County hopes to mediate Stewartstown ...

County hopes to mediate Stewartstown Railroad problem

There are 38 comments on the InYork story from Jan 5, 2010, titled County hopes to mediate Stewartstown Railroad problem. In it, InYork reports that:

With 24 days left for the Stewartstown Railroad Company to pay a significant debt or potentially lose its stations and engine house in a sheriff's sale, the York County Commissioners are looking for ways to help.

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Choo Choo Boo Boo

Westminster, MD

#1 Jan 6, 2010
Ok people.. get this done, work it out.. its a great thing for the community. Charge more to run the train and we'll pay it... offer great things like you did in the past (Easter bunny train) you can do a Christmas Train... you can offer programs for local Cub Scouts and Girl Scouts etc.. endless options. I hope all sides see that this is a great benefit to us all and remains an important part of our local history.
David

Somerset, NJ

#2 Jan 6, 2010
Keep this train as part of York County history. The Choo boo comment says it well. Lots of questions: Is there any "proof" that this money was really given/loaned to the RR? Was any claimed "note" done under duress? Who is set to get such a sum, other than the mentioned society?
Hominy N Gritz

Wrightsville, PA

#3 Jan 6, 2010
Y'all are a hoot! I can see folks flocking to Stewartstown to ride the choo-choo as much as I could have seen them flocking to Highpoint to check out Cochise and Geronimo!!!

Be realistic! Unless someone with a bucket full of extra money to fund it this railroad is history unless Stevie boy takes Mitrick and Kilgore's eminent domain route. Sadly, it sounds like he might be looking that way which would be his death warrant for any chances of his being re-elected.

Sadly, Southern York County just doesn't have the drawing cards for high volumes of traffic required to fund this railroad.

I'd like for it to remain intact too but HOW, without sticking your fists into everyone in York County's pockets like the last two Commissioners did?!
rail-trail roader

Waterloo, Canada

#4 Jan 6, 2010
Now the county wants to get involved in saving the Stewartstown Railroad
wake up commissioners and call the Codorus Creek Railway, they have been
trying to get the stewartstown to sell the railroad for years and have said no
all along. From what the CCR tells me, they are ready to act. Any railroad that
Has money problems need to consider all options. Time is running out, the CCR
may just be the answer to all your problems.
get realistic

Waynesboro, PA

#5 Jan 6, 2010
How many "historic" things have we given up because times change or maintaining things get too expensive? Get realistic. Trying to save this railroad is a significant waste of money. Let the railtrail have the right-of-way and sell the assets, including the station (which, last time I passed it, looked like it was in terrible shape). Move forward. Now, if a private enterprise wants to spend their personal capital on this railroad, then let 'em. But, except for the railtrail, no tax dollars should be spent for this railroad. "Historic" or "Hysteric"? How about "reality"...
Bro1856

Cockeysville, MD

#6 Jan 6, 2010
All I know is that I will NEVER go back to Stewartstown for any reason. The Gestapo-like tactics of their "police" (AKA Extortionist goon squard) and the joke of a traffic court judge has made me realize that Stewartstown should never receive anymore of my hard earned $$$. From blatently falsifying speeding ticket data to refusing the recognize the rule of law and stating in court that "we give the benefit of the doubt to the officer", Stewartstown is a JOKE.
Not Sure

Culpeper, VA

#7 Jan 6, 2010
Bro1856 wrote:
All I know is that I will NEVER go back to Stewartstown for any reason. The Gestapo-like tactics of their "police" (AKA Extortionist goon squard) and the joke of a traffic court judge has made me realize that Stewartstown should never receive anymore of my hard earned $$$. From blatently falsifying speeding ticket data to refusing the recognize the rule of law and stating in court that "we give the benefit of the doubt to the officer", Stewartstown is a JOKE.
Sounds like somebody got butt hurt because they got a ticket and lost the intense battle in court. Take your medicine and admit your wrongs. Oh, that is right, you were not wrong. The po-po has made you their number one target. Good luck with that.
zman

United States

#8 Jan 6, 2010
get realistic wrote:
How many "historic" things have we given up because times change or maintaining things get too expensive? Get realistic. Trying to save this railroad is a significant waste of money. Let the railtrail have the right-of-way and sell the assets, including the station (which, last time I passed it, looked like it was in terrible shape). Move forward. Now, if a private enterprise wants to spend their personal capital on this railroad, then let 'em. But, except for the railtrail, no tax dollars should be spent for this railroad. "Historic" or "Hysteric"? How about "reality"...
Why should tax dollars be wasted on a rail-trail?
Agree

United States

#9 Jan 6, 2010
No tax payer money should be used. The Railroad has been shut down for a decade. Go to Lancaster if you want to ride an old train. All of the road crossings are in terrible shape. Tear the tracks out now and get it overwith.
disgusted

Delta, PA

#10 Jan 6, 2010
I rarely ever read topix because of the off-the-wall comments. One should learn the facts. No tax money is requested, unless you want to donate. The rail-trail will cause WWIII. If you have every been on the train, you know how close it comes to houses on the route--sometimes between the house and garage. People wandering around in my back yard--no way!!

