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nutjobs here

Kfar Saba, Israel

#111102 Oct 26, 2013
orion wrote:
<quoted text>You really let me cry with your league of nations. Who was the League of Nations. Mostly the imperial countries Britain, France, Italy who destroyed the Ottoman Empire. They cut the cake between them. Who gave them that right? Themselves. Remember Lawrence of Arabia who thought that he was fighting for the Arabs and found that he had been screwed. When he protested he was liquidated. The fool had done his job. The rest was for the thieves. Chaim Weizman said in 1917: "If we do not get it (the Balfour declaration) we will destroy the British empire like we have destroyed the Russian Empire. " Jabotinsky said the same. So he got the Balfour declaration. Who gave Balfour the right to give somebody else land away?
The League of nations was 52 nations.
Lawrence of Arabia you speak of tried to help create a Jewish country in the whole of Palestine including Jordan in the late 1910's. Read the Weitzman - Faisel paris peace agreement 1919 he was involved from what i have read.

Jews helped the British more than the Arabs helped the British and there were plenty of Arabs fighting for the Ottomans also.

You keep mentioning apparent quotes it would help if you had a source as many that you and others post here were never said.

Balfour declaration on its own was nothing. Only once it was incorporated into the Mandate for Palestine did it become legally binding.

You cannot pick and choose when you want to use the UN or legal aspects to make a point; and than turn around and deny their right to make these decisions.

I never denied it was unfair to a portion of the population but at least half of the Palestinians in 1948 were not on the land for more than 100's of years. They came from other lands just as the Jews mostly did.

The Mandate clearly gives the local non-Jews civil and religious rights but there is no mention of political rights.
nutjobs here

Kfar Saba, Israel

#111103 Oct 26, 2013
Orion as for the documentary you told me to watch. Really sums up why your outlook on the conflict is so distorted. Firstly it is created by a person who feels bad not for Israels actions but his own. Probably guilty of doing something he shouldn't have done and was to much of a pussy to say so at the time.

Lets go through some lies.

There was always problems for Jews living under Arab rule. They were second class citizens, who had less rights and in a court of law had no say, they often couldn't own land and were massacred here and there.

They also take Herzls quote out of context so no surprise where you got that from.

There is no mention of the Jewish immigration for the 50 years leading up to the 20th century. He instead implies it only started in the 1890's.

Britain violated the provisions of the Mandate in favor of the Arabs by restricting Jewish immigration, allowing the Arabs to massacre Jews, and encouraging non-Jewish immigration. Didn't mention the White papers and continuous reduction of land. he implies the opposite.

King David Hotel was a military installation who were warned of the bomb before it went off. They ignored the warning and suffered the consequences.

The majority of the land was not owned by anyone. If you can give any evidence to the contrary go ahead otherwise don't make false claims.

The Mandate for Palestine came long before the Holocaust so it was not a question of Holocaust guilt as is stated.

They ignore the fact that Palestine included Jordan, Golan and S.Lebanon. and instead imply that the Jews go a lot more than they did.

It was the Arabs who were carrying out genocide against the Jews from the early 1920's. The Jewish militias were created mostly to prevent and take revenge for these massacres. no mention of this but statements to the opposite.

Tel-Aviv was created because Jews weren't safe in Jaffo.

There is no mention at all of the massacres against Jews on the land for decades.

They claim battles to be massacres.

There are no Jew only roads just Israeli or Palestinians only.

The wall is not a wall but 95% fence.

Israel doesn't control all the borders into Gaza and never cut off all water, food and power.

Israel only went back to Gaza because there were hundreds of missiles being fired towards Israel towns and cross border attacks.

When does Israel steal Palestinian land to build more and more settlements? No new settlements have been built in the WB for years.

Men, women and children are not killed daily as claimed.

Israelis Arabs have the same rights as Israeli Jews.

What makes Israeli settlement illegal but Palestinian settlement legal?

Maale Adumim in 95-99% Jewish owned.

Settlements are not part of Jerusalem Metropolitan as claimed.

So called peaceful demonstations are violent. In denial.

Not all parties in Israel are Zionist as claimed.

Plenty speak up for the Palestinians.

Called Israel apartheid when their is no official separation on the contrary I see Arabs every day at work, bus, train, st, malls, even where i live.

Nearly every western leader has critizised Israel another BS claim of no critizism due to Holocaust guilt. The EU is boycotting Israel over the green line with no legal basis. Suppose this is pro-Israel also?

