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Superfly

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#459
Sep 9, 2012
 
The Last Templar wrote:
The TRUTH about Medicare is that OBAMA STOLE OUR MONEY!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Times-News recently printed a detailed and accurate editorial that explained the Medicare $716 billion savings. Unfortunately it was again stated at the Republican Convention that President Obama stole the money from Medicare and gave it to the Affordable Care Act Obamacare. This analogy found on a website called the Daily Kos (“Defeat the Medicare Lie Easily… with Groceries”) should explain what will happen to the savings.

“If my husband had been spending an average of $1,000 a month on groceries, but then started using the sale flyers and coupons to buy the same groceries for $800, how would you describe the difference? Did he ‘steal’$200 from our grocery budget? Or did he ‘save’$200?”

Keep in mind, we’re still buying and eating the same food, but the store and the food and beverage industry are getting a little bit less. They’re OK with that, though, because the sales and coupons draw new customers. In the same way, in health care terms, Medicare recipients are still getting the same coverage as before (even better coverage) but the hospitals and insurers are getting paid a little bit less. But they’re OK with that because of the huge influx of new patients entering the health care system through Obamacare.… Now you can see how (idiotic/ridiculous/devious) the Romney/Ryan Medicare lie really is.”

I then go on to explain that the $200 we saved on groceries can now be spent on food ‘extras,’ like going out to dinner several times or buying more fresh produce. That’s like President Obama using the Medicare savings to close the prescription drug donut hole and allow seniors access to free preventive care, cancer screenings, etc. through ACA.(Not a perfect comparison, of course, because seniors being able to afford medication matters way more than going out to dinner.)”

Compare this to Romney/Ryan who would use the same flyers and coupons to save the same exact $200, but instead of using the savings on food extras for our family …, they would send it to my rich uncle so he could stash it overseas.”

If you understand the deception, it gives you insight into the welfare lie also coming from Romney-Ryan. To deceive seniors about Medicare … a program that seniors need and depend upon for their good health is underhanded, deceptive and shameful.

vote obama 2012.

The truth team 2012
Superfly

De Forest, WI

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#460
Sep 9, 2012
 
Now you can see how (idiotic/ridiculous/devious) the Romney/Ryan Medicare lie really is.”
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Obama 2012 the candidate that has the middleclasses backs.

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peace out.
Superfly Jimmy Snuka

Milwaukee, WI

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#461
Sep 10, 2012
 
Love it! "Getting Romney or Ryan to say anything specific is like nailing jello to the wall". Morning Joe

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#462
Sep 26, 2012
 
Hard to conceive of the stupidity of a people who can't comprehend that stealing 716 billion dollars from the Medicare trust fund, while providing that money to the MediCAID provisions of Obamacare, is not depriving those seniors of their rightfully entitled money.

That 716 billion will now go to an entirely different demographic group comprised largely of welfare recipients who never have and likely never will contribute a penny.

Wake up Florida. In 40 days we decide the very future of our healthcare, and our country.

You can believe the spin from the liberal shills posting here, you can believe the AARP that stands to make billions from Obamacare, or you can STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES AND BE COUNTED ON ELECTION DAY!

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#463
Sep 26, 2012
 
Superfly Jimmy Snuka wrote:
Love it! "Getting Romney or Ryan to say anything specific is like nailing jello to the wall". Morning Joe
www.mittromney.com

It's all there, you muckin fope.
Dr X

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Ding -Ding -Ding - you LOOSE! We realize that the GOP is not focused on facts because they’ve actually told in so many words…...http://www.onthemedia .org/2012/aug/31/were-not-goin g-let-our-campaign-be-dictated -fact-checkers/ And the $716 Billion is juust another of Ryans many - many lies....FACT! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...
Dr X

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Sep 27, 2012
 
AbleDanger

Kenosha, WI

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Oct 13, 2012
 

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The Last Templar wrote:
The TRUTH about Medicare is that OBAMA STOLE OUR MONEY!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
VOTE FOR TOMMY THOMPSON - He's not a lesbian.

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#469
Oct 14, 2012
 
Dr X wrote:
Ding -Ding -Ding - you LOOSE! We realize that the GOP is not focused on facts because they’ve actually told in so many words…...http://www.onthemedia .org/2012/aug/31/were-not-goin g-let-our-campaign-be-dictated -fact-checkers/ And the $716 Billion is juust another of Ryans many - many lies....FACT! http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...
How does someone willingly controvert the facts in this regard? Did you actually READ what Obama did? Let me boil it down for you, fool:

Obama STOLE 716 billion dollars from the Medicare Trust Fund, and sent it over to pay for the MediCAID provisions of Obamacare, largely subsidizing the welfare state and jumpstarting the MediCAID exchange provisions to eventually push the state's into taking MediCAID back to the state level.

