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Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#1 Feb 5, 2011
Sorry, I needed title that would draw atention. This town has the most negative collection of posts than any I've found in Ok and AR on Topix.
To all the decent people on here (which I KNOW to be at least 75% of the posters) PLEASE report and requet all negative/gossipy threds be shut down.
UNLESS THE THEAD ORIGINATOR IS LISTING THEIR OWN NAMES! Then we can call 'freedom of speech' or at least say they have enough backbone to stand behind their words

In the age of cyberbullying and (in some cases) subsequent suicides, I cannot believe this site is allowing such threads. This is an issue I have taken up with the site administrators and local/ Green Country media outlets. Please, in the meantime, do your part, to shut down the threads. The 'report abuse' option is rather effectve if only a few people report it. Again, I KNOW the majority of people on these forum are good and decent and wish to use it mostly for news and community events similar to mot towns.
Thanks for your time
Thanks

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#2 Feb 5, 2011
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech whether you are anonymous or not. I've never heard of Joey Sophee if that is your real name. If you don't like it don't read it, simple as that.
Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#4 Feb 5, 2011
Freedom of speech (a common but hardly researched defense in matters like this) is great when there is an even fashion for the slandered party to defend themself. In regards to the practice of naming threads after people so you can ANONYMOUSLY invite gossip is borderlining on slander and again gieven the current social climate for such activities that have ended with sensitive people killin themselves out of embarrassmnt, I would hope you 1st amendment rights would take a backseat to decency, general humanity or at least having the backbone to allow them to face their accuser directly.
The constitution is cowardly card to play when all I am advocating is the higher road of decorum.

My stepdad lives their and I would've graudated from Stilwell in 1999 but transferred to Fayetteville after my Aunt passed.

Anyways, just consider what I said. Nobody wants to see their Mom insulted and not even know if
it a decietful and disloyal friend.

And 'Tuco' please clarify who the 'ba tard' reference was directed
Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#6 Feb 5, 2011
Tuco, well-Hell's Bells- I was HALFway hoping you were inarticulately supporting both my point (and beastiality from the sounds of it) but wanted to make sure.
Well, Joey Butta-tuco, I think that's cute the local school system has left you with the inaccurate understanding that 'insult' mean the same as 'ejaculate' but I'm afraid you'll have to 'insult' prematurely on someone else tonight.
Actually, from what weve heard, it would be 2 minutes of slapping your dick against your leg to try and make something happen, similar to what you do with a glo stick or poppin fresh dough, then 5 minutes of explanations, then 15 minutes of hugging and apologizing. You should record it to supplement your income. Id still buy it, but only to boost my self esteem. Until you express yourself with some manner of intelligence to the point I don't think my mom would find what loooked like 2 gerbils having mud wrestled in the back of your tightie whities, I think I'll get my her some batteries- confident in your ability to find a replacement. Might be a dry spell until your next family reunion though.
Oreilly's doesn't close til 9 though, right? I know that's a late start but it's cool, just wear your workshirt and use your obvious berbal game to explain to the ladies that you're a 'corporate man'.
Try to make sure she's of th age on consent and rolled in flour so you don't use the same hole as whn you romance the sheep.
Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#7 Feb 5, 2011
And to intelligent people who come upon this thread and are the susually silent majority, please just try to do the right thing by calling 'B.S.' and notifying the site administrators when you you find threads like the one I mentioned. It's a small decent act that small towns used to be known for! That's the only dialogue I'm trying to promote here
Thanks
J

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#8 Feb 5, 2011
It doesn't matter what you think is "great", freedom of speech is a constitutional right. This right is guaranteed whether you are anonymous or not. I'm sure a lot of what goes on out here could qualify as character assassination but there is a lot of truth also and I'll put up with the slander to hear the truth. Just because it is negative or hurtful does not mean it isn't true. Maybe you should do more than put a little yellow ribbon on your truck to "support the troops", maybe you should research the meaning of freedom before you and idiots like you give it all away.

