Immigration Enforcement? Yes, We Can!

Immigration Enforcement? Yes, We Can!

There are 176 comments on the story from Aug 21, 2008, titled Immigration Enforcement? Yes, We Can!. In it, reports that:

What to do about illegal immigration? Too many people are paralyzed by the magnitude of the problem, and figure that since we can’t deport them all, we’ll have to bite the bullet and let them all stay legally — i.e., give them amnesty.

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Raymond, KS

#190 Aug 27, 2008

Double standard

Here in the U.S. an illegal immigrant gets a hearing in federal court. In Mexico, an illegal often gets whacked upside the head before he or she is thrown into the river that marks the border between Mexico and Guatemala. If an American border patrol agent threw an illegal immigrant into the Rio Grande we’d never hear the end of it from Mexican officials and the ACLU, who’d be hollering about the alleged constitutional “rights” of immigrants. Again, a double standard prevails.

“Look, this (illegal border crossing) is a business,” a Mexican university professor told National Geographic. He meant not only the daily business along the riverbank, but also the broader interactions between desperately poor immigrants “and the fierce economic pull from the north.” That’s why illicit border-crossers are willing to pay “coyotes”(human smugglers) between $5,000 and $7,000 to sneak them into Mexico, and on into the U.S.

“More sophisticated international operations charge several times that amount to smuggle migrants who have reached Central America by sea or by air,” the magazine added, leaving open the possibility that some of those illegal immigrants come from the war-torn Middle East, where terrorism is a way of life. Consider that ominous possibility the next time a presidential candidate advocates amnesty disguised as “comprehensive immigration reform.” No thanks!

As I’ve noted many times, thousands of illegal immigrants are involved in the drug trade as the tentacles of Mexican drug cartels reach all the way into Northern Nevada. My guess is that most of the suspects arrested in a huge Tri-Net drug bust in Carson last month were illegals, as were those gang bangers who took a shot at a local sheriff’s deputy a couple of weeks ago. Our state prison system is already overburdened with illegal immigrant criminals, with more on the way.

The admirable efforts of the Carson City anti-meth coalition should include an immediate crackdown on illegals and gang activity. We should treat them the same way that Mexican authorities treat theirs - by deporting them right back to where they came from.

• Guy W. Farmer, of Carson City, served in Mexico and several other Latin American countries during his 28-year career in the U.S. Foreign Service.

Raymond, KS

#191 Aug 27, 2008
Newspaper Quote from raid in Mississippi!

"Elizabeth Alegria, 26, a Mexican immigrant, was working at the plant Monday when ICE agents stormed in. When they found out she has two sons, ages 4 and 9, she was fitted with a bracelet and told to appear in federal court next month. Her husband, Andres, was not so lucky.

"I'm very traumatized because I don't know if they are going to let my husband go and when I will see him," Elizabeth Alegria said through a translator Tuesday as she returned to the Howard Industries parking lot to retrieve her sport utility vehicle.

"We have kids without dads and pregnant mothers who got their husbands taken away," said Velez's son, Robert, youth pastor at the church. "It was like a horror story. They got handled like they were criminals."


They are Criminals!

Did you notice the Elizabeth had to have a translator,But drove a sports utility vehicle? Gee,how did she get her drivers license?

Raymond, KS

#192 Aug 27, 2008
Debunking Pro-Mexican-Immigration Propaganda

Raymond, KS

#195 Aug 29, 2008
Man charged in Ariz. crash that killed 9 migrants

PHOENIX (Reuters)- The Mexican driver of a vehicle that flipped on an Arizona highway, killing nine illegal immigrants, has been charged by a federal grand jury and could face the death penalty if convicted, authorities said on Wednesday.

The U.S. Attorney's office in Phoenix said Brian Guzman-Ochoa faced six charges stemming from the crash on August 7, in which a sport utility vehicle crammed with 19 illegal immigrants ran off a highway southeast of Phoenix, killing nine people and injuring 10 others.

Raymond, KS

#196 Aug 29, 2008
Ceptfer wrote:
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Wow! Assuming that your post stands up under scrutiny which is why links are helpful, this one we can agree on! Probably nothing more than coincidence. Do you know how many actually voted? Or, did they use the docs just for the other purpose?
And these are the kind of people you think deserve American citizenship?

Raymond, KS

#197 Aug 29, 2008
NORTH COUNTY– The president of the MEChA club at Palomar College has been deported to Mexico, immigration officials said Wednesday.

Paola Oropeza, 22, was arrested Jan. 8 by a fugitive operations team with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said Lauren Mack, a spokeswoman for the department in San Diego.

Oropeza had been ordered to leave the country by an immigration judge, but failed to comply with that order, Mack said. At the time of her arrest, Oropeza was in the country illegally and was taken to Tijuana, Mack said.

