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White House tries to counter House hearing on Muslims

There are 51 comments on the DispatchPolitics story from Mar 7, 2011, titled White House tries to counter House hearing on Muslims. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., has not released a list of the witnesses he plans to call at the hearing.

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Ron Ellis

Surfside, CA

#23 Mar 7, 2011
This is a new low even for Obama!

maddog2008

Since: Sep 08

United States

#24 Mar 7, 2011
Hooked on Fonics wrote:
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Really? You are sad.
I asked a question (see the question mark)and being a Obama loving liberal loon you have to start with the insults.You are the sad one.Why are the liberals so afraid to answer a simple question about Obama?Could it be that he sealed all of his records and the loons can't answer any?
A Witch Hunt

Columbus, OH

#25 Mar 7, 2011
Protesters call Rep. Pete King's upcoming hearings on Muslim radicalization a witch hunt

Proclaiming "Today I am a Muslim too," about 1,000 protesters gathered Sunday in Times Square to decry Rep. Pete King's upcoming hearings into homegrown radical Islam.

Christians, Jews and Muslims branded the hearings a witch hunt, waved signs and chanted, "Shame, shame Pete King!"

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/03/0...
King is Not Truthful

Columbus, OH

#26 Mar 7, 2011
In advance of the hearing, King is making the media rounds, and he made a telling comment to the New York Daily News over the weekend:

Muslims, he said, have a “misguided” belief that they were victimized by a backlash of hatred after the Sept. 11 attacks. The congressman argues the hate they feel is imagined, and Muslims need to put aside any fears they have towards official America and police.

"I think a lot of that is a self-imposed fear they have, and that seemed to put them underground, put then in a sense of non-cooperation," King said. "I'm hoping that the hearing will bring this out, and encourage people in the Muslim community to come forward and realize that they should cooperate."

Read more: http://www.salon.com/news/islam/...
__________

The Muslim bashers and haters who routinely post hate filled comments on Topix are strong witness bearers that Peter King is Not Truthful when he asserts there has been no backlash of hatred against Muslims after the Sept. 11 attacks and that the hate they feel is imagined ... etc.

In a Court of Law these bashers and haters could be called as rebuttal witnesses to impeach his character and truthfulness.
Zane Salazar

Surfside, CA

#27 Mar 7, 2011
King is Not Truthful wrote:
In advance of the hearing, King is making the media rounds, and he made a telling comment to the New York Daily News over the weekend:
Muslims, he said, have a “misguided” belief that they were victimized by a backlash of hatred after the Sept. 11 attacks. The congressman argues the hate they feel is imagined, and Muslims need to put aside any fears they have towards official America and police.
"I think a lot of that is a self-imposed fear they have, and that seemed to put them underground, put then in a sense of non-cooperation," King said. "I'm hoping that the hearing will bring this out, and encourage people in the Muslim community to come forward and realize that they should cooperate."
Read more: http://www.salon.com/news/islam/...
__________
The Muslim bashers and haters who routinely post hate filled comments on Topix are strong witness bearers that Peter King is Not Truthful when he asserts there has been no backlash of hatred against Muslims after the Sept. 11 attacks and that the hate they feel is imagined ... etc.
In a Court of Law these bashers and haters could be called as rebuttal witnesses to impeach his character and truthfulness.
Americans don't even have the courage, character, and basic integrity to stop the illegal alien colonization...we certainly won't man up and protect our families and our Nation from the Islamic Hordes as long as we ONLY have Obama in the White House.
Hooked on Fonics

Reynoldsburg, OH

#28 Mar 7, 2011
maddog2008 wrote:
<quoted text>I asked a question (see the question mark)and being a Obama loving liberal loon you have to start with the insults.You are the sad one.Why are the liberals so afraid to answer a simple question about Obama?Could it be that he sealed all of his records and the loons can't answer any?
Ah, your argument is so much more cogent now. Thanks skippy. I voted for Repubs last election genius. I'm just not a moron.
cheesehead

Columbus, OH

#29 Mar 7, 2011
typical Barry
TPG55

Columbus, OH

#30 Mar 8, 2011
I would not class Islam as a religion. It DOES NOT promote the same values as the other religions that can co-exist together. If you are not Muslim, you are an infidel to be exterminated period. That alone should class this as a cult, NOT A RELIGION!