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#9 Feb 5, 2011
tuco wrote:
sounds like a ba tard. shouldn't the sheep have a little freedom as well
"He" sounds like some other ba tards that come out here to defend the good character of known pedophiles and rapists. If I find "Joey" I plan to punch him in the face.
agitator

Fayetteville, AR

#10 Feb 5, 2011
The title of your thread is probably very offensive to many of our female readers.Shame on you!

Since: Oct 10

United States

#11 Feb 5, 2011
a lot of people have tried to be positive, but there are always the people who have to say ugly hurtful things
right on

Broken Arrow, OK

#12 Feb 5, 2011
I totally agree! Topix is for community news etc. No one cares who is sleeping with who, or who's husband is cheating on his wife, or which crack head is looking for a new crack dealer.

I just wish people knew how to respect others and privacy boundaries, but then again THIS IS STILWELL lol

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#13 Feb 5, 2011
Workin Mans Wife wrote:
a lot of people have tried to be positive, but there are always the people who have to say ugly hurtful things
Right on cue, the original BA Tard. I remember all the positive constructive comments you made about Indians, something about us all being drunks and on welfare. I don't know about other Indians in town but I felt empowered by those words, empowered to put my boot in your a$$. Like most of the idiots out here you only get upset when people talk about you or people you care about. Freedom of speech isn't a one way street.
Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#14 Feb 6, 2011
Thank you to those who see my point. And while I don't quite see how women would be offended by the thread title {as opposed to say lonely farmers:)} I really do apologize. Unfortunately, I still feel it was necessary b/c previous pleas by other people seem to go somewhat un-viewed.

To Left Hooverville, I have read some of your other posts and found many of them to be balanced and logical. That said, you have to understand, bashing is fine but when a THREAD IS NAMED AFTER AN ACTUAL PERSON, it comes up in google searches on that inidiviual and could affect job pursuits and other situations. If a parent loses a chance at job b/c of a thread, can you still really it's worth 'freedom of speech'?
And I STILL ask-WHY NOT USE YOUR REAL NAME AND STAND BEHIND YOUR WORDS (ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CONSTITTUTION ISN'T DESIGNED TO DEFENDS COWARDS)
I'm just trying to promote deceny and taking the highger road. I've read threads here and you can't really call them 'informative'. Buy a news paper or go to the 'news' thread. Besides, I'm talking about PEOPLE not events.

And to the other points you tried to make to prop up your weak defense of my point.
I'm a firm poponent of constant tracking devices on rapists and pedohpiles and even castration for repeat offenders.(quite a few good info on these solutions being used successsfully in other cultures) and about my insulting indians? Uhm you really pulled that of of your rear b/c I have know idea what you're talking about. You must be confused b/c again, I USE MY NAME IN ALL OF MY POSTS. I'm glad it apparently empowered you though.
Just stick to the point and my point is THAT THE TREADS TITLED AFTER SPECIFIC PEOPLE deleted. Even the site administrators agreed they shouldn't be left open for long terms that invite random slander ( have you forgotten about the Facebok and Myspace induced suicides? You even care?)
Really, jut read up on the down sides to thi issue before arguing against my stance.
Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#15 Feb 6, 2011
Workin Mans Wife wrote:
a lot of people have tried to be positive, but there are always the people who have to say ugly hurtful things
Yes maam, I know and it's unfortunae they do so WITHOUT the backbone to identify themselves and that is I'm encouraging those treads be reported under the 'report abuse' option.
If a comment is inappropriate, they pull he comment and if the thread is salnderous, they pull the WHOLE thread and try to notify who started it.
Don't be afaid to report them.
Muse

