Mixed vibes on body shaker

Mixed vibes on body shaker

There are 501 comments on the Newsday.com story from Jun 18, 2006, titled Mixed vibes on body shaker. In it, Newsday.com reports that:

Remember those machines from the 1950s that jiggled a person's fat in an attempt to rid the body of cellulite? These days, a more sophisticated generation of those machines, which vibrate the entire body, is ...

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Lloyd Shaw

Timaru, New Zealand

#541 Apr 14, 2011
So answer me this Jim S.

Why has pubmed just released a research paper saying this ....

Reason for study...

"Whole-body vibration training using single-frequency methods has been reported to improve bone mineral density. However, the intensities can exceed safe levels and have drawn unfavorable comments from subjects."

AKA.. Marketers of smaller lighter machine keep saying the larger more powerful ones can hurt you

Eg... Dr Clinton Rubins ( Juvent ) claims that all other machine but his were unsafe.

Conclusion to the study...

" Vibration Training generates stress level equivalent to the level during walking and stair-climbing. This evidence suggests that VT is safe for prolonged use in subjects with osteoporosis who ambulate independently.

So lets get this straight. It is comparable to walking or stair-climbing. And safer than jogging.

Never mind the FACT it has been commercial available for 10 years in the public domain with no problems. If fact it has had more exposure to a larger population that the smaller machines.

Mr Scummy marketer . Go peddle your scare mongering elsewhere.

Meg

Wellington, New Zealand

#542 Jun 27, 2011
I'm in Wellington NZ. I found a FitVibe machine at a Configue Gym here and will try it out. I was in Auckland recently and tried the FitVibe and was told it was the best. Is this so? Or is there a better one here in NZ. The big FitVibe is too big and expensive to use for home use - do you know of any machine for home use that is very good but wont break the bank or floor!
Thanks from Meg
Lloyd Shaw

Christchurch, New Zealand

#543 Jun 27, 2011
FitVibe are "better" machines than some. But far from the "best" ( funny how every company claim that, someone must be fibbing )

How much have you got to spend ( no I do not sell machines ).
Meg

Wellington, New Zealand

#545 Jun 27, 2011
Thanks for quick reply. I've got nothing to spend ha ha, but now that I've got an idea of how good vibration machines are, I could be persuaded to beg, borrow or steal...
So maybe a few thousand $$$, but my house has shaky wooded floors. Is there a gym with a good one in Welly? What machine do you consider the best? I'm a young 60+ and want to keep/gain muscle etc. Can I ask you what gym you are at in Auckland, as I come up there a lot?
Meg
Alice

Ireland

#546 Nov 7, 2011
Hi, I see your post re breast cancer. I am a 1 year curvivor and my boyfriend has a power plate, Im a bit nervous about using it, in case it "shakes" up cancer cells. At the same time I have put on weight and have very stiff joint since the chemo. what do you think? is this machine safe for me to use?
I asked the radiologist and he just said there wasnt enough research for him to say...
thanks for your time
Alice
Lloyd Shaw

Christchurch, New Zealand

#547 Nov 7, 2011
Alice...

Only active cancer is a cautionary contraindication.

See here why...

http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/vibr...

No cases have ever been recorded yet ( after 10 years ) of any links to negative effects. But at the end of the day. It is your body.

My advice is to do a single session following my program..

http://vibratrainlease.com/workouts.html

If you feel better afterwards rather than worse. You have to balance up the possible negatives ( even theoretical ) with the obvious positives.
Sebnem

Istanbul, Turkey

#548 Dec 3, 2011
Anne wrote:
In the last part of the article states to avoid power plate if you have cancer. Could it trigger cancer cells. The reason I ask is because August 2006 I was diagnosed with breast cancer and one month prior to that I tried out a power plate machine. Should there not be studies done on this.
Last november and december 2010 i went to powerplate lessons and in february 2011 this year i was diagnosed with early breastcancer however it had spread to the first lymph as well. I had had a check up 6 months ago and I had no tumors. I wonder how this happened so quickly, is it because of powerplate? I asked this to my dr but no one knows, I am investigating this problem too!
Sebnem
Lloyd Shaw

Auckland, New Zealand

#549 Dec 3, 2011
Anything is possible with the human body. And intense exercise is not normally recommended once cancer has established itself.