Oropeza did not have a criminal record, Mack said, but could not provide details about her immigration background. Oropeza was arrested along with three other people who are believed to be her family members, Mack said. One is still in deportation proceedings.

When reached on a cell phone Wednesday, Oropeza declined to comment. She said her attorney has advised her not to talk to the media.

Raymond, KS

#198 Aug 29, 2008
A privately employed social worker charged with eight others in the starvation death of 14-year-old Danieal Kelly was in federal custody yesterday facing deportation, accused of lying on his application for U.S. citizenship.
Julius Juma Murray, 51, was arrested Aug. 5 by immigration agents and charged with making a false statement under oath when he applied for a U.S. visa in 1997 and in his naturalization application on July 10.

The U.S. Attorney's Office said Murray was scheduled for a hearing today before a federal judge in Philadelphia.

August 14, 2008
Joseph A. Slobodzian
The Philadelphia Inquirer

Murray, of Upper Darby, was one of two employees of a private social-services company, MultiEthnic Behavioral Health Inc., charged in Kelly's death.

MultiEthnic - now closed - was under contract to the city Department of Human Services, and Murray was assigned as the social worker helping provide care to Kelly and her eight siblings.

Instead, alleged the July 31 grand-jury report that resulted in the criminal charges, Murray provided so little care he was almost a "ghost employee."

Murray was charged with involuntary manslaughter, criminal conspiracy, endangering the welfare of children, and a series of counts involving record-tampering.

Also charged was Mikal Kamuvaka, 59, a founder of MultiEthnic, which got $3.5 million from DHS from 2001 until its contracts were ended after Kelly's Aug. 4, 2006, death.

Kamuvaka is a native of Namibia. At a hearing Monday in Municipal Court, a city prosecutor argued unsuccessfully that she was a flight risk and should be on electronic monitoring because Namibia has no extradition treaty with the United States. Kamuvaka was freed on $200,000 bail and surrendered her passport.

Kelly had cerebral palsy and lived in West Philadelphia with her mother, Andrea Kelly, and siblings when she died. Authorities determined that Danieal Kelly, her body pocked with festering bedsores, starved to death in her bed. The 14-year-old weighed 42 pounds - as much as the typical 5-year-old.

Andrea Kelly, 39, was charged with murder and her estranged husband, Daniel Kelly, 37, with child endangerment. The District Attorney's Office also charged two DHS social workers and three of Andrea Kelly's friends.

Raymond, KS

#200 Aug 30, 2008
"The making of an American begins at the point where he himself rejects all other ties, any other history, and himself adopts the vesture of his adopted land." - James Baldwin

Raymond, KS

#201 Aug 30, 2008

In 2007, a total of 1,052,415 persons became LPRs of the United States (see Table 1 and Figure 1). The majority of new LPRs (59 percent) already lived in the United States when they were granted lawful permanent resi-dence. Two-thirds were granted permanent residence based on a family relationship with a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident of the United States. The leading countries of birth of new LPRs were Mexico (14 percent), China (7 percent) and the Philippines (7 percent).

Raymond, KS

#202 Aug 30, 2008
Posted by: Christian P. Milord | 07/10/2008 7:31 AM

As Senators McCain and Obama criss-cross the country and attempt to win over Latinos, they have kept their distance from a nagging problem that cuts across all party lines as an all American issue. This is of course the persistent challenge of illegal immigration, which is a matter of cultural, economic, health, and national security. The candidates should discuss this crucial issue because most voting Hispanics oppose illegal immigration.

During prior centuries, people moved and wandered about more freely because geopolitical borders were either absent, or national boundaries were fluid. However, in the 20th century, most nations developed greater sovereignty and well defined borders for a number of reasons.

The USA is a land of immigrants, and legal immigration has helped to make this nation a great democratic republic. Although Americans have usually welcomed legal immigration, our society can't absorb great numbers of illegal immigrants. Indeed, the current immigration system is both unfair and untenable. Just imagine hordes of undocumented Americans sneaking into other countries to work and demand rights. It's hard to visualize because no other nation would put up with it.
It is the duty of Congress to write laws, and the duty of the Executive to enforce laws that protect Americans and reflect the will of law abiding citizens. Unfortunately, in 2007 Congress ignored the failures of the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Bill (IRCA), and some members tried to repeat history. The 1986 amnesty only encouraged illegal immigrants to further defy the rule of law.
Last year, Congress underestimated the intelligence of the American people and attempted to pass a type of "qualified" amnesty. Illegal migrants could someday gain the same rights as legal residents by adhering to a number of requirements such as paying a fine, learning English, etc. However, the new bill stalled because Americans realized that it would reward lawbreakers and punish legal immigrants. Citizenship is not for sale.

Illegal immigration advocates often claim that undocumented workers merely want to work, and we should bring them "out of the shadows" by offering a pathway to legalization. So what if most of them work hard! American citizens and legal immigrants work hard, and they usually offer this country better skills and a healthy respect for the rule of law. Moreover, most Americans I know do their own manual labor around the house.

