Waco 1909

Lenoir, NC

#52136 Apr 26, 2014
Holder argues that the rationale behind extra-judicial killings of Americans (drones) is a state secret and cannot be revealed.
Waco 1909

Lenoir, NC

#52137 Apr 26, 2014
So much for a trial by your peers.
A nice tidy execution by drone.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52138 Apr 26, 2014
Rock wrote:
<quoted text> You are half correct on the rebuke part. He also called them names as well...I'll let you go back and see what he actually said to them first if you like. Or, I can do it for you, your choice.
You can do it, I know what you will write. Go ahead
Ben

Lenoir, NC

#52139 Apr 26, 2014
April 22, 2014 3:30 am
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A state that is nearly broke has no business spending $100 million on a potential Barack Obama presidential library.
But this is Illinois, where logic often takes a vacation. Throw in some parliamentary procedure shenanigans and the Obama presidential library is quickly becoming the typical Illinois government story spend money that isn't there and do it in a sneaky way.
The House executive committee last week approved borrowing $100 million to help finance a library for President Obama. Obama hasn't made a decision where his library will be located Hawaii and New York are also in the running. Also, recent presidential libraries Clinton and both Bushes built their libraries entirely with privately raised funds.But House Speaker Michael Madigan and Chicago mayor Rahm Emmanuel think that Illinois taxpayers need to kick in some extra to make sure the library is located in Chicago. They figure $100 million is a good start, but said that the taxpayers may need to contribute more at a later date. Madigan added that the $100 million is a small amount when compared to the $1 billion the state will pay in construction this year and he noted that the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum cost the state about $100 million. So there's a precedent.
Perhaps sensing the logic of their arguments was weak, Madigan engaged in a bit of parliamentary mischief. The executive committee was supposed to meet for discussion only and since no votes were planned, Republicans didn't attend the meeting. Madigan then declared a vote could be taken since the last committee hadn't been adjourned, but recessed. So the quorum from a previous meeting was used to push this onto the House floor." I like the part where no one knows WHERE it will be built!! LMAO, Toke,toke,toke, Dems. They say a sucker is born......
Ben

Lenoir, NC

#52140 Apr 26, 2014
"After 45 Chicagoans were shot over Easter weekend, including six children, Mayor Emanuel made another angry speech, talking about values and responsibility.But he shares a portion of responsibility, too particularly for his role pushing through a series of policies in the 1990s that have devastated the communities now plagued by violence.
As detailed in Kari Lydersen's book, Mayor 1%, Emanuel was chief arm-twister in ramming the North American Free Trade Act through a very reluctant Congress in 1993.(It passed although a majority of Democrats opposed it.) NAFTA was supposed to bring back manufacturing jobs, but it didn't: within ten years it had caused the loss of an estimated 1 million U.S. jobs.Chicago had been losing the kind of manufacturing jobs that supported black working-class neighborhoods since the 1970s, but NAFTA didn't help: between 2000 and 2010, Cook County lost 90,000 manufacturing jobs more than any county in the nation except Los Angeles. Today, thanks in part to a free-trade regime championed by Emanuel, which values corporate profits over communities, there is massive unemployment.Emanuel also pressed hard for welfare reform over the opposition of leading cabinet members that established limits on benefits and ultimately contributed to the growth of poverty and homelessness. Years later Emanuel celebrated welfare reform for "connecting a generation of children with a culture of work." Others argued that in reality, the initiative created a new underclass. Lydersen also cites evidence that Emanuel was a prime mover behind the Clinton administration's tough-on-crime agenda, which, like welfare reform, was a ploy to win votes from Republicans. It included billions of dollars for prison construction, three-strikes-you're-out provisions, an expanded death penalty and mandatory minimums for a range of offenses.The Clinton administration also banned drug offenders from receiving financial aid for college or from living in public housing. As Michelle Alexander recounts in The New Jim Crow, it "enacted a lifetime ban on eligibility for welfare or food stamps for anyone convicted of a felony drug offense including simple possession of marijuana."When the U.S. Sentencing Commission recommended reducing the penalty for crack cocaine possession which led to harsher sentences for blacks compared to whites the administration refused.The Clinton administration's crime policies with Emanuel as top cheerleader "resulted in the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history," according to the Justice Policy Institute.In 2010, a study by the National Institutes of Health reported, "Large areas of Chicago have escaped the brunt of the incarceration regime, while a small band of communities on the [West and South Sides] of Chicago are highly affected.""The combination of poverty, unemployment, family displacement, and racial isolation is bound up with high levels of incarceration," according to the report. This creates "a self-reinforcing cycle that keeps some communities trapped in a negative feedback loop."A few weeks ago Emanuel announced a pilot program to allow a handful of ex-offenders to live with their families in CHA housing. He didn't mention his role in implementing the policy which banned them in the first place.
Ben

Lenoir, NC

#52141 Apr 26, 2014
"Meanwhile, despite a new ordinance allowing Chicago police to issue tickets for possession of small amounts of marijuana, the Reader reports that over 20,000 Chicagoans were arrested for the offense since the ordinance went into effect 95 percent of them black or Latino. It appears to be part of a stop-and-frisk strategy to sweep young people off the streets often jailing them for months on minor charges that are dismissed when they finally come before a judge.

Anti-violence initiatives can make a crucial difference in individual lives and crime rates can also be lowered through statistical manipulation. But it will take radical changes to address the roots of violence in Chicago communities.

It will take a turn away from the policies of the past several decades, of public sector cutbacks and private sector subsidies, of abandoning the poor in the name of "personal responsibility," of using law enforcement not to mete out justice but as a form of racialized social control, of cutting taxes for the rich and cutting social programs for everyone else.

