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Concerned

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Mar 20, 2013
 

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Here are my points: Hunter not made to be a cop, much less the City Chief- likes to party to much! Brown is an xxx kisser and his position with MCSD shows it, he doesnt know how to run a police department without help from the xxxxx he kissed!Witt your right he is a nice guy but with him in charge he will lose everyones respect! The only right choice is Hartman Versailles' needs a man without any issues and knows how to get the job done!
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Concerned said it best. Too may surrounding issues with three out of the four candidates. I understand his father (Clark) supporting his son, but as a prior official he has to look beyond that to see his son CAN'T do this job, nor is he QUALIFIED. And with all the issues at HUNTERS FEET he is not worth the risk. If Hunter was to win the election I would have to gather everyone and go to the school board. I don't want him to have anything to do with any school activities. He is not any sort of an example I want my child to see or be around. How does it look if we as adults elect someone who is in the bars drinking, stalking and god only knows what else we don't even know about. Chad has dedicated his career to our community, he is more than just an officer, he spends countless hours of his own time away from his family being involved in several activites. Where is Hunter, BARS. HARTMAN IS THE MAN FOR THIS JOB.
Watergate

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Mar 20, 2013
 
It's funny reading these posts ! But what is very interesting is some of the details that are being mentioned are details that were brought to light in a closed session during a City Council Meeting. Now with that said, as far as the computer that was used by Hunter at school. If I may add Hunter was the only one to have access and login code to the City owned laptop. For those who doesn't know the law, any details that was discussed in a close session of the City Council Meeting other than a final decision can not be released to the public. Seems to me that some of these posts may be coming from Council members or employees of the City that have been discussing these issues with Council members outside of the Closed Session Law !!!!!! Sure wouldn't want to be the one caught doing that !!
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Mar 21, 2013
 
Watergate wrote:
It's funny reading these posts ! But what is very interesting is some of the details that are being mentioned are details that were brought to light in a closed session during a City Council Meeting. Now with that said, as far as the computer that was used by Hunter at school. If I may add Hunter was the only one to have access and login code to the City owned laptop. For those who doesn't know the law, any details that was discussed in a close session of the City Council Meeting other than a final decision can not be released to the public. Seems to me that some of these posts may be coming from Council members or employees of the City that have been discussing these issues with Council members outside of the Closed Session Law !!!!!! Sure wouldn't want to be the one caught doing that !!
I agree completely I'm glad someone finally brought light to this! I guess it goes to show someone is being shady.
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Shady is them keeping it from the public to begin with.
Watergate

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Mar 21, 2013
 
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Shady is them keeping it from the public to begin with.
Nope !! It's the law, look it up !!
Reality

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I understand laws, but this is a person wanting to serve the public. If he doesn't want us to know about his personal doings, I would hate to see what he would hide as chief.........And than what about the laws he broke?????? If you are asking others to respect it than he should as well.
watergate

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Reality wrote:
I understand laws, but this is a person wanting to serve the public. If he doesn't want us to know about his personal doings, I would hate to see what he would hide as chief.........And than what about the laws he broke?????? If you are asking others to respect it than he should as well.
I totally agree ! Pubic servants are and should be held to a higher standard. They set the example !
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Unfortunately, you're not gonna find too many of the "Public Servants" in Morgan County that set a good example! I'm sure there are exceptions to that....just because MOST aren't good doesn't mean ALL. I remember when I was a kid Police Officers were folks to respect. Now you just fear them because you don't know what they're gonna pull on you. And before anyone jumps to any conclusions....I've not had any problems with the law....never had a ticket in my life or been in trouble, but I have eyes and ears. It's really very scary if the truth be known.
watergate

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Just received the Versailles Leader Statesman news paper. Seems to me Sheriff Jim Petty doesn't care for the City of Versailles Police Dept. No cooperation from the City Police Dept !! Could this be the kettle calling the pot black ??? This is coming from a county official that wasted tax payer money to file a lawsuit agenst his own county !! Ask him who covers the county after midnight while his officers are off duty...the City of Versailles Police Dept does quit often !! At least the City of Versailles employees 24/7 patrol coverage !!
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So the VPD situation now Jim Petty's fault?? You sure it wasn't George Bush?

