Opposed to same-sex marriage, company ends wedding business

Dec 25, 2012 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: www.baltimoresun.com

An Annapolis company whose old-fashioned trolleys are iconic in the city's wedding scene has abandoned the nuptial industry rather than serve same-sex couples.

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<quoted text>Toss this one at him once and a while.
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I can't use it because it's from Saul and hi ilk.

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jAMES was the rightful leader. Too bad Saul killed him.

12. The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are going to leave us. Who will be our leader?"

Jesus said to them, "No matter where you are you are to go to James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."

Here use this one.

22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

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Very familiar with the position our founder held, but the accounts are as unacceptable to our opposition as Saul's are to us, though for radically different reasons.

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I can't use it because it's from Saul and hi ilk.
I understand. My point in using it is it comes from the same source they use.

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<quoted text>I understand. My point in using it is it comes from the same source they use.
True, but it also leaves you open to the other stuff that he and his group passed off as Yeshua's teachings. It's why one needs to call Saulism Saulism wherever it occurs.

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So bacteria isn't alive? Cells aren't alive? That counters all biological science, you do realize that.
Why how splendid even you libs are turning on each other .

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Milk isn't "alive". Neither are unfertilized eggs.
So bacteria isn't alive? Cells aren't alive? That counters all biological science, you do realize that.
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Why how splendid even you libs are turning on each other .
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Milk isn't "alive". Neither are unfertilized eggs.
So bacteria isn't alive? Cells aren't alive? That counters all biological science, you do realize that.
Crawl back into your hole and stay there.

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Why how splendid even you libs are turning on each other .
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Milk isn't "alive". Neither are unfertilized eggs.
So bacteria isn't alive? Cells aren't alive? That counters all biological science, you do realize that.
Pointing out when one misspeaks is not "turning on another," it's called correcting them. Something you religious nuts hate.

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Pointing out when one misspeaks is not "turning on another," it's called correcting them. Something you religious nuts hate.
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The article says: "The owner of Discover Annapolis Tours said he decided to walk away from $50,000 in annual revenue instead of compromising his Christian convictions".

Well, if he is REALLY doing this out of his "Christian convictions", then would he also refuse service to Jewish people or Muslim people, because they don't believe that Jesus Of Nazareth is The Messiah ?

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The article says: "The owner of Discover Annapolis Tours said he decided to walk away from $50,000 in annual revenue instead of compromising his Christian convictions".
Well, if he is REALLY doing this out of his "Christian convictions", then would he also refuse service to Jewish people or Muslim people, because they don't believe that Jesus Of Nazareth is The Messiah ?
But he's smart enough to know that if he did that he'd be practicing religious discrimination.

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The article says: "The owner of Discover Annapolis Tours said he decided to walk away from $50,000 in annual revenue instead of compromising his Christian convictions".
Well, if he is REALLY doing this out of his "Christian convictions", then would he also refuse service to Jewish people or Muslim people, because they don't believe that Jesus Of Nazareth is The Messiah ?
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<quoted text>But he's smart enough to know that if he did that he'd be practicing religious discrimination.
So refusing to serve someone for saying: "Jesus of Nazareth is NOT The Messiah" is "religious discrimination", but refusing to serve someone because they may not be adhering to a particular religious passage, which is disputed by many theologians is NOT "religious discrimination" ?!

That's nonsensical !

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What service exactly is the proprietor refusing? He has quit providing a service because of his beliefs and not wanting to cater to homosexuals. So please explain how he is refusing/denying service to anyone.
Not providing a service, and refusing service are two distinctly different.
Are you implying he should continue to provide the service even though it is counter to his belief?
Right or wrong, accept or disapprove, it is his belief. We may not all agree with his decision, however he has committed no illegal act. There is nothing remotely wrong with how he decides to run his business as long it is in accordance with the law.
I stand by what I said.

If he didn't provide the service to Hindu people, because they don't believe in ANY parts of the bible, isn't that teh same thing ?