Those policies have failed." http://www.chicagoreporter.com
Rock

Franklin, NC

#52142 Apr 26, 2014
State of Florida wrote:
<quoted text>
You can do it, I know what you will write. Go ahead
Matthew 23:13-36 has that extensive list... Yes, Jesus rebuked, but this is the Son of God calling them just about every name in the book... I consider that matter of name calling true, you agree, yes? I would like to discuss your thoughts on Socialism and the teachings of Jesus that you had previously brought up.
Waco 1909

Lenoir, NC

#52143 Apr 26, 2014
Democrats snivel about Bundy paying his grazing fees, yet when the Obama hatchet men at IRS don't pay their own taxes, and get BONUSES FOR THAT, the hypocrats say nothing!
What scum.
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#52144 Apr 26, 2014
WTF (wow that's fantastic) Is the IRS accepting job applications? I think I could get into not paying taxes and would qualify for a big bonus.
Waco 1909 wrote:
Democrats snivel about Bundy paying his grazing fees, yet when the Obama hatchet men at IRS don't pay their own taxes, and get BONUSES FOR THAT, the hypocrats say nothing!
What scum.
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#52145 Apr 26, 2014
It will take a turn away from the policies of the past several decades, of public sector cutbacks and private sector subsidies, of abandoning the poor in the name of "personal responsibility," of using law enforcement not to mete out justice but as a form of racialized social control, of cutting taxes for the rich and cutting social programs for everyone else.

Sounds exactly like NC republikans.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52146 Apr 26, 2014
Ben, You seem to have a real infatuation with blacks and latinos in your posts. As fellow human beings, do you consider these minorities equal or inferior to yourself and other whites?
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52147 Apr 26, 2014
Rock,Let me preface this conversation by saying that Jesus had a very social ministry. I am in no way referring to Socialism as a form of government. Just want to make that clear.
Do you feel that Jesus:

Fed the hungry?
Defended the oppressed?
Stood up for women's rights?
Loved the outcast, the despised and rejected by society and all sinners?
Called on the rich and powerful to give their money to the poor?

Mingled with the Samaritans, a group despised by practicing Jews?
Viewed all people as being worthy of forgiveness?

Encouraged people to personally take care of all those in need?
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52148 Apr 26, 2014
Rock wrote:
<quoted text> Matthew 23:13-36 has that extensive list... Yes, Jesus rebuked, but this is the Son of God calling them just about every name in the book... I consider that matter of name calling true, you agree, yes? I would like to discuss your thoughts on Socialism and the teachings of Jesus that you had previously brought up.
Was he perfect? Are we? Is there a difference?
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#52149 Apr 26, 2014
Uh Oh. Looks like "Throw you off the f---ing balcony" republican congressman Michael Grimm, will be indicted for corruption, mail fraud etc. Chalk up another one for our fine upstanding congressional leaders.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52150 Apr 26, 2014
Waco, If indeed the IRS is doing as you stated, it should be stopped and a complete overhual done within the bureau. Now, do you agree that the IRS needs to be abolished as suggested by Ted Cruz? If this were done, how would taxes be collected in this country?
Rock

Franklin, NC

#52151 Apr 26, 2014
State of Florida wrote:
Rock,Let me preface this conversation by saying that Jesus had a very social ministry. I am in no way referring to Socialism as a form of government. Just want to make that clear.
Do you feel that Jesus:
Fed the hungry?
Defended the oppressed?
Stood up for women's rights?
Loved the outcast, the despised and rejected by society and all sinners?
Called on the rich and powerful to give their money to the poor?
Mingled with the Samaritans, a group despised by practicing Jews?
Viewed all people as being worthy of forgiveness?
Encouraged people to personally take care of all those in need?
I understand where you're coming from; and I'd answer "yes" to all those points as well State.
Rock

Franklin, NC

#52152 Apr 26, 2014
State of Florida wrote:
<quoted text>
Was he perfect? Are we? Is there a difference?
Of course He was...and we certainly are not...Your last question, could you explain that more clearly please. Now, after reading what Jesus called the religious leaders, scribes and lawyers, do you agree that He called them names? In fact, He called them far worse than just calling them " low lifes"; would you agree to that as well?
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52153 Apr 26, 2014
Rock wrote:
<quoted text> I understand where you're coming from; and I'd answer "yes" to all those points as well State.
These princples are some of the reasons I am a Democrat, although I know that the Democrat party makes mistakes as it is made up of human beings. I am not preaching, but to me, Democrats do work more in the area of social justice than Republicans, but that is just my perspective and belief for what it is worth.
TSF

Holly Springs, NC

#52154 Apr 26, 2014
The ONLY thing republikans are FOR is tax breaks for the rich.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52155 Apr 26, 2014
Rock wrote:
<quoted text> Of course He was...and we certainly are not...Your last question, could you explain that more clearly please. Now, after reading what Jesus called the religious leaders, scribes and lawyers, do you agree that He called them names? In fact, He called them far worse than just calling them " low lifes"; would you agree to that as well?
Yes, he did rebuke them, and If you want to describe it as calling them names, he certainly did. I think the difference is he was a perfect entity without sin, so the calling them these names did have an intended point where our calling others harmful names (that I am extremely guilty of ) is just designed to hurt or degrade and done in anger. Jesus did this to get their attention, and then always followed it up with the truth about God, that by their stong hold on to Jewish tradition, the scribes and pharisees otherwise would not listen to. Jesus had two primary missions: to teach truth and to die on the cross. He completed both missions with perfection.

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