Church hopes to drill gas well, but some neighbors object

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A financially struggling church has run into neighborhood opposition to natural gas drilling on church property.
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“jimmy agler”

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#22
Aug 3, 2009
 
Plagiarized Pleasure wrote:
A minister concluded that his church was getting into serious financial troubles.
While checking the church storeroom, he discovered several cartons of new bibles that had never been opened and distributed. So at his Sunday sermon, he asked for three volunteers from the congregation who would be willing to sell the bibles door-to-door for $10 each to raise the desperately needed money for the church. Peter, Paul and Louie all raised their hands to volunteer for the task.
The minister knew that Peter and Paul earned their living as salesmen and were likely capable of selling some bibles. But he had serious doubts about Louie who was a local farmer, who had
always kept to himself because he was embarrassed by his speech impediment. Poor Louis stuttered badly.
But, not wanting to discourage Louis, the minister decided to let him try anyway. He sent the three of them away with the back seat of their cars stacked with bibles. He asked them to meet with him and report the results of their door-to-door selling efforts the following Sunday.
Anxious to find out how successful they were, the minister immediately asked Peter, "Well, Peter, how did you make out selling our bibles last week?"
Proudly handing the reverend an envelope, Peter replied, "Using my sales prowess, I was able to sell 20 bibles, and here's the $200 I collected on behalf of the church."
"Fine job, Peter!" The minister said, vigorously shaking his hand. "You are indeed a fine salesman and the Church is indebted to you."
Turning to Paul, "And Paul, how many bibles did you sell for the church last week?"
Paul, smiling and sticking out his chest, confidently replied," I am a professional salesman. I sold 28 bibles on behalf of the church, and here's $280 I collected."
The minister responded, " That's absolutely splendid, Paul. You are truly a professionalsalesman and the church is also indebted to you."
Apprehensively, the minister turned to Louie and said, "And Louie, did you manage to sell any bibles last week?"
Louie silently offered the minister a large envelope. The reverend opened it and counted the contents.
"What is this?" the minister exclaimed. "Louie, there's $3200 in here! Are you suggesting that you sold 320 bibles for the church, door to door, in just one week? Louie just nodded.
That's impossible!" both Peter and Paul said in unison. "We are professional salesmen, yet you claim to have sold 10 times as many bibles as we could."
"Yes, this does seem unlikely," the minister agreed. "I think you'd better explain how you managed to accomplish this, Louie."
Louie shrugged. "I-I-I- re-re-really do-do-don't kn-kn-know f-f-f-for sh -sh-sh-sure," he stammered.
Impatiently, Peter interrupted. "For crying out loud, Louie, just tell us what you said to them when they answered the door!"
"A-a-a-all I-I-I s-s-said wa-wa-was," Louis replied, "W-w-w-w-would y-y-y-you l-l-l-
l-l-like t-t-to b-b-b-buy th-th-th-this b-b-b-b-bible f-f-for t-t-ten b-b-b-bucks ---o-o-o-or---
wo-wo-would yo-you j-j-j-just l-like m-m-me t-t-to st-st-stand h-h-here and r-r-r-r-r-read it t-to y-y-you?"
great joke

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Aug 7, 2009
 

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jimmy agler wrote:
<quoted text>liberals are on the left,the far leftis socialism then comunism.fascism is the far right,one step beyond the far republican right.after facism comes naziism.why is it that no one seems to get taught political spectrums anymore?
Jimmy,
Actually,fascism is a purely leftist invention from Benito Mussolini at the beginning of the 1900's.Hitlerism is not fascism.Fascism is dictates that the State is more important than the individual and it will decide what's good for you.Roosevelts'New Deal(by his own statements)were fashioned after the European fascist model.At the beginning of the 20th century fascism was really quite popular world-wide.It hadn't morphed into Hitlerism yet.Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin publically praised fascism when it suited their needs.All of the "founding fathers"of fascism were in fact committed leftists,progressives,and socialists...Hope that clears up the political spectrum thing...
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#24
Aug 7, 2009
 
I wonder how many of the church's neigbors also supported increased drilling in state parks or off-shore of costal states? I wonder how many of them heat with gas?

Funny how people's opinions change when the consequences are right in their back yards, isn't it?

“My impostor can't spell "soled”

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Aug 7, 2009
 
She is not part of a Ho' train, like you.

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Aug 7, 2009
 
retprob wrote:
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Jimmy,
Actually,fascism is a purely leftist invention from Benito Mussolini at the beginning of the 1900's.Hitlerism is not fascism.Fascism is dictates that the State is more important than the individual and it will decide what's good for you.Roosevelts'New Deal(by his own statements)were fashioned after the European fascist model.At the beginning of the 20th century fascism was really quite popular world-wide.It hadn't morphed into Hitlerism yet.Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin publically praised fascism when it suited their needs.All of the "founding fathers"of fascism were in fact committed leftists,progressives,and socialists...Hope that clears up the political spectrum thing...
the key word there being "morphed",,,not too mention the leftist movement in europe in the early part of LAST century was based on marxism.and as far as the left being the party of big brother govt. allow me to introduce former president G.W.Bush & Cheney,joe McCarthy,herbert hoover,alberto gonzales,Nixon,funny ho everytime a public official puts state security over freedoms it is a repub.

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Aug 11, 2009
 
Jimmy,
You're absolutely right.However,they are "Republcan"in name only.State Corporatism and trading liberty for security are both facist ideas.I recommend reading"Liberal Fascism"by Jonas Goldberg.It thoroughly explains(with historical facts,direct qoutes,etc.)how politics and the country we live in isn't really what we think they are...Don't be turned off by the title.The auther doesn't take sides and it is a scholarly work.

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retprob wrote:
Jimmy,
You're absolutely right.However,they are "Republcan"in name only.State Corporatism and trading liberty for security are both facist ideas.I recommend reading"Liberal Fascism"by Jonas Goldberg.It thoroughly explains(with historical facts,direct qoutes,etc.)how politics and the country we live in isn't really what we think they are...Don't be turned off by the title.The auther doesn't take sides and it is a scholarly work.
iread about the first half of it,,,,,stopped because i found many of his conclusions a stretch at best.not saying he is a bad person,,,,just disagree with him

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