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He is not providing the service as a whole. He is not denying service to anyone. Again you are confusing apple and oranges.
Is it your claim that he should continue to provide the service?
What I'm saying is that by singling out gay and lesbian people for non-service, he IS discriminationg based on religion because he is basing his decision on his interpretation of a religious text.

And btw, those religious texts allegedly referring to gay men (the bible does not mention lesbians), are disputed by many theologians and there is NO consensus on what they mean exactly. And before you say that is true about ALL religious texts, not it isn't. Because there IS consensus among ALL Christians that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah because taht is the distinguishing characteristic that DEFINES THEM AS CHRISTIANS.

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The article says: "The owner of Discover Annapolis Tours said he decided to walk away from $50,000 in annual revenue instead of compromising his Christian convictions".
Well, if he is REALLY doing this out of his "Christian convictions", then would he also refuse service to Jewish people or Muslim people, because they don't believe that Jesus Of Nazareth is The Messiah ?
Not a great comparison, really. Someone that doesn't believe in the Jesus he believes in isn't a threat to his belief. Someone that doesn't believe what he believes in that is trying to change a traditional belief he has, now that he perceives as a threat to what he believes.

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I stand by what I said.
If he didn't provide the service to Hindu people, because they don't believe in ANY parts of the bible, isn't that teh same thing ?
I'll answer again. No. Some one that doesn't believe as he does and isn't trying to change something he believes in isn't a threat. Hindu, Muslim, Buddhists aren't out trying to take away from or add to Christian beliefs. Same sex marriage and homosexual advocates are and have been adding to his beliefs by the law and that is a threat to his personal beliefs.
He feels he has dealt with the issue as business owner by shutting down his business.

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I'll answer again. No. Some one that doesn't believe as he does and isn't trying to change something he believes in isn't a threat. Hindu, Muslim, Buddhists aren't out trying to take away from or add to Christian beliefs. Same sex marriage and homosexual advocates are and have been adding to his beliefs by the law and that is a threat to his personal beliefs.
He feels he has dealt with the issue as business owner by shutting down his business.
tell me, how are marriage equality/homosexual advocates adding to his beliefs or threatening his religious beliefs. there are many gays who worship right beside him in church.

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tell me, how are marriage equality/homosexual advocates adding to his beliefs or threatening his religious beliefs. there are many gays who worship right beside him in church.
Come on, you this answer.
If people followed traditional Christian beliefs concerning just their view/reasoning concerning homosexuality/marriage, there would be no rights for homosexuals. There would be no rights for same sex relationships/marriages. With no rights for homosexuals/same sex marriages, Christians would be where once they were comfortable being at. Having prejudices against homosexuality and same sex marriages and being reinforced for those prejudices because the law backed those prejudices.
But as these 'traditionalist' Christians see they are on a ship sinking fast, as they see their 'traditional' laws being over turned and even segments of Christianity opening their doors to homosexual/same sex actions, all they can do now is refuse to agree and or have part with the changes taking place.
And that is what this business owner did. Instead of compromising his beliefs, he quit his business so they wouldn't be compromised.

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thank you. that was a pretty good explanation of what you were saying. i had thought that you were saying that, somehow, homosexuality really does compromise his beliefs, rather than his own ignorance of what it truly means to be a christian.
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Come on, you this answer.
If people followed traditional Christian beliefs concerning just their view/reasoning concerning homosexuality/marriage, there would be no rights for homosexuals. There would be no rights for same sex relationships/marriages. With no rights for homosexuals/same sex marriages, Christians would be where once they were comfortable being at. Having prejudices against homosexuality and same sex marriages and being reinforced for those prejudices because the law backed those prejudices.
But as these 'traditionalist' Christians see they are on a ship sinking fast, as they see their 'traditional' laws being over turned and even segments of Christianity opening their doors to homosexual/same sex actions, all they can do now is refuse to agree and or have part with the changes taking place.
And that is what this business owner did. Instead of compromising his beliefs, he quit his business so they wouldn't be compromised.

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