I happen to live in one of only 5 states in the country which currently handle MediCAID... the rest are federal. It all trickles down to the taxpayer. Know what my county, Oneida County, NY's share of the MediCAID is on average? 85%!!! NOT A TYPO. Take a trip to the MediCAID office in Utica, NY, and you will see Bosnians, Vietnamese, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, and poor white trash gaming the system LEGALLY.

Now get back to the first fact I gave you, tell me how that 716 billion that all those seniors, MYSELF INCLUDED ( I am approaching retirement age ) PAID INTO every paycheck of their lives, is better spent on MediCAID, and what are all those seniors going to rely on for their healthcare?

Welcome to the watered down world of Obamacare, repleat with a myriad of lies and obfuscations. Better get smart, seniors, because the fox is ALREADY IN the henhouse.
LiveFreeOrDie

Yakima, WA

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#470
Oct 14, 2012
 
Medicaid, Medicare and social security is goint to topple this nation faster than Titanic sank once the shite hits the fan and the liabilites are not solvent.

Get rid of medicaid& medicare. Privatize SS over time. Let those who are a certain age keep it if they want to and offer fair exit offers for those who want to leave it.

THEN, find the printing press of the feds and throw it into the Marijana trench outside of Japan.

And suddenly the founding fathers went into a deep and comfortable slumber again....
Manfred Man

Milwaukee, WI

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#471
Oct 15, 2012
 
LiveFreeOrDie wrote:
Medicaid, Medicare and social security is goint to topple this nation faster than Titanic sank once the shite hits the fan and the liabilites are not solvent.
Get rid of medicaid& medicare. Privatize SS over time. Let those who are a certain age keep it if they want to and offer fair exit offers for those who want to leave it.
THEN, find the printing press of the feds and throw it into the Marijana trench outside of Japan.
And suddenly the founding fathers went into a deep and comfortable slumber again....
Okay Burn-Out, it's the "Mariana Trench" not the "Marijana Trench", but my guess is you've spent a lot of time in the Marijuana Trench!

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#472
Oct 16, 2012
 
Ohio Representative Bill Johnson speaks to Congress about Obama's failed energy policies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#474
Oct 21, 2012
 
“This is not complicated for me,” President Clinton said. “If somebody saved my economy, I’d be for him.”
kevlar

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#475
Oct 21, 2012
 
OregonSUX wrote:
“This is not complicated for me,” President Clinton said.“If somebody saved my economy, I’d be for him.”
Except he hasn't.

Didn't Obama claim that low gas prices were due to the bad economy?

They have dropped 30 cents in the last month.....

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kevlar wrote:
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Except he hasn't.
Didn't Obama claim that low gas prices were due to the bad economy?
They have dropped 30 cents in the last month.....
God are you stupid.

Gas prices reflect the economy. They also reflect refinery fires. They also reflect geopolitical unrest. They also reflect seasonality.

They reflect many things.

Do you not understand this you lower class trailer trash?

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Smutt Romney says that Ann's opinions are irrelevant to his campaign and that people get sick of her if they see her too often.

Why hasn't Tagg Romney been arrested for his threats against Obama?

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Obama has driven this country right off a cliff. More Americans in poverty than any time in history. Average family salary down $4000.00. 17 million new people on food stamps. Welfare up from 23% to now over 35%. 16 trillion in debt, and spending billions each day, and BORROWING 40 cents of every dollar spent from the Chi-coms to pay our increasing debt.

If that makes sense to you, then please, get your head examined.

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The Last Templar wrote:
Obama has driven this country right off a cliff. More Americans in poverty than any time in history. Average family salary down $4000.00. 17 million new people on food stamps. Welfare up from 23% to now over 35%. 16 trillion in debt, and spending billions each day, and BORROWING 40 cents of every dollar spent from the Chi-coms to pay our increasing debt.
If that makes sense to you, then please, get your head examined.
LIAR.

Bush: losing 850,000 jobs A MONTH
Bush: shrinking the economy by 9% a year

Obama: making jobs for 30 months
Obama: ended Bush's Recession in 6 months

Cause of the modern debt: Ronnie Alzheimer Reagan

Cause of the current deficit:

1. Bush's tax cuts for the rich on the nation's credit card.

2. Bush's two wars on the nation's credit card.

3. Bush the Businessman's Great Recession on the nation's credit card.

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#482
Oct 24, 2012
 
I NEVER lie... and neither does Clint Eastwood. Here, his new video ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Ted

Cedarburg, WI

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#483
Oct 24, 2012
 
The Last Templar wrote:
I NEVER lie... and neither does Clint Eastwood. Here, his new video ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The youtube king is back!........I think you're festering again.

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