LOL, smoke & mirrors.
watergate

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Mar 27, 2013
 
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So the VPD situation now Jim Petty's fault?? You sure it wasn't George Bush?
LOL, smoke & mirrors.
Facts are the facts...dispute if you can ?
Lookin In

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My point, Watergate, is that it is very common for MO police departments to run 'agency assist' calls in their respective counties; and to contain those situations pending the arrival of a deputy or trooper. Inter-agency rivalries and pissing matches are just as common.
Watergate

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Lookin In wrote:
My point, Watergate, is that it is very common for MO police departments to run 'agency assist' calls in their respective counties; and to contain those situations pending the arrival of a deputy or trooper. Inter-agency rivalries and pissing matches are just as common.
I agree, but wouldn't have be better said by Sheriff Petty to endorse Deputy Witt for his accomplishments as a "Duputy", rather than the need for the Sheriff's Dept's cooperation between the two agencies.I can understand if there were the lack of cooperation just between MCSD and the VPD, but there is also straining tention between MCSD and other surrounding agencies. Therefore, the common denominator would tend to lead one to think MCSD needs to work a little harder in cooperation. With that mindset does the City of Versailles need or want "with candidate Witt" if elected a Morgan County Sheriff Dept. "anex" Municipal Division ! Oh BTW....it wasn't George Bush's fault....
Look at the facts

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Mar 28, 2013
 
watergate wrote:
Just received the Versailles Leader Statesman news paper. Seems to me Sheriff Jim Petty doesn't care for the City of Versailles Police Dept. No cooperation from the City Police Dept !! Could this be the kettle calling the pot black ??? This is coming from a county official that wasted tax payer money to file a lawsuit agenst his own county !! Ask him who covers the county after midnight while his officers are off duty...the City of Versailles Police Dept does quit often !! At least the City of Versailles employees 24/7 patrol coverage !!
Jim Petty is not the only one that has filed a lawsuit against his own County.
watergate

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Mar 28, 2013
 
Look at the facts wrote:
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Jim Petty is not the only one that has filed a lawsuit against his own County.
Very true !
Lookin In

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Mar 29, 2013
 
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<quoted text>I agree, but wouldn't have be better said by Sheriff Petty to endorse Deputy Witt for his accomplishments as a "Duputy", rather than the need for the Sheriff's Dept's cooperation between the two agencies.I can understand if there were the lack of cooperation just between MCSD and the VPD, but there is also straining tention between MCSD and other surrounding agencies. Therefore, the common denominator would tend to lead one to think MCSD needs to work a little harder in cooperation. With that mindset does the City of Versailles need or want "with candidate Witt" if elected a Morgan County Sheriff Dept. "anex" Municipal Division ! Oh BTW....it wasn't George Bush's fault....
Having been 3rd in command at a Sheriff's Dept for years, and 2nd in command at a Police Dept for about as long, I can tell you this with confidence- the working relationship that MATTERS is the one between grunts in the field. As long as they harness-up and pull together when they need to, the ramblings of elected officials are irrelevant.
watergate

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Mar 29, 2013
 
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Having been 3rd in command at a Sheriff's Dept for years, and 2nd in command at a Police Dept for about as long, I can tell you this with confidence- the working relationship that MATTERS is the one between grunts in the field. As long as they harness-up and pull together when they need to, the ramblings of elected officials are irrelevant.
Kind of like the tentacles of an octopus. If each tentacle goes off in its own direct and doesn't have direction to know to feed the central mouth, then the octopus dies. Then why have elected officals governing these departments if ramblings are irrelevant to the LEO's in the field ?
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Mar 29, 2013
 
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<quoted text>Kind of like the tentacles of an octopus. If each tentacle goes off in its own direct and doesn't have direction to know to feed the central mouth, then the octopus dies. Then why have elected officals governing these departments if ramblings are irrelevant to the LEO's in the field ?
I apparently didn't make my point well; I was simply saying that the important thing is that the job gets done and it is the ground pounders who accomplish that. As long as the officers work well together, whatever their respective elected officials can say is of little consequence. It is simply fodder for the press.

Really, the only reason we have elected officials as law enforcement CEO's, is because that archaic system has not been discarded here. For the office of sheriff ni MO, it probably never will. But many municipalities have gotten away from it and generally speaking, their police departments are more professionally operated.
Reality

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Apr 4, 2013
 
Well the best man WON and I am thankful. The sheriff's dept is another whole different story in itself.

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