From a morticians point of view and experience ...

Your fast moving form of cancer is not unheard of, and I have seen it in people who have never even heard of power plate or any other Vibration Training device. I have seen it in people who do nothing, and people who are very active in the traditional sense.

There does not seem to be a pattern at all.

Vibration training has been popular for 10 years. So if a spike in stats of certain cancers was ever recorded. Insurance companies and the such would be all over it faster than you could blink.

So far the only link found was an actual decrease in the risk of cancer and diabetes from a drop in viscera body fat.

Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#550 Mar 10, 2012
Over the past couple years, there has been a dramatic increase in the body of international research supporting the positive influences of Whole Body Vibration (WBV) technology on everyone from collegiate athletes to senior citizens. With this, there has also been a rise in the number of people interested in opening a Vibration Training studio. What has become obvious however, based upon the growing number of conversations I have had with people considering studio ownership, is that they are too blinded by dollar signs to take the time to understand not only the industry and the marketplace, but the human body and how it responds to Vibration Training.
With nearly 5 years of experience working with WBV equipment, including almost two years of Vibration Training studio ownership, I have learned many lessons in what works and what doesn’t work (in the US at least). While I am far from being an expert, it is my intention to share my experiences thus far and provide the following tips to assist you in successfully operating a Vibration Training studio. More importantly, however, is to help you successfully make a positive impact on the lives of the people you are serving.
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#551 Mar 10, 2012
Tip #1 – Know Who Your Clients Are!

Although it is certainly tempting to open your business with an emphasis on providing a quick fix, it is time to retire the “10 minutes is 1 hour in the gym” tagline! This nonsensical statement, along with its countless other manifestations, is not only inaccurate, but the biggest recipe for failure in the Vibration Training studio business.

While there can be some profound changes with 10 minutes of training on PROPER equipment (see Tip #3 below),“weight loss,” or rather, positive changes to your body composition, requires a greater commitment. Not just in terms of the actual physical intensity of a given training session, but consistent participation in the training program. And let’s not forget the most important thing, supportive changes in clients’ diet to maximize the body’s response to training.

Without controlling these variables, which is extremely difficult with the majority of clients (especially those who respond to the gimmicky statement above), you will just wind up with a bunch of dissatisfied customers and a failing business. This is not to say that Vibration Training is not effective for weight loss, quite the contrary, but without making it a part of a multi-disciplinary approach, it can prove a quite challenging goal to achieve.

More importantly however, is that while you are beating your head against the wall out of frustration over your clients lack of discipline, you will be failing to realize who does, in fact, stand to benefit the most from Vibration Training.

What Populations Benefit Most?

In my opinion, there are two primary populations that stand to benefit most from Vibration Training:
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#552 Mar 10, 2012
Individuals with “limitations”

I use quotation marks here because the most frustrating “limitations” I see in my studio are not physiological, but involve either a.) the lack of time to dedicate to exercise, and b.) the lack of interest in optimizing health over beauty.

However, those who have the most to gain from Vibration Training are individuals who, for a host of physiological reasons, have been unable to fully participate in other exercise programs because of poor health.

Whether it is moderate to severe obesity, chronic pain or fatigue issues (i.e., fibromyalgia, CFS, autoimmune diseases, hypermobility syndromes etc.), age-related physical limitations (i.e., osteoarthritis, osteoporosis, mobility and balance issues, cardiopulmonary problems, etc.), neurological diseases (MS, Parkinson’s Disease, etc.), muscular dystrophies, or other physical issues, this is where your studio’s emphasis needs to be.

