Stockton will feel Vallejo's bankrupt...

Stockton will feel Vallejo's bankruptcy pain

There are 6 comments on the Vallejo Times-Herald story from Apr 2, 2013, titled Stockton will feel Vallejo's bankruptcy pain. In it, Vallejo Times-Herald reports that:

The people of Stockton will feel financial fallout for years after a federal judge ruled Monday to let the city become the most populous in the nation to enter bankruptcy.

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land of OZ

Hayward, CA

#1 Apr 2, 2013
Stockton's taxpayers pockets picked by the union
Ex- El Paso Resident

Las Cruces, NM

#2 Apr 2, 2013
Wait until the likes of LA, San Francisco and San Diego start down this path. They are well on their way if you go look at their balance sheets and future obligations to retired city workers.

Will make the Stockton deal look like a pop corn fart in a hurricane.

Stupidity is doing the same thing over again and again and expecting different results.

Video killed the radio start and public unions killed CA.
Bald Fat man in a Hula

Vallejo, CA

#4 Apr 3, 2013
If Stockton is to get the full effect of what happened to Vallejo sammie would need to move there and continue to make an as s of himself.

(t)urd enragement!

Stockton, CA

#5 Apr 3, 2013
Contra Costa Times Editorial 4/3/2013
Opinion piece about the Stockton Bankruptcy:

Federal Judge Christopher Klein's ruling Monday that Stockton, the nation's largest city to seek bankruptcy protection, is indeed insolvent sets the stage for what could be a landmark case that determines who takes a haircut.

Will it be the bond holders, especially the mutual funds, who invested in the city without properly vetting its finances? Or the firms that insured those bonds without adequately assessing the risk?

Will it be the California Public Employees' Retirement System, the nation's largest pension fund, which misled Stockton and local governments across the state about the cost of benefits? Or the workers, whose labor unions pushed for more when they knew, or should have known, that fattened pensions could eventually break the budget?

At the center of the showdown over debt write-offs looms the question of whether public employee pensions remain untouchable even at times of financial crisis. California retirement systems work under the legal assumption that a public employee's pension formula can never be reduced, not even for future work.

The protection stems from the state and federal constitutions, which say government agencies shall not impair contract obligations. While the California Supreme Court has upheld the state protection, the U.S. Supreme Court has said the federal provision is not absolute.

But what happens when a California pension showdown reaches federal bankruptcy court? This is new legal territory. "There are very complex and difficult questions of law that I can see out there on the horizon," Judge Klein said, in what can only be described as understatement.
We would not be here but for the irresponsible behavior of past Stockton officials. They thought the housing boom would never end, that the level in the property tax well would continue to rise.

So they promised fat salary and benefit packages to their workers. They borrowed to fund a new City Hall, an events center and arena, housing projects, parking garages, marina improvements, a fire station, a police communications center and parks and street improvements.

And then, as Stockton became the poster child for the foreclosure crisis, tax revenues sank rapidly.

It was the sort of bet against future income that has become a standard form of school and municipal finance: Promise employees benefits that will become more costly with time. Pay for construction with bonds that depend on rising tax revenues for repayment.

Self-interested bond-sellers and shortsighted labor leaders, who don't think about repercussions down the line, enable this taxpayer-funded scheme. Campaign-contribution-hungry politicians carry it out.

For those who think public officials have learned their lesson, think again. As they watch Stockton, how many will offer their employees compensation increases that depend on rising revenues? How many will float bonds with aggressive repayment schedules?
And how many of them will someday meet the same fate as Stockton?
new hate list

Vacaville, CA

#6 Apr 4, 2013
Wow sammy, looks like there are VIBers in Stockton too. You better get some more paper to add more names to your list. Are you going to start calling the people of Stockton union busters? Cop haters? Maybe you can fill up their topix board with your name calling bs? I'm sure they would welcome your input.

Watch out land of OZ. Sam will list you as another cop hater.
land of OZ wrote:
Stockton's taxpayers pockets picked by the union

Since: Aug 11

South San Francisco, CA

#7 Apr 14, 2013
Stockton or Vallejo. There's a horse race for the biggest s hole in n cal. Napalm solution

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