United States

#16 Feb 6, 2011
Left Hooverville wrote:
<quoted text>
Right on cue, the original BA Tard. I remember all the positive constructive comments you made about Indians, something about us all being drunks and on welfare. I don't know about other Indians in town but I felt empowered by those words, empowered to put my boot in your a$$. Like most of the idiots out here you only get upset when people talk about you or people you care about. Freedom of speech isn't a one way street.
I think you have been sniffing too much of turd creek air, or maybe it was brown drink the water, but either way you need to go back and read my posts i have never said a word against any race of people,,,sorry dude, you're losing it
Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#17 Feb 6, 2011
Muse wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you have been sniffing too much of turd creek air, or maybe it was brown drink the water, but either way you need to go back and read my posts i have never said a word against any race of people,,,sorry dude, you're losing it
I wondered what the heck they were referencing! Lol.
No worries, that just got pulled out of their rear b/c they lacked the intelectual steam to fuel their argument about anonymously (chickensh1ts) insulting people and the fact the threads show up in google searches.
I was accused of supporting rapists and pedophiles when thy could no longer defend anonymou internet creulty as opposed to saying it to their face

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#18 Feb 6, 2011
Muse wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you have been sniffing too much of turd creek air, or maybe it was brown drink the water, but either way you need to go back and read my posts i have never said a word against any race of people,,,sorry dude, you're losing it
LMAO, isn't this your first post on this thread "Muse", aka, working ho? Busted again.

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#19 Feb 6, 2011
The constitution was written to guarantee some basic rights to white land owners (anonymous wasn't as important in those days as gender and skin color). Since then it has, at least in theory, been stretched to apply to all American citizens. You are all over the place with your post so I'll attempt to address some of your points but since we disagree at a fundamental level it's unlikely either of us will change the other's mind.
Joey Sophee wrote:
I have read some of your other posts and found many of them to be balanced and logical.
Thank you, I really appreciate my fans, even the stupid ones like you.
Joey Sophee wrote:
That said, you have to understand, bashing is fine but when a THREAD IS NAMED AFTER AN ACTUAL PERSON, it comes up in google searches on that inidiviual and could affect job pursuits and other situations. If a parent loses a chance at job b/c of a thread, can you still really it's worth 'freedom of speech'?
Freedom of speech is worth many American lives so I guess if it's worth that it would be worth more than somebody's job. Honestly I wouldn't be wanting to work for somebody who does their reference checking on a gossip forum.
Joey Sophee wrote:
And I STILL ask-WHY NOT USE YOUR REAL NAME AND STAND BEHIND YOUR WORDS (ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CONSTITTUTION ISN'T DESIGNED TO DEFENDS COWARDS)
I can't speak for others. I choose to remain anonymous because the people I talk about kill people that disagree with them. I don't kill people and would prefer to avoid being killed. This forum is a great tool for those of us that were not born with a silver thumb in our arse.
Joey Sophee wrote:
I'm just trying to promote deceny and taking the highger road. I've read threads here and you can't really call them 'informative'. Buy a news paper or go to the 'news' thread. Besides, I'm talking about PEOPLE not events.
And to the other points you tried to make to prop up your weak defense of my point.
I have not defended your points at all, weakly or otherwise. I think your points show a complete misunderstanding of even the simplest definition of freedom. You use the abusers of freedom as an example of why we shouldn't have freedom at all. Why would you want to know the names of others if not to retaliate in some fashion? Either by slandering their name or suiciding them.
Joey Sophee wrote:
Just stick to the point and my point is THAT THE TREADS TITLED AFTER SPECIFIC PEOPLE deleted. Even the site administrators agreed they shouldn't be left open for long terms that invite random slander ( have you forgotten about the Facebok and Myspace induced suicides? You even care?)
Really, jut read up on the down sides to thi issue before arguing against my stance.
If there weren't any guns people wouldn't get killed (by guns anyway). Maybe if we all sewed our mouths shut people wouldn't get offended by things we say. The sad reality is that this gossip here is the same type of gossip that has gone on for centuries. Much of it is crap but that's pretty obvious. But sometimes you hear some good truths like the fat cat farmers, cookson hills, crozier's incompetence in the ice storm, catron's rape accusations, etc, etc. The DJ would never print this stuff because they print what they are told. For all the vile bs that you come across out here there is that much more dirt that needs to be told. What's great about this country is you can start your own forum where you can decide what is on it and what is cut out. Then you and your upper crust buddies can write posts that make the crap you do smell like the roses you wish it smelled like. I won't be reading it though. I'll be on Topix reading the truth.
Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#20 Feb 6, 2011
You do realize, all you're dong is defending the right to insult and slander people?
Robert Frost said "Good fences make good neighbors." this implies a simple respect for the moral high ground and respect for privacy. My point is that people coulde e related or even to those listed of.
The fact that this is a gossip column (btw, it's NOT advertsied as that but AGAIN, A COMMUNITY forum) the fact you use to bad mouth people that you're afraid willi kill you is your spineless burden ( and one I will revisit in future posts, you coward).
The fact fact is, I'm just asking you be DECENT and instead you want to hide behind American born right instead of posting your nae OR just refaining from slander and taking the high road. Your inability to sympathize just reflects your fear of fellow citizens.
Coincidentally, a similar subject was covered this morning. Please look at it and just consider the fact that some of these people have others who depend on them. Compromise in this matter is not failure as long as it invokes intelligent thought: www.cbsnews.com/stories/.../sunday/main732314...