These people are vastly underserved when it comes to fitness and wellness and are the biggest beneficiaries of Vibration Training. There is certainly some education that you will require to work with these individuals, but no one will be more grateful for your efforts, or more loyal to your business.
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#553 Mar 10, 2012
Athletes

On the other side of the spectrum are athletes. There are two areas to focus on with this group. The first is Performance Enhancement. Although the data is still a bit mixed due to issues pertaining to the study designs themselves, it is only a matter of time before it becomes clear that Vibration Training is a powerful means to enhance muscle power and therefore improve multiple aspects of athletic performance. Getting a head start on understanding how Vibration Training works to achieve this effect and how to properly implement sports performance enhancement training programs is a good business decision.

The other value of Vibration Training with athletes, and where the real potential lies, is for assisting with Recovery From Training and Competition. Whether it is for improving flexibility after a race, mobilizing stiff joints and connective tissue after rigorous training, improving circulation and reducing inflammation in overused tendons or just reducing overall injury risk, nothing else is more efficient or as easy to implement.

With the growing rise in triathlon training and marathon training worldwide, there has been an equal rise in athletic injury. Being able to offer a quick, painless, cost-effective, and potent means to improve recovery and greatly reduce injury risk has tremendous potential.
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#554 Mar 10, 2012
Tip #2 – Understand How WBV Technology Works

This seems like a no-brainer, but it is mind-blowing to see how little aspiring studio owners (not to mention several of those that own studios already) know about the way WBV technology works and how to use it to achieve the numerous benefits it has been shown to provide. Can you imagine opening a Pilates or Yoga studio without knowing anything about the theory behind them? Neither can I, yet this is exactly what’s happening across the world at the moment. I guess that’s why so many people choose to have people just stand for 10 minutes and call it a day.

This is not to say that you need to study physics or neurophysiology, but take a moment to at least grasp the basics. Outside of that, understand the different training parameters used with Vibration Training (frequency, amplitude, acceleration, and duration of training) and how they may be used to achieve different results for your clients. When you can grasp the basics, the rest comes quite naturally.

Having this knowledge allows you to customize your programs, which makes your clients happier and more likely to make greater progress. It can also open up more opportunities for private training, effective program designs that are benefit-driven, and higher profits that come with the hard work you put it to learning. Not to mention the incredible word of mouth you get from these motivated and satisfied clients!

Although this industry is tough to navigate, there are sites where useful information can be found. This website is one example and if something doesn’t make sense, just ask and we’ll do everything we can to help clarify it.
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#555 Mar 10, 2012
Tip #3 – Invest In Your Equipment

Absolutely the MOST IMPORTANT,.

In the meantime, the bottom line is this: the majority of both pivotal and lineal platforms on the market (including several of those that are the most heavily marketed!) have fake specs. This means that they do not do what they say they do. Whether it is moving slower than they are supposed to or losing amplitude when loaded, both affect the acceleration output of the platform and therefore its potential to influence the most important component of the body when it comes to Vibration Training, the MUSCLE SYSTEM.

Why would manufacturers deceive you like this? The answer is simple. They know you don’t know enough about how WBV technology works and are hoping to profit from your ignorance. Or, in some cases, they themselves don’t know enough about how Vibration Training works. With better consumer education and the demand for better equipment standards, they will gradually disappear, or change their manufacturing practices to survive.

Once you understand the way WBV technology works, you will know that you cannot have access to the wide range of clinically supported benefits of WBV, or a successful studio for that matter, without having PROPER equipment that performs to spec. I can’t emphasize this enough. This is the center of your studio and requires an investment.

Improperly built equipment also results in problems with the durability of these devices, poor customer support, and eventually a room full of “out of order” signs. If you are planning on being successful, you will require commercial-grade equipment supported by companies that care about their products.
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#556 Mar 10, 2012
Tip #3 – Invest In Your Equipment

For more specifics on this tip, which is absolutely the MOST IMPORTANT, please refer to the article linked below (2 sections) entitled,“How to Properly Select a Platform.”.

http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2011/06/how-...

http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2011/08/how-...