SO AFTER WATCHING A PROPAGANDA DOCUMENTARY WRITTEN BY AN ISRAEL OPENLY HOSTILE TOWARDS ISRAEL WITH SO MANY LIES AND DISTORTIONS IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE CALLED A DOCUMENTARY.

It has people speaking from orgs such as Breaking the Silence, and Veterans today (whose own owner says is full of lies), obviously a bunch of extremists who want Israel to disappear and are willing to lie to reach their goal.

Balfour was only legally binding because it became part of the Mandate text. Which also gave the local non-Jewish population religious and civil rights.

So basically it uses people who run orgs which tell lies such as Veterans today and Breaking the Silence. They ignore all atrocities against Jews and many historical inaccuracies.

Since: Nov 12

Blacktown, Australia

#111104 Oct 27, 2013
Gray wrote:
FLUSHING A HASBRAT/TRAITOROUS "ISRAEL FIRSTER"
Since "NFL Fan" is unable to compose an honest, informative rebuttal we must enlighten "Him/her/it" with proof of my earlier observation:
Israel drives US Policy to America's detriment:
“Israel's Netanyahu calls for tighter Iran sanctions”
http://news.yahoo.com/israels-netanyahu-calls...
EXCERPT “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday called for sanctions on Iran to be strengthened to curb its atomic programme, which the Israeli leader said could lead to nuclear military abilities.” CONTINUED
Another example proving that Israel drives US Foreign policy to America's detriment:
“QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. &#146;03
“Facts and Quotations About How Zionists and Israelis Control America”
http://citizensfordemocracynj.org
"We control America"
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that ... I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." .....Ariel Sharon
The Israeli driven, US fought (ongoing) Iraq War has cost America dearly in Blood and Resources, yet our infestation of traitorous "Israel Firsters" cheerlead for more anti Islamic carnage with American Blood.
Yet our "Israel Firsters" are using the same lies to push for hostilities against other Muslim countries.
Why is America so deeply mired in today's bloody, Mid East Quagmire:
“I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government.  I just care that we get to keep running them.”         Joel Stein, Los Angeles Times, December 18, 2008.
Support America & Dump the Zionist Regime
Deporting our traitorous Zionist Propagandists would also be a nice touch!
Now, watch for the usual fact free, simple minded, Hasbrat insults!
It looks like Obama is travelling in the opposite direction to Netanyahu now.
Once bitten twice shy ,Obama's naivety seems to be receding , since he was suckered into the red line scenario.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is asking for sanctions against key Jew criminal settlements and their representatives .
Way to go Abbas.
Start the ball rolling , we the haters of Jew tyranny , will do all we can to help.
ArisePrincePeter

Liverpool, UK

#111105 Oct 27, 2013
Jim Justice wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand that this thread is your connection to the outside world, given your acute halitosis and mental health history.
You frighten only those in your neighborhood, and that is why they conspire, record and watch you.
Everybody needs a little love Ratty ... and your demonic satanic chanting rolls into the skies and reaches your god Lucifer. You please the Original Demon well Serpent Jew. How are the paws Ratty? OK for scratching about in your sewer?

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8.32..
ArisePrincePeter

Liverpool, UK

#111106 Oct 27, 2013
rtloder wrote:
<quoted text>
It looks like Obama is travelling in the opposite direction to Netanyahu now.
Once bitten twice shy ,Obama's naivety seems to be receding , since he was suckered into the red line scenario.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is asking for sanctions against key Jew criminal settlements and their representatives .
Way to go Abbas.
Start the ball rolling , we the haters of Jew tyranny , will do all we can to help.
Good see your 'haters of Jew tyranny'.... means none here hate Jews per se, just the barbarism thereof. I know the barbarism personally having being attacked here by Jews.
Woody

Duncanville, TX

#111107 Oct 27, 2013
Press TV — Oct 27, 2013

A leaked US intelligence document has revealed that Israel is behind the hacking of millions of phone calls and messages in France.

According to a report by Le Monde on Friday Israeli agents is behind a cyber attack against the communications networks of the Elysee Palace, intercepting more than 70 million calls and text messages a month.
ArisePrincePeter

Liverpool, UK

#111108 Oct 27, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
Orion as for the documentary you told me to watch.
King David Hotel was a military installation
There are no Jew only roads ut Palestinian settlement legal?
Maale Adumim in 95-99% Jewish owned.
Settlements are not part of Jerusaleccuracies.
How you love to lie!!!!! You take the black canvas that is Occupation Israel and paint bright colours over it in favour of a terrorist, apartheid, racist, oppressive, tyrannical, and murderous 'state'..... but below your bullshit colourful word-play lay the devil's playground: the most despised 'nation' on earth.
Woody

Duncanville, TX

#111109 Oct 27, 2013
The United States may have bugged Angela Merkel’s phone for more than 10 years, according to a news report on Saturday that also said President Barack Obama told the German leader he would have stopped it happening had he known about it.