Since: Jun 09

Nashport, OH

#31 Mar 8, 2011
Responsibility wrote:
<quoted text>
Americans are Muslims too, my friend, and Muslims are Americans.
Marginalising a religion is a dangerous thing and should be done with caution and care, dear America.
I find it very easy to cut through flowery prose to the nut of the problem; Muslims are the ones marginalizing their religion. Islam followers practice honor killings, terror, mutilation of women, and a sever intolerance to all those who do not practice Islam.
Zane Salazar

Huntington Beach, CA

#32 Mar 8, 2011
No one expects The Obama to have any genuine concern for the safety or well being of American citizen families. He is one of those "progressives".
Toni

Olathe, KS

#33 Mar 8, 2011
Reader wrote:
Even though this article is not even listed on the front page of the online Dispatch, the nattering nabobs of negativism with regard to Islam have found it and are sounding forth. And if it were on the front page, it would have gone viral by now with hate speech--meaning the expression of hatred against and suspicion of Muslims.
And, of course, the obligatory accusation that our President is "one of them."
These are not signs of health in a country that believes, as a core value, in the right of Americans to worship freely.
The level of dishonesty expressed here is deeply disturbing--particularly as it is likely being expressed by people who have accepted lies as truth. The belief that CAIR is a hate group that supports organizations is an example. It is hard to track down original sources to this belief, as it has been stated and restated so often that it has become truth in the eyes of many. But, if one is suffficiently persistent in demanding evidence, one eventually gets down to CAIRs having been named as an "unindicted co-conspirator" (a virtually meaningless accusation, requiring absolutely no proof, nor offering any opportunity for defense) in the terror-finance trial against the Holy Land Foundation and its former officials. In fact, a long list of organizations was so named. The connections rely on a web of who knew whom tracing back to the Muslim Brotherhood.
What is not often acknowledged is the level of government cooperation from organizations like CAIR and others in training in the post 9/11 era and in both prevention and identification of factors that contribute to the radicalization of young people. Similarly absent is any recognition of formal statements by many Muslim groups actively opposed to terrorism.
There are in American far too many who not only seriously accept all Muslims as being enemies of the state, but this has begun to be a factor influencing public policy. When legislatures are wasting their time in declaring Sharia law to be illegal (completely overlooking not only that no one is trying to make Sharia legal, but also that existing laws already protect us from capricious enforcement of laws that run counter to the existing system of laws), it is time for someone to stand up and start naming the wackos who are pushing this tripe, and acknowledging that they are not only wackos, but profoundly unAmerican wackos.
Your words reflect the mantra of this inept Administration who willingly turns its head to the reality of Sharia Law and those here in America who are working diligently to enact it.
How would Sharia slowly immerse into society and take control? They rely on politically correct zealots such as you. And slowing infiltrating all forms of government, from the bottom to the top to achieve their goal of submission to Islam. Success is guaranteed in numbers and station within the government. We are not talking about 10 years Progressive, possibly 50 years for the objectives they have outlined in the manifesto, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for North America."
Tell me how much does Soros's groups pay you to surf the Net to attempt to dissuade those who see the threat clearly?
You are grossly over-paid! Truth and convictions intimidates you Progressive Liberals on so many levels.
Toni

Olathe, KS

#34 Mar 8, 2011
powell sinclair wrote:
<quoted text>
I find it very easy to cut through flowery prose to the nut of the problem; Muslims are the ones marginalizing their religion. Islam followers practice honor killings, terror, mutilation of women, and a sever intolerance to all those who do not practice Islam.
They also take little girls as brides. Paedophiles in my book. But what do you expect, Mohammad took a 6 year old girl as bride, and proceeded to raped her. And this man is revered by millions of Muslims? Sounds like there are a lot of Muslims that must admire and agree to this practice if he is so venerated. If I were Muslim I would be ashamed. I for one will never submit to Islam, Dar-al-Islam, House of Islam. And will join those who fight to prevent the insinuation of Shariah into America's academics, Banking nd Finance, government, intelligence, law enforcement and military institutions, and society. As Sharia Law's objective is to do just that.
Toni