In the meantime, the bottom line is this: the majority of both pivotal and lineal platforms on the market (including several of those that are the most heavily marketed!) have fake specs. This means that they do not do what they say they do. Whether it is moving slower than they are supposed to or losing amplitude when loaded, both affect the acceleration output of the platform and therefore its potential to influence the most important component of the body when it comes to Vibration Training, the MUSCLE SYSTEM.

Why would manufacturers deceive you like this? The answer is simple. They know you don’t know enough about how WBV technology works and are hoping to profit from your ignorance. Or, in some cases, they themselves don’t know enough about how Vibration Training works. With better consumer education and the demand for better equipment standards, they will gradually disappear, or change their manufacturing practices to survive.

Once you understand the way WBV technology works, you will know that you cannot have access to the wide range of clinically supported benefits of WBV, or a successful studio for that matter, without having PROPER equipment that performs to spec. I can’t emphasize this enough. This is the center of your studio and requires an investment.

Improperly built equipment also results in problems with the durability of these devices, poor customer support, and eventually a room full of “out of order” signs. If you are planning on being successful, you will require commercial-grade equipment supported by companies that care about their products.
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#557 Mar 10, 2012
Overly Complicated Programs - The wide array of benefits of VT might make it tempting to develop too many programs for your clients or too many exercises as part of their customized program. Keep it simple. Most benefits are available within the same program. Better to educate your members on this fact than deal with them getting upset that they missed the “ab blaster” class and have to repeat the “total body conditioning” class once again instead.

Making Your Members Think About $$$ Rather Than Health – This can reflect the methods by which they are required to pay for your services (accept credit cards and use auto-renew), the fees you are charging them (remember most programs are no more than 20 minutes) or even failing to educate them on how much they will likely save in healthcare costs by taking care of themselves.

I realize that you are making a big investment in your studio, but this is a very new concept and by making it as easy as possible for your members to pursue, you will certainly profit in the end.
Thecopyartist

New Plymouth, New Zealand

#558 Mar 10, 2012
Moving Forward…….

As the Vibration Training studio concept continues to grow, there will be much more to learn. Hopefully these tips will make the process less painful for those of you who plan to open a studio.
test

Walnut, CA

#560 Aug 28, 2013
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SJB

UK

#561 Dec 2, 2013
Jenni V - age 60 wrote:
I bought the Power Plate My3 in 2008 and loved it. Started on the low setting with the extra padding provided, doing the exercies on the poster included and gradually moved up to the high speed with no extra padding. After one year of 4 or 5 15 minutes session per week I started to see flashes from my left eye and was dianosed with a posterior vitreous detachment in both eyes. One year later (and no use of the Power Plate) the detachment has completed in my right eye but is still not complete in my left eye. I am still being monitored by my dr in case of a retinal tear. I cannot say for certain that this was caused by use of the Power Plate but it seems strange to me that it happened in both eyes at the same time and at a relatively young age. Most people who have a PVD are somewhat older. Also, it does not usually take this long to complete the detachment.
Hi Jenni V. I am 50 and am going through exactly the same as you, vitreous detachment of the left eye and am now 10 months later waiting for a hospital appointment to check out flashes in my vision that have suddenly started. 10 months later! I hope you are okay now. I certainly would not use one of these machines again.
Lloyd Shaw

Auckland, New Zealand

#562 Dec 2, 2013
You have been using a fake machine made in China where engineering tests in the past have shown some pretty random readings. So most random ethical commercial studios will not use Power plates at all.

I am aware of studios running full commercial operations for 10 years now, on high foot traffic locations. And using tested equipment have had no such issues.

I am sorry you have been scammed and damaged. But info on real Vs fake machines has been well published since 2006. It was the best protection designers like myself could give.

Good common sense useful to laypeople.


But unfortunately we can only help those who question the " to good and cheap to be true " dodgy marketing adverts.

Eg... In areas where we crushed dodgy companies very quickly. Damage has been limited to a few knees injuries.

Track down the person who sold, and never taught you how to use properly. And drop the machine on hid head.

Hope you recover ok. Lloyd Shaw

Stop using any form of Vibration Training until you speak to a real pro. Not a salesperson.

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