem since you already claim to know everything."

To be honest - his medical ailments really do not concern me.

What does concern me is how much we have paid out to him for worker's comp claims over the years.

How many tax dollars have supplemented his regal overtime income during his sterling career?

And how many times has the town been sued by Tom & his wife?

How many dollars has that cost taxpayers when you throw in attorney fees?

Or can't you give a number because they are still going after the town for MORE money.
Reality

Bridgeport, CT

#110 Sep 8, 2012
Tippys Goldfish wrote:
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Ok, David, if my posts are inaccurate, you could always "correct" them with your “factoids.” Here are my facts, a fireman retires with a substantial comp. settlement, and he wants the payment calculated in his “ballooned” pension. To make matters worse, he works what, double shifts (168 hours divided by 2—your formula) all the way until his final day. Did he just wake up one day disabled?
How about your retired landscaping cop pal? Too disabled to work as a cop, but okay to do landscaping. Maybe he should be reassigned to Public Works since the Town is already paying him. Is his pension being reduced as Reality points out?
How about your other cop pal that got is extraordinary income locked without enough service time to retire?
Wake up David, these acts are wrong, the taxpayers are suffering and so are the other hard working town employees, that don’t have political hooks, and are playing by the rules.
Hey Tippy - enough on the the landscaper - we got it - you don't like landscapers who were cops.

His pension will go down if he makes too much - but likely not from cutting your grass - right?

Besides - don't you think he would have rather stayed with the town if the cop job was so easy?

How many firemen are working harder jobs now while out disabled, rather than cooking chili & watching TV?

To be fair - look at ALL who are collecting a disability that is not income capped.

We don't need to know the injury - just who, how much per year and for how long?

And where are they working now?
Reality

Bridgeport, CT

#111 Sep 8, 2012
Tippys Goldfish wrote:
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Ok, David, if my posts are inaccurate, you could always "correct" them with your “factoids.” Here are my facts, a fireman retires with a substantial comp. settlement, and he wants the payment calculated in his “ballooned” pension. To make matters worse, he works what, double shifts (168 hours divided by 2—your formula) all the way until his final day. Did he just wake up one day disabled?
How about your retired landscaping cop pal? Too disabled to work as a cop, but okay to do landscaping. Maybe he should be reassigned to Public Works since the Town is already paying him. Is his pension being reduced as Reality points out?
How about your other cop pal that got is extraordinary income locked without enough service time to retire?
Wake up David, these acts are wrong, the taxpayers are suffering and so are the other hard working town employees, that don’t have political hooks, and are playing by the rules.
How about Stratford pension reform which says only those who are disabled and unable to engage in gainful employment get a disability pension with medical benefits?

Otherwise you need to come to work to get paid.

And if you scam a disability pension and get another job or open your own business - we cut off your disability pension?

Kind of like in the real world of business, not the politics of friends and family.

And if a retired disabled Stratford employee offers to do work for you - tell them it would be fine as long as they deduct what you already pay them on disabilty.

'Cuz they ain't that disabled if they can still work for your dollar on the side.
Reality

Bridgeport, CT

#112 Sep 8, 2012
Tippys Goldfish wrote:
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So are either of these A/C's in the middle of a comp. case to increase their pensions?
Are they out of work disabled working second jobs or running a business?
Are they making special arrangements with the harkins administration to increase their pension benefits?
Your right on one thing, the problem is not with the firefighters. The problem is with the mayor's office allowing a few special employees to beat the system. The question that doesn't get answered is WHY?
Why doesn't the town find out where the "disabled " are working now.

Then as a condition of a continued town disability pension - request a copy of the person's physical exam for when they were hired by their current employer.

If they failed to reveal the condition that caused them to be too disabled to work for the town - then maybe they no longer need that disability pension.

They just may have fully recovered but forgot to notify the town.

But if they purposely left out their "disability" - maybe their current employer would not be too happy.

Since: Jan 12

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#113 Sep 9, 2012
Reality wrote:
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Hey Tippy - enough on the the landscaper - we got it - you don't like landscapers who were cops.
His pension will go down if he makes too much - but likely not from cutting your grass - right?
Besides - don't you think he would have rather stayed with the town if the cop job was so easy?
How many firemen are working harder jobs now while out disabled, rather than cooking chili & watching TV?
To be fair - look at ALL who are collecting a disability that is not income capped.
We don't need to know the injury - just who, how much per year and for how long?
And where are they working now?
You are missing my point. If this guy ia able bodied enough to handle this heavy equipment, why is he collecting a pension due to being disabled? Disability pensions should be granted to those who can't work, not those who don't want to work. If the guy dosn't want to be a cop any longer than just move on, but don't milk the Town for fifty years paying a pension and his insurance.
find the money

Bridgeport, CT

#114 Sep 9, 2012
Rudy is right - someone needs to look at those who claim to be "disabled" from the past 20 years.