Olathe, KS

#35 Mar 8, 2011
King is Not Truthful wrote:
In advance of the hearing, King is making the media rounds, and he made a telling comment to the New York Daily News over the weekend:
Muslims, he said, have a “misguided” belief that they were victimized by a backlash of hatred after the Sept. 11 attacks. The congressman argues the hate they feel is imagined, and Muslims need to put aside any fears they have towards official America and police.
"I think a lot of that is a self-imposed fear they have, and that seemed to put them underground, put then in a sense of non-cooperation," King said. "I'm hoping that the hearing will bring this out, and encourage people in the Muslim community to come forward and realize that they should cooperate."
Read more: http://www.salon.com/news/islam/...
__________
The Muslim bashers and haters who routinely post hate filled comments on Topix are strong witness bearers that Peter King is Not Truthful when he asserts there has been no backlash of hatred against Muslims after the Sept. 11 attacks and that the hate they feel is imagined ... etc.
In a Court of Law these bashers and haters could be called as rebuttal witnesses to impeach his character and truthfulness.
The Muslim Brotherhood's own manifesto disputes your ignorant defense of them. Yusaf al-Quaradawi leader of the Muslim Brotherhood at a convention said, "We will conquer Europe, we will conquer America. Not through the sword but through dawa."
Stealth Jihad which proceeds under the radar in western societies. Its objective is to infiltrate and subvert, specifically tailored to Liberal multi-cultural-minded non-Muslims. Done in a way in which is difficult to recognize, oppose or counter. The goal is subjugation of Daal al Harb....Shariah. Apparently on you the method is working!
Toni

Olathe, KS

#36 Mar 8, 2011
Zane Salazar wrote:
<quoted text>
Americans don't even have the courage, character, and basic integrity to stop the illegal alien colonization...we certainly won't man up and protect our families and our Nation from the Islamic Hordes as long as we ONLY have Obama in the White House.
Obama is going in 2012. It is up to us to make sure the threat of Islam to our Constitution and our way of life is eradicated from society. Go to France, Germany, England and see the affects of lax immigration of Muslims has seriously harm their countries. There are streets in those countries you cannot go down if a non-Muslim, and are governed by Sharia Law not the law of those countries. Merkel recently commented on the folly of the Muslim population Not to assimilate into society in her country. Sarkozy is feeling the error of France's immigration policy too. England's streets are filled with demonstrators disparaging, spiting on it's soldiers coming from Afghanistan by radical Muslims. These are the so call good Muslim's that teach and pray at the mosques. The one's some on Topix think are misunderstood, and unfairly treated. Progressive men and women who have fallen for the Stealth Jihad false mantra.
A wise man's heart directs him towards the right, but a foolish man's heart directs him towards the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#37 Mar 8, 2011
maddog2008 wrote:
<quoted text>I asked a question (see the question mark)and being a Obama loving liberal loon you have to start with the insults.You are the sad one.Why are the liberals so afraid to answer a simple question about Obama?Could it be that he sealed all of his records and the loons can't answer any?
No, it's just better not to engage the trolls. They don't respond to facts, documentation or logic. And they will make use of any opportunity to grab the spotlight and start singing the same old song that everyone was bored with two years ago.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#38 Mar 8, 2011
TPG55 wrote:
I would not class Islam as a religion. It DOES NOT promote the same values as the other religions that can co-exist together. If you are not Muslim, you are an infidel to be exterminated period. That alone should class this as a cult, NOT A RELIGION!
I see you have been properly propagandized. It is necessary to discount Islam as a religion in order to get around the First Amendment.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way. I am certain that there have been some Supreme Court challenges based on the First Amendment being applied to some extremist practices or beliefs (particularly in prison, or where a religious practice violated some law--such as smoking peyote). But I cannot recall there ever having been a test for whether a religion promoted a particular set of values found in other religions. Do you have a particular case in mind?

Recall that the Supreme Court even upheld the right of Fred Phelps and his family's self-defined version of Christianity to practice their right of free speech in the public square (and despite the probability of it interfering with the worship practice of families seeking to peacefully inter their dead). Basically, I don't think that the "Islam is not a religion" thing will ever fly--except in the far right echo chamber.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#39 Mar 8, 2011
King is Not Truthful wrote:
In advance of the hearing, King is making the media rounds, and he made a telling comment to the New York Daily News over the weekend:
Muslims, he said, have a “misguided” belief that they were victimized by a backlash of hatred after the Sept. 11 attacks. The congressman argues the hate they feel is imagined, and Muslims need to put aside any fears they have towards official America and police.
"I think a lot of that is a self-imposed fear they have, and that seemed to put them underground, put then in a sense of non-cooperation," King said. "I'm hoping that the hearing will bring this out, and encourage people in the Muslim community to come forward and realize that they should cooperate."
Read more: http://www.salon.com/news/islam/...
__________
The Muslim bashers and haters who routinely post hate filled comments on Topix are strong witness bearers that Peter King is Not Truthful when he asserts there has been no backlash of hatred against Muslims after the Sept. 11 attacks and that the hate they feel is imagined ... etc.
In a Court of Law these bashers and haters could be called as rebuttal witnesses to impeach his character and truthfulness.
How many vandalized mosques constitutes a "misguided belief"?
scout