Indeed, illegal immigrants don't work in the shadows. They take advantage of our infrastructure and our social services in broad daylight, which creates a huge strain on American taxpayers. Since these illegals ignored the law by sneaking into our country, isn't it easier to thumb their noses at other laws once they start living here?

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#203 Aug 30, 2008
Ceptfer wrote:
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Blah Blah more of Lou Dobbs and the CIS baloney. Hardly a reputable source for discussion.
This contradicts the opinion of 90% of economists.
You are obtuse and clueless. CIS has often used studies done by the Pew Hispanic Center for their information...if they weren't reputable I hardly think they'd look to the Pew Hispanic Center for *any* information.

Try again.

Someone's personal blog is certainly not's nothing more than OPINION.

“Assimilate & Speak English!”

Since: Jan 07

Lansing, IL - now: Pomp Bch FL

#204 Aug 30, 2008
Ceptfer wrote:
"Author: Ann
Ahwahnee, CA
In 1986 our Congressional leaders passed an immigration reform Bill into law
that was to rid us of the burdens caused by illegal immigration. 2.5,
million illegal aliens were granted amnesty. Some on this thread benefited
from the generous gift of US citizenship but still hold an allegiance to
their mother country and not to this country that has given them so much
I did benefit from IRCA 1986. Aside from my pay, I got the pleasure of legalizing some people that have made very good Americans, better than at least some on this thread.
Just a point of clarification. These people did not get "citizenship" they got permission to stay and work legally. They still had to go through the procedures and meet all the requisites prior to becoming a citizen. And as far as loyalties go, I've never known one person who became a citizen that wanted to return to Mexico other than to, invest, vacation and visit with family. And thanks to the antics of people like Rebel, many more have decided to become citizens so that they could vote. That's the silver lining.
We should revoke that 1986 Amnesty or, at the very least, revoke it for those people like YOU who now advocate for the current illegals rather than citizens and legal residents. This country does NOT need illegal aliens. Not now. Not ever.

You're not American, nor will you ever be. You're just trash from south of the border who lucked out.

Raymond, KS

#205 Aug 31, 2008
I love it when the pro amnesty group runs out of comments and throw out the old "Xenophobia" or race card quote. You people are so dependable.

"Immigration refers to the movement of people between countries. While the
movement of people has existed throughout human history at various levels,
modern immigration implies long-term, legal, permanent residence. Short-term
visitors and tourists are considered non-immigrants (see expatriate).
Immigration across national borders in a way that violates the immigration
laws of the destination country is termed illegal immigration."

"Illegal immigration refers to immigration across national borders in a way
that violates the immigration laws of the destination country. Under this
definition, an illegal immigrant is a foreigner who either has illegally
crossed an international political border, be it by land, water, or air, or
a foreigner who has entered a country legally but then overstays his/her
visa. "

Enough said!

Raymond, KS

#206 Sep 1, 2008
CARROLLTON, Texas - Maria Martinez' attempt to land a cafeteria job at a suburban Dallas hospital got her arrested, jailed and deported.

She did use a counterfeit social security on her application to Trinity Medical Center, but her relatives and supporters wonder whether the hospital overreacted by calling the police.

During yet another year marked by several high profile immigration raids targeting both undocumented workers and the companies who hire them, the Martinez case raises questions about what employers can or should do if they discover an applicant is not authorized to work legally in the U.S.

A spokeswoman for the medical center here contends the hospital was simply following policy and has a responsibility to report criminal activity, including possible identity theft.

It may be hospital policy, but employers aren't required to report a worker or applicant suspected of being in the U.S. illegally, say immigration attorneys and enforcement officials.

"For an employer to go ahead and take it upon themselves ... to report that is unusual," said immigration attorney Kathleen Walker. "There's no obligation on my part to go call law enforcement."

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Carl Rusnok agreed, saying employers and local police typically don't have the training needed to determine whether someone is in the country illegally.

Carrollton's mayor has emphasized that one of his priorities is to rid the city of illegal immigrants. The neighboring suburb of Farmers Branch has unsuccessfully tried to prohibit landlords from renting houses and apartments to tenants who cannot prove they are in the U.S. legally.

But hospital spokeswoman Susan Watson said the decision to report Martinez had nothing to do with the immigration debate in suburban Dallas. The hospital reported what it considered a crime, she said.

"Regardless of whether they were an illegal alien, legal immigrant or an American citizen, it still wouldn't have mattered. They still would have been reported," she said.

Raymond, KS

#207 Sep 1, 2008

Columbus, OH

#209 Apr 30, 2013
Great post, thanks for sharing. All I can think about is the immigration attorney in Irvine CA, and how stressful it would be to deal with stuff like this. It's interesting to see it from both sides.

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