Joey Sophee

Broken Arrow, OK

#21 Feb 6, 2011
Hooverville, You're right, Im sure - when I issue a plea to just be a considerate, sympathetic person, just hide behind the constitution and
AND SAY THAT IT DEFENDS YOUR RGHT TO BE A FACELESS COWARD WHO DOESN'T CARE IF YOUR VICTIMS KIDS OR FAMILY READS IT. Yeah, good point. You probably skipped church to sober up and get ready for the Super Bowl. Ingorance. I hope everyone else can aspire to better
J.

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#22 Feb 6, 2011
It's getting old, we are both saying the same thing over and over. You equate this site to nothing but slander. Slander is against the law and if you are slandered then you can take that up with the court and I hope you win because I am against slander as well. So, we both believe that slander shouldn't be protected on this forum or any other (digital, or even two old ladies gossiping over the back fence).

Where we differ (I think) is that you believe hurtful things (even if they are true) shouldn't be discussed here. I believe if it is true then it should be discussed here and anywhere else the person wants to discuss it. If they don't feel like identifying themselves then that is their business. If you want to take the high road and not discuss negative things then I support your FREEDOM to do that. But, you can't take away somebody else's FREEDOM to do otherwise when they have been wronged.

What is topix if it isn't a gossip forum? Don't be naive, that is absolutely the intent. Make no mistake about it Topix is a business, here to make money. They make money every time one of those ads at the top of your screen is displayed. They also make money when people send them money to have a post removed.
Joey Sophee wrote:
You do realize, all you're dong is defending the right to insult and slander people?
Robert Frost said "Good fences make good neighbors." this implies a simple respect for the moral high ground and respect for privacy. My point is that people coulde e related or even to those listed of.
The fact that this is a gossip column (btw, it's NOT advertsied as that but AGAIN, A COMMUNITY forum) the fact you use to bad mouth people that you're afraid willi kill you is your spineless burden ( and one I will revisit in future posts, you coward).
The fact fact is, I'm just asking you be DECENT and instead you want to hide behind American born right instead of posting your nae OR just refaining from slander and taking the high road. Your inability to sympathize just reflects your fear of fellow citizens.
Coincidentally, a similar subject was covered this morning. Please look at it and just consider the fact that some of these people have others who depend on them. Compromise in this matter is not failure as long as it invokes intelligent thought: www.cbsnews.com/stories/.../sunday/main732314...

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