Germany’s outrage over reports of bugging of Merkel’s phone by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) prompted it to summon the U.S. ambassador this week for the first time in living memory, an unprecedented post-war diplomatic rift.

Der Spiegel said Merkel’s mobile telephone had been listed by the NSA’s Special Collection Service (SCS) since 2002 – marked as “GE Chancellor Merkel”– and was still on the list weeks before Obama visited Berlin in June.
israel s color is yellow

Port Jefferson, NY

#111111 Oct 27, 2013
Subliminal Criminal wrote:
Presidents are puppetz so Im fairly certain that obama knew nuthing about it.
You Americans are wankers.
There were/are a few good Presidential men who told the zionist Marxist to DD.

Lincoln and the late great President John F Kennedy were these kind of human beings, who loved America and its Constitution.

They would try very hard to follow our founding father's Constitution and not give into jews' Federal Reserve Corp and Tribal Jewries subverting treasonous acts of lies, to extract our fpunding fathers ideology to their greedy cult agendas.

And when the English people calles us Americans wankers, they should know this fact, their Queen bee was spawned to rule over wankers and Brits have/is breast feeding Marxism since 1775, as their wanker limies watch and do what they do best,... wank!
Northeastern Truth seeker

Port Jefferson, NY

#111112 Oct 27, 2013
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L&P

The posting above about wankers excludes our Liverpool friend and Brits like Petesake, who have not sold and will not ever sell their souls to zionism j devils....
Petesake

Liverpool, UK

#111114 Oct 27, 2013
Northeastern Truth seeker wrote:
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L&P
The posting above about wankers excludes our Liverpool friend and Brits like Petesake, who have not sold and will not ever sell their souls to zionism j devils....
LOL... thanks friend ... I know there's a lot of Jewry in the UK that supports terrorism and violence against innocents.

Peace and Love

Petesake

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#111115 Oct 27, 2013
Peteskank wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL... thanks fiend ... I know there's a lot of Jewry in the UK

Piss and Loathing
Peteslag
Aw. It's so touching you think you actually have friends here, little racist.
Petesake

Liverpool, UK

#111118 Oct 27, 2013
Petesake wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL... thanks friend ... I know there's a lot of Jewry in the UK that supports terrorism and violence against innocents.
Peace and Love
Petesake
To be fair there are some honest brokers. Gerald Kaufmann for example is a Jew worthy of praise since he has repeatedly stood against the racist Zionist murderers of the likes of Gaza who we saw butcher 1300 women and children in 2008/9. He also occasionally lambasts the so-called 'friends of israel' in the House of Commons. All in all a decent Jew to boot.
"and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8.32
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111119 Oct 27, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are my 'fellows'? What paranioa? The British media is very hostile towards Israel as a whole like most Western countries.
What Jewish media? You are buying into Jews control the world and calling me Paranoid. There are plenty of Jews who are against Israel. So being Jewish means nothing on this subject. At the top of the anti-Israel orgs there is usually a Jew.
On the contrary I don't hear Jewish or Israeli leadership ever really stand up for Israels legal rights. Nor speak of the hatred throughout Palestinian society and the fact that Israel is negotiating with people who call for the destruction of Israel no matter what, even nuke Israel if they had a bomb, even with peace the 'refugees' won't be allowed to become part of the Palestinian state but will be used to destroy Israel once and for all.
Abbas for example was involved in the Munich Olympic massacre and numerous others, he is a holocaust denier and has openly admitted to sending terrorists to kill Israeli civilians. But Israel still tries to negotiate with him.
A few revisionists ignored the facts and created their own often opinion based perspective of the conflict which you have bought without questioning as it supports your hatred.
There are around 15million Jews in the world and it would be double without the Holocaust.
More conspiracies from you. Maybe you are typing too many posts so some get lost. I believe one of my posts to you on this forum didn't make it through for the same reason. But you automatically create this conspiracy theory that the Jews are doing it.
Jews rule the world...you have got it wrong...Hitler wanted to take over the world. LOL. Interesting, the Muslims in Britain objected to the Hoax story being put into school books, so it was taken out. The wheel is turning. Maybe it is time to come clean!
orion