The location is excellent--only a short distance off the interstate. Strasburg is certainly not on the beaten path!

Typical answers from someone who has no idea what happened or why.

The Codorus Creek RR idea is a joke--there is no industry in Stewartstown, and unless they intend to run excursions, I am not sure why they would bother. They are not even in operation and probably cannot afford to purchase this RR.

I do not intend to look at this page again--I wonder why the newspaper even connects to it?
Choo Choo Boo Boo

Westminster, MD

#11 Jan 6, 2010
One aspect of this is its simply a nice family thing...and you who say dont fund it with my tax dollars...well guess what? I fund things I dont want to help you or your causes out all the time, and certainly things like Section 8 which benefit NO tax payer or community is something we are hit with often. Southern York county must endure government funded studies that we pay for that have NO benefit or purpose yet we fund that. So dont be stupid, this is a nice thing that could bring people around instead of giving the axe to one more thing locally.
Rail Trail

United States

#12 Jan 6, 2010
The Rail trail is a great Idea. Thousands of people use the other york county trails. Who cares if houses are close to the tracks. Bikes make less noise than trains and don't polute.
Mr C

Simpsonville, MD

#13 Jan 6, 2010
Rail Trail wrote:
The Rail trail is a great Idea. Thousands of people use the other york county trails. Who cares if houses are close to the tracks. Bikes make less noise than trains and don't polute.
Would you want a rail trail within 15-20 feet of YOUR house? Think about it--total strangers that close to your home while you are at work or away shopping, while your youngsters play in their yard, etc., etc. Think about it!!!!
Mr C

Simpsonville, MD

#14 Jan 6, 2010
rail-trail roader wrote:
Now the county wants to get involved in saving the Stewartstown Railroad
wake up commissioners and call the Codorus Creek Railway, they have been
trying to get the stewartstown to sell the railroad for years and have said no
all along. From what the CCR tells me, they are ready to act. Any railroad that
Has money problems need to consider all options. Time is running out, the CCR
may just be the answer to all your problems.
I just looked at the CCR website. It hasn't been updated in more than a year! And you think they have the financial resources to operate a railroad?
Jo Jo

AOL

#15 Jan 6, 2010
Make it the first stop on LIGHT RAIL from YORK COUNTY TO BEL AIR and HUNT VALLEY. ASK The HARFORD COUNTY BUSINESS ASSOCIATION to help to fund it and think of the money rolling in.
Jo Jo

AOL

#16 Jan 6, 2010
make it the first stop on Light Rail between York County and Bel Air or Hunt Valley. Have Harford County to help to fund it. Ask for a grant from Obama and wait for the money to roll in.
zman

Lancaster, PA

#17 Jan 7, 2010
Rail Trail wrote:
The Rail trail is a great Idea. Thousands of people use the other york county trails. Who cares if houses are close to the tracks. Bikes make less noise than trains and don't polute.
I just don't think tax monies should be wasted so a few yuppies can take a their $5000+ bike for a ride. Let the users pay for it.

And there would probably be more pollution from all the people driving to the bike trail then an occasional train.
Bro1856

Cockeysville, MD

#18 Jan 7, 2010
Not Sure wrote:
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Sounds like somebody got butt hurt because they got a ticket and lost the intense battle in court. Take your medicine and admit your wrongs. Oh, that is right, you were not wrong. The po-po has made you their number one target. Good luck with that.
1) Ticket listed area that was "observed" in incorrectly.
2) So called lines for measuring the time driven between them and calculate speed were not visible from where the pig said he was (provided pictures to judge)
3) The benefit of the doubt does not go to the cop- it goes to the defendent. The so-called judge refuses to accept the axiom that you are inncocent until guilty. His comments indicate the reverse is true.
4) Cop gave two different accounts of the speed I was supposedly going.

I look at things this way. I went to court and lost. Fine. It happens. But after speaking with a fair number of people, it seems that speed traps and lying police is what Stewartstown is known for. Ever wonder why so many places have closed over the years and downtown S-town is mostly vacant? It's partially because the cops have chased people out of town and a lot of potential customers take their business elsewhere.
Mayor McCheese

York, PA

#19 Jan 7, 2010
The Railroad borrowed this money with the knowledge that they would have to PAY IT BACK. They have not and apparently never planned on repaying the funds. Their only plan is to sponge money from Peter to pay Paul.
No Plan=Liquidation
Down the Drain

York, PA

#20 Jan 7, 2010
York County Commissioners: Purchase railroad immediately and extend tracks to the "Geronimo Overlook" on the Susquehanny that most taxpayers didn't want. York County prohibits the use of OUTHOUSES, the younger generation will not even know what they are; now they will not know what railroads are/were in a generation or two. Unless they travels to Japan/Europe, who have their stuff together on railroads. You all will have to answer to "OWL BORE" when that smokey train puffs up and down the tracks.

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