And Reality is also right - for those who retired in the past 5 years, since there has been so much scrutiny of pensions.

But what about those who have been retired on "disability" for the past 15 to 20 years - still sucking up tax dollars while still be employed at other jobs, which sometimes pay them more than the poor stiffs who stayed and still do their town job?

Back in the good old days when "disabilities" were handed out like candy?

Where are they working now?

What businesses are they running now?

How much better off are they than the average taxpayer now?
followthemoney

Bronx, NY

#115 Sep 9, 2012
Jezebel has motives for some of his opinions. It's fine ! I think he brings up numerous points that are completely valid and on the money.

Miron was awful and he pointed it out right to the bitter end( yes, he did have a motive and thats fine, he may have been right to be bitter).

Harkins is not living up to his billing and Jez points that out often.

Jez is a democrat true and true and it comes out in his posts that I have read for the last several years. He does let that taint his opinions some time.

Jez is friends with the fire people involved in the mess but it does taint his opinion on the situation.

I am not friends with any of the people.

They continue to build up their pensions as the unneccessary overtime continues. No one seems to care.

I have "heard" that at least TWO people have retired with pensions because they have lost some hearing . REALLY? both guys still work ( one fire and one police) at their jobs and both collect pensions from stratford and get free insurance for the rest of their lives......

nothing in either department that these guys could have done? I would have forced them to stay on the job and perform some sort of job INSIDE !!!!! If they didn't like it....... QUIT but no one wants to say anything too tough to the union heads... except of course if its a union that is not a police, fire, or teacher union!

Since: Jan 12

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#116 Sep 9, 2012
"Jez is friends with the fire people involved in the mess but it does taint his opinion on the situation."

Ha Ha Ha that is just too funny.

If anyone else got a comp. settlement, worked double shifts to the last day, and then wanted a bigger pension...or

If any other cop locked his pension with an extraordinary income without service time to retire...or

If some other cop retired on a disability and ran a landscaping operation, because they were too "disabled" to be a cop...

David would be typing his fingers to the bone.

What is fair is fair, and the taxpayers are being screwed by a few. What is the Harkins Administration doing...nothing, but telling us that "Stratford is out of the pension business."

Call Harkins and your councilman and ask WHY???

Since: Jul 08

Stratford, CT

#117 Sep 10, 2012
Tippys Goldfish wrote:
"Jez is friends with the fire people involved in the mess but it does taint his opinion on the situation."
What is the Harkins Administration doing...nothing, but telling us that "Stratford is out of the pension business."
Call Harkins and your councilman and ask WHY???
Having read the actual contracts and agreements in question (unlike you), it is not a matter of double standards. Likewise it is not a question of politics. The documents are clear and specific. No amount of anything will change their wording or intent nor will the signatures disappear. At the end of the process the plaintiff will receive what the contracts and agreements define and we will pay for that as well as legal fees, court costs and whatever punitive damages may result. You are correct in that the real question should be “Why?”. What's worse is that it appears to be happening again.

I applaud your questioning of Town Hall. I only wish your statement of "facts" were accurate. Your arguments would be better as a result.
True Reality

Wallingford, CT

#118 Sep 10, 2012
Reality wrote:
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How about Stratford pension reform which says only those who are disabled and unable to engage in gainful employment get a disability pension with medical benefits?
Again if you would read the pension document instead of assuming things and listening to rumors you would know this was already done approximately 6 years ago.
Salvatore

Shelton, CT

#119 Sep 11, 2012
Who is the landscaper cop?
disabled

Bridgeport, CT

#120 Sep 11, 2012
True Reality wrote:
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Again if you would read the pension document instead of assuming things and listening to rumors you would know this was already done approximately 6 years ago.
If anyone is a race fan - retired fireman Rick Dyer is racing again up at Stafford Motor Speedway this year.
He is only 23rd in the points standings so far in 2012, so he could use your support.

TRACK NEWS

June 8, 2012

(Stafford Springs, CT)---Stafford Speedway returned to racing on Friday, June 8TH with the 39th Annual Coors Light SK Modified® 100. Taking wins were Harry Wheeler in the SK Light feature and Cliff Saunders in the DARE Stock feature event. Rain postponed the remainder of tonight’s program to Friday, June 29th and rain checks from tonight’s program will be honored on June 29th.
In the 20-lap SK Light Modified feature event, Rick Dyer spun coming out of turn 2 to bring the caution out with 4 laps complete.

http://www.staffordmotorspeedway.com/Pages/Ne...

Or see a pic of his car;
http://www.staffordmotorspeedway.com/Pages/Te...

But at least he is not cutting lawns while collecting a disabilty pension.

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