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Hundreds pray for end to abortion at Portage County Walk for Life rally

There are 10 comments on the WisInfo story from Jan 31, 2011, titled Hundreds pray for end to abortion at Portage County Walk for Life rally. In it, WisInfo reports that:

Adam Hunley has paid close attention to Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that legalized abortion, his entire life.

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“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#1 Jan 31, 2011
I guess praying for the children that are here would make way to much sense...
Dan

Omaha, NE

#2 Jan 31, 2011
kathwynn wrote:
I guess praying for the children that are here would make way to much sense...
I didn't see where that they don't, kathwynn.

Can you cite the article where it says that the end of abortion is all they pray for?

Why do articles about these rallies provoke all the negative responses? They are simply exercising freedoms you'd insist upon for yourself.

“BJDs: Crack would be cheaper”

Since: Jul 08

Pro-choice and Proud

#3 Jan 31, 2011
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't see where that they don't, kathwynn.
Can you cite the article where it says that the end of abortion is all they pray for?
Why do articles about these rallies provoke all the negative responses? They are simply exercising freedoms you'd insist upon for yourself.
Because - and I'm leaving the issue of religious beliefs/prayer out of this - praying/hoping for an end to abortion is pointless. It's a waste of time. Abortion has been around for about as long as human civilization. It will always be an option for women. And at least in my experiences, many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that fact.

Which brings me to the second reason articles about rallies/gatherings/protests/et c. garner the reaction they do - because, since many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that abortions WILL occur regardless of the law on the subject, they are avid advocates of restricting and/or removing women's access to safe, legal abortions. It's difficult to look positively on a gathering of people when you know that statistically the majority of them would like to see your rights restricted and/or removed.

And, of course,(and now I WILL address the issue of religion/prayer) when you have a gathering of people PRAYING for something, that indicates that at least the majority of that gathering has a shared religious affiliation. Depending on the specifics of that affiliation - or even without it - any portion of that group may '[wish] to see an end to abortion' but ALSO wishes to restrict and/or remove access to the ability to prevent unexpected and/or unwanted pregnancies.

Personally, I'm ambivalent about a gathering whose members at BEST are simply pointlessly hoping for something that is never going to happen. I see nothing positive about a gathering whose members probably wish to see some of my rights remove, may want to remove my ability to prevent the thing they wish to remove my rights regarding, and at WORST wish solely to see those rights and abilities removed because I deserve whatever steps I have to take without those rights simply for even considering a choice they disapprove of.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#4 Jan 31, 2011
z3ncat wrote:
<quoted text>Because - and I'm leaving the issue of religious beliefs/prayer out of this - praying/hoping for an end to abortion is pointless. It's a waste of time. Abortion has been around for about as long as human civilization. It will always be an option for women. And at least in my experiences, many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that fact.
Which brings me to the second reason articles about rallies/gatherings/protests/et c. garner the reaction they do - because, since many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that abortions WILL occur regardless of the law on the subject, they are avid advocates of restricting and/or removing women's access to safe, legal abortions. It's difficult to look positively on a gathering of people when you know that statistically the majority of them would like to see your rights restricted and/or removed.
And, of course,(and now I WILL address the issue of religion/prayer) when you have a gathering of people PRAYING for something, that indicates that at least the majority of that gathering has a shared religious affiliation. Depending on the specifics of that affiliation - or even without it - any portion of that group may '[wish] to see an end to abortion' but ALSO wishes to restrict and/or remove access to the ability to prevent unexpected and/or unwanted pregnancies.
Personally, I'm ambivalent about a gathering whose members at BEST are simply pointlessly hoping for something that is never going to happen. I see nothing positive about a gathering whose members probably wish to see some of my rights remove, may want to remove my ability to prevent the thing they wish to remove my rights regarding, and at WORST wish solely to see those rights and abilities removed because I deserve whatever steps I have to take without those rights simply for even considering a choice they disapprove of.
It's their time they're wasting.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#5 Jan 31, 2011
z3ncat wrote:
<quoted text>Because - and I'm leaving the issue of religious beliefs/prayer out of this - praying/hoping for an end to abortion is pointless. It's a waste of time. Abortion has been around for about as long as human civilization. It will always be an option for women. And at least in my experiences, many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that fact.
Which brings me to the second reason articles about rallies/gatherings/protests/et c. garner the reaction they do - because, since many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that abortions WILL occur regardless of the law on the subject, they are avid advocates of restricting and/or removing women's access to safe, legal abortions. It's difficult to look positively on a gathering of people when you know that statistically the majority of them would like to see your rights restricted and/or removed.
And, of course,(and now I WILL address the issue of religion/prayer) when you have a gathering of people PRAYING for something, that indicates that at least the majority of that gathering has a shared religious affiliation. Depending on the specifics of that affiliation - or even without it - any portion of that group may '[wish] to see an end to abortion' but ALSO wishes to restrict and/or remove access to the ability to prevent unexpected and/or unwanted pregnancies.
Personally, I'm ambivalent about a gathering whose members at BEST are simply pointlessly hoping for something that is never going to happen. I see nothing positive about a gathering whose members probably wish to see some of my rights remove, may want to remove my ability to prevent the thing they wish to remove my rights regarding, and at WORST wish solely to see those rights and abilities removed because I deserve whatever steps I have to take without those rights simply for even considering a choice they disapprove of.
I men, if they're "wasting their time", isn't you worrying about it and/or railing about it even a bigger waste of time?