Cape Town, South Africa

#111120 Oct 27, 2013
Petesake wrote:
<quoted text>
To be fair there are some honest brokers. Gerald Kaufmann for example is a Jew worthy of praise since he has repeatedly stood against the racist Zionist murderers of the likes of Gaza who we saw butcher 1300 women and children in 2008/9. He also occasionally lambasts the so-called 'friends of israel' in the House of Commons. All in all a decent Jew to boot.
"and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8.32
I agree. Not all Jews are bad. On the countrary they have contributed to our knowledge. The problem is that the bad ones are really bad and that the community will always line itself up behind the criminals in emergency. That is why Israel always refused to hand over war and other criminals to European and US courts.
Petesake

Prescot, UK

#111121 Oct 27, 2013
orion wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. Not all Jews are bad. On the countrary they have contributed to our knowledge. The problem is that the bad ones are really bad and that the community will always line itself up behind the criminals in emergency. That is why Israel always refused to hand over war and other criminals to European and US courts.
True orion ..very true

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#111122 Oct 27, 2013
In Saudi Arabia there is no provision for religious freedom in the constitution of this Islamic kingdom. All citizens must adhere to Islam and conversion to another religion is punishable by death. Public Christian worship is forbidden; worshipers risk imprisonment, lashing, deportation and torture. Evangelizing Muslims and distributing non-Islamic materials is illegal. Muslims who convert to Christianity risk honor killings and foreign Christian workers have been exposed to abuse from employers.

Christians in Iraq are on the verge of extinction. Large numbers of persecuted Christians have fled abroad or to the (until recently) safer Kurdish region, where they face unemployment and inadequate schooling, medical care and housing. The church faces many challenges – members being killed or abducted, and a lack of capable leaders.

Fearful of the increasing numbers of Christians, particularly in house churches, the Iranian regime closely monitors Christian activities, particularly churches that reach out to Muslims. Evangelism, Bible training and publishing Scriptures in Farsi are illegal. Detentions of Christians are common. Several persecuted Christians were forced to leave their homes or flee the country.

Before the bloody civil war in Syria, although meetings were monitored, Christians were respected in society, but this is rapidly changing. Muslim Background Believers (Christians from a Muslim Background) face opposition from family and friends, and also now from foreign extremist fighters and mercenaries. Previously, Christians were persecuted for supporting the government, or not taking sides. Now a clear religious motive has been added by the influx of these foreign radicals. Many Christians have been abducted, physically harmed and killed, churches damaged or destroyed, and tens of thousands of Christians have fled.

http://www.worldwatchlist.us/world-watch-list...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#111123 Oct 27, 2013
‘Gangs’ Seize and Tax Coptic Christian Property in Egypt
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-w...

Nigeria: Where Jihad and Christian Persecution Run Rampant
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/nigeria-w...

Two Churches Attacked in Syria: Crosses Broken and Al-Qaeda Flags Raised
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-w...

Bloody Weekend: Trend of Muslim Rage Against ‘Infidels’ Continues
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/bloody-we...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#111124 Oct 27, 2013
Spate of attacks on Shi'ite Muslims kills 59 people in Iraq Attacks on Shi'ite Muslims killed at least 59 people across Iraq on Thursday, including a suicide truck bomb targeting members of the country's Shabak minority, police and medics said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/17/us-...

Riots in Kenya After Killing of Muslim Cleric
Deadly riots broke out in the coastal city of Mombasa on Friday morning after a popular but controversial Muslim cleric was fatally shot in what his followers said they believed was an attack by the security services.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/world/afric...

Syria Death Toll at 115,000

More than 41,000 civilians have been killed in the two-and-a-half year civil war
Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/10/01/group-says-s...

Fresh attacks shatter relative calm in Egypt
Suspected militants killed nine people in attacks in Egypt on Monday, a day after clashes between Islamists and police left dozens dead and dashed hopes of restored calm after president Mohamed Morsi's ouster.

In south Sinai, a car bomb killed three people when it exploded outside provincial police headquarters, and gunmen shot dead six soldiers near the Suez Canal city of Ismailiya.

The attacks came a day after Islamists, hoping to galvanise their flagging protest movement, clashed with police as they tried to march on a Cairo square steeped in symbolism.
http://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/fresh-attack...

Since: Nov 12

Blacktown, Australia

#111125 Oct 27, 2013
ArisePrincePeter wrote:
<quoted text>
Good see your 'haters of Jew tyranny'.... means none here hate Jews per se, just the barbarism thereof. I know the barbarism personally having being attacked here by Jews.


Yes , I wish you every blessing possible, and my my prayers would need to be redirected by satin himself to prevent them reaching you.

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