Castro Valley, CA

#40 Mar 8, 2011
Obama was raised Islamic, yet he FAILS even here as he enables the Homosexual mental crime.

He's such a LOSER on so many levels!

Dang!

Obama, here's what LOSERS do: continue with the everyday bureaucratic program!

sound familiar????

I bet Michele as more backbone than he does!
Toni

Olathe, KS

#41 Mar 8, 2011
Listen to the Iman Anjem Choudary on Sharia Law and replacing our Constition and submission to Islam for all non-Muslims. And interview with Frank Gaffney.
http://www.securefreedomradio.org/2011/03/08/...

Also today on 1260 am 9pm WRC in Washington, 6pm, 9pm on 1410 KBNP, Portland, OR.
Reader

Columbus, OH

#42 Mar 8, 2011
Toni wrote:
<quoted text>
Your words reflect the mantra of this inept Administration who willingly turns its head to the reality of Sharia Law and those here in America who are working diligently to enact it.
How would Sharia slowly immerse into society and take control? They rely on politically correct zealots such as you. And slowing infiltrating all forms of government, from the bottom to the top to achieve their goal of submission to Islam. Success is guaranteed in numbers and station within the government. We are not talking about 10 years Progressive, possibly 50 years for the objectives they have outlined in the manifesto, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for North America."
Tell me how much does Soros's groups pay you to surf the Net to attempt to dissuade those who see the threat clearly?
You are grossly over-paid! Truth and convictions intimidates you Progressive Liberals on so many levels.
Well, ma'am, to answer your last question first, I am writing from Columbus, Ohio, and comment on various Columbus Dispatch articles on an ongoing basis. You on the other hand sport a KS ISP. Who is more likely to be the troll?

As far as the rest of what you have posted, well, if I were really interested in what Pam Geller thinks, I would read her blog. But a tiny bit of Pam goes a very long way, and I am way over my quota at this point.

Mostly I am just an old fashioned patriot. I grew up with some appreciation for this particular experiment in democracy that we live in and have learned that it ain't always easy to support free speech or the freedom to worship. Keeping things free and open for what I want to say means that I have to put up with Fred Phelps, Pam Geller, the KKK, Lyndon LaRouche, Rod Parsley and Glenn Beck to some extent. Of course each of them can push the envelope and must be reined in as appropriate. But reining any of them in because I disagree, rather than because of some act of violence committed by the KKK, or if Rod were to violate the tax code, or if Pam were to be guilty of slander, would be wrong.

There are some Muslims who have committed illegal acts, some of them in this country. Some terrorist groups are comprised of Muslims. Some who practice the physical disfigurement of women and young girls are Muslims. And each of these acts is heinous in and of itself. There is no need to implicate Islam, particularly in the face of many Muslims who openly and adamantly reject such practices as political terrorism, or disfigurement (and or murder) of women and girls. For many Muslims such acts are not only horrific, they are INCONSISTENT with their understanding of Islam. Just as I find it un-Christian for Fred Phelps to disrupt funeral services dispensing his hatred and misunderstandings. And yet, we both claim Christianity as a core belief and motivator.

Frankly, there are Christian wackos with plans and schemes just as frightening as any "manifesto" someone is circulating as proof of the evil nature of Islam. And all such wackos bear watching. But does this mean that we should be stomping out religion? Some have said so, and it grieves me to hear it. Does it mean that I as a Christian must be viewed as dangerous because the offspring of the Kansas City Saints are training young people to see themselves as warriors for God--preparing to overtake the government on behalf of Jesus Christ? Should I be held personally responsible for their plans and actions?

Or should I believe that only Muslims pose a danger?

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