“BJDs: Crack would be cheaper”

Since: Jul 08

Pro-choice and Proud

#6 Jan 31, 2011
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
It's their time they're wasting.
Well, sure. And so long as every person wasting their time is ONLY hoping to see something that will never happen, happen.

“BJDs: Crack would be cheaper”

Since: Jul 08

Pro-choice and Proud

#7 Jan 31, 2011
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I men, if they're "wasting their time", isn't you worrying about it and/or railing about it even a bigger waste of time?
Again, yes, so long as EVERY person is ONLY hoping for the impossible - and like I said, I'm ambivalent on the matter of the quixotic uninformed. Meh to them.

It's the others that garner the negative reaction you were wondering about. The ones who aren't just hoping to see abortion magically cease to occur.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#8 Jan 31, 2011
z3ncat wrote:
<quoted text>Again, yes, so long as EVERY person is ONLY hoping for the impossible - and like I said, I'm ambivalent on the matter of the quixotic uninformed. Meh to them.
It's the others that garner the negative reaction you were wondering about. The ones who aren't just hoping to see abortion magically cease to occur.
What "ones"?

The "ones" kathwynn posits are "actually" rallying under a guise to prevent contraception? That's what I got from the post.

“BJDs: Crack would be cheaper”

Since: Jul 08

Pro-choice and Proud

#9 Jan 31, 2011
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
What "ones"?
The "ones" kathwynn posits are "actually" rallying under a guise to prevent contraception? That's what I got from the post.
As I said, depending on the specifics of the religious beliefs that drew people to this particular gathering, a portion of them WILL oppose the use of contraception and support efforts to restrict and/or remove women's access to the most effective forms.

“Proud to be a Wiccan Priest”

Since: Jul 09

Jonesboro AR

#10 Jan 31, 2011
z3ncat wrote:
<quoted text>Because - and I'm leaving the issue of religious beliefs/prayer out of this - praying/hoping for an end to abortion is pointless. It's a waste of time. Abortion has been around for about as long as human civilization. It will always be an option for women. And at least in my experiences, many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that fact.
Which brings me to the second reason articles about rallies/gatherings/protests/et c. garner the reaction they do - because, since many of those who 'wish to see an end to abortion' don't seem to realize that abortions WILL occur regardless of the law on the subject, they are avid advocates of restricting and/or removing women's access to safe, legal abortions. It's difficult to look positively on a gathering of people when you know that statistically the majority of them would like to see your rights restricted and/or removed.
And, of course,(and now I WILL address the issue of religion/prayer) when you have a gathering of people PRAYING for something, that indicates that at least the majority of that gathering has a shared religious affiliation. Depending on the specifics of that affiliation - or even without it - any portion of that group may '[wish] to see an end to abortion' but ALSO wishes to restrict and/or remove access to the ability to prevent unexpected and/or unwanted pregnancies.
Personally, I'm ambivalent about a gathering whose members at BEST are simply pointlessly hoping for something that is never going to happen. I see nothing positive about a gathering whose members probably wish to see some of my rights remove, may want to remove my ability to prevent the thing they wish to remove my rights regarding, and at WORST wish solely to see those rights and abilities removed because I deserve whatever steps I have to take without those rights simply for even considering a choice they disapprove of.
I agree with you 100%

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