Sneaker

Cordele, GA

#42 May 6, 2009
Glad you admit it. I doubt you have any best friends....nobody knows the real story and it was their choice of getting high (if they did) not anyone elses.

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#43 May 6, 2009
Whose choice was it to shoot them? I guess they sealed their fate by getting high with a person capable of shooting them in the back?
Sneaker

Cordele, GA

#44 May 6, 2009
I'll let you figure that one out, since your so worried about it. Good luck!

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#45 May 6, 2009
Sneaker wrote:
I'll let you figure that one out, since your so worried about it. Good luck!
It doesn't take a sleuth to figure it out when Garrett admitted to doing it. I'm just curious since you seem like somebody that might know, did Garrett ever kill anybody that wasn't high or had an even break?
sNEAKY

United States

#46 May 7, 2009
We need a poll to see who is the lowest, hoover or the garretts. i would have to vote for the low-life garrwtts. Wonder how many means think highly of a garrwtts. Us jews would never forget hitler and i doubt the means will forget garrwetts.

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#47 May 7, 2009
sNEAKY wrote:
We need a poll to see who is the lowest, hoover or the garretts. i would have to vote for the low-life garrwtts. Wonder how many means think highly of a garrwtts. Us jews would never forget hitler and i doubt the means will forget garrwetts.
That would be a tough one, may I suggest an entry for equally as low. After all I did post "Electrocute the Crozier" one time. I don't think Ken would have done that. However, if Ken and Crozier ever got high together Ken may have shot him in the back when he wasn't paying attention. So I guess we're pretty even in terms of our lowness, we just express it in different ways.
The Ghost

United States

#48 May 7, 2009
Sneaker wrote:
Your a very low person Hoover, you comment more than everyone. Move on...This happened many years ago.
Okay, so whats you suggestion we should talk about next???
squirelly girly

Fayetteville, AR

#49 May 7, 2009
I do find it interesting that Ken Garrett was shot at the Hart Homestead and across the road lived a Means daughter and brotherin law...very interesting indeed...
God Fearing

United States

#50 May 7, 2009
The means are good god fearing people and would never sink so low as to commit such a crime.

“I Play Fair!”

Since: Jan 09

Stilwell, OK

#51 May 7, 2009
squirelly girly wrote:
I do find it interesting that Ken Garrett was shot at the Hart Homestead and across the road lived a Means daughter and brotherin law...very interesting indeed...
I think I know you Squirelly Girly!!!!!!
Many Moons

Sycamore, GA

#52 May 7, 2009
How about the brotherinlaw though Cox hear he has some drug issues himself...

Since: May 09

Siloam Springs, AR

#53 May 7, 2009
Here is what I don't understand. I did a report on this a few years back and got really confused. Did Ken kill both of them by accident like he testified or was it a drug deal gone bad. The Means brothers especially Bryce was in the dope game too. I've talked to many people who have said that they use to get "their stuff" from him. See after the murders happened, Ken turned himself in after talking to his uncle who was an attorney at the time, later a judge and his father. They convinced him to go to the sheriffs house and turn himself in. The sheriff after locking Ken up went to his trailer and found what had happened. When the tests were conducted they found marijuana cigarettes and traces of cocaine on the kitchen table. Now if you had this planned, wouldn't you think about cleaning all of this up before you turned yourself in? Then again, how could you kill two brothers, one getting shot in the back of the head and the other getting shot above the left eye without it being somewhat intentional Ken said he sat out in the Means parents drive way for an hour contemplating telling them he was sorry for what he had done. I just have to accept the fact that the only four people who really know what happened are dead. Whether it had been a botched drug deal or an accident.
Finally wised up

Sycamore, GA

#54 May 7, 2009
No way an accident..Ive watched enuf csi to know that is impossible..Of course drugs were involved they were all into using and dealing. I knew them all and they were all likable people just got caught up in the adair co. syndrome and carried it waaay to far and then sh** got outta control on all of them. A hell of a lot of lives ruined because of greed and drugs. Throw some alcohol in there too and look at the results. I used to party in that scene but realized there wer LOTS of lives getting screwed or ended because of the drugs and alcohol. We can all name many friends..destroyed because of them..maybe that should be a topic for topix..WHO DO YOU KNOW lost to the ADAIR CO. SYNDROME?
Squirelly Girly

Sycamore, GA

#55 May 7, 2009
Hey God Fearing--Perhaps the Godfearing Means also believe An Eye for an Eye and a Tooth for a Tooth and Perhaps a Son for a Son or a Brother for a Brother>>>????? Could be you know. Anyway just my thots...Could have been anyone

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#56 May 7, 2009
I've always wondered how Ken got the drop on them. I'm guessing they didn't have any idea it was coming. One rumor in Stilwell after it happened was that the Means boys were supposed to be there to kill Ken. I've never killed anybody but I have thought about what one might think if they made that decision under the circumstances. It doesn't make sense that they would have gotten doped up with him if their intent was to kill him. Who knows though, agreed on the Adair Co. Syndrome.

Since: May 09

Siloam Springs, AR

#57 May 7, 2009
How did Dennis Morrison die. I could never find that out? Obviously he was heavy in the drug world but he was hardly ever mentioned about that in 1985. Do you guys think Garrett told him to be quiet and lie? It's sad that even best friends could do that to each other

Since: May 09

Siloam Springs, AR

#58 May 7, 2009
That would make alot of sense though about Ken getting the drop on them. I mean think about it. Why would he kill his best friend and his brother? Ken testified that Tommy was mad cause he thought Ken had one of his weed crops destroyed. It was worth 500,000. Crazy stuff guys.

“Better days”

Since: Jan 09

Poteau, OK

#59 May 7, 2009
It sounds plausible to me that Ken thought they were there to kill him when they really were not and Ken was so doped up and paranoid that he pulled the trigger. The million dollar question is whether it was premeditated on Ken's part, did he know before he got high that he was going to kill them.

Don't know much about Morrison other than what I've read out here about him. Somebody posted some stuff in another thread about him. I think they said he was there during Ken's murder and another suicide (and by suicide I really mean murder) in Stilwell.
Shariartion

United States

#60 May 8, 2009
When and how did Dennis Morrison die? I thought he was living on the old garrette place with a Starr.
The Ghost

United States

#61 May 8, 2009
Left Hooverville wrote:
I've always wondered how Ken got the drop on them. I'm guessing they didn't have any idea it was coming. One rumor in Stilwell after it happened was that the Means boys were supposed to be there to kill Ken. I've never killed anybody but I have thought about what one might think if they made that decision under the circumstances. It doesn't make sense that they would have gotten doped up with him if their intent was to kill him. Who knows though, agreed on the Adair Co. Syndrome.
this is what i've always understood too that the Means boys were supposed to be there to kill Ken.

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