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Since: Dec 11

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#41327 Aug 1, 2013
TSF wrote:
So a private school teacher who didn't even finish high school herself is qualified to teach geometry? Trigonometry? Physics? Chemistry? Biology? Advanced algebra? Calculus? Possible but also highly unlikely. Without required credentials, who knows who is qualified? That's the point.
You must have had a really terrible experience in the public schools. Would you tell us about that?
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Again, where is your evidence that shows private school teachers aren't qualified?

Since: Dec 11

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#41328 Aug 1, 2013
TSF wrote:
What local paper? Which date?
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The Gaston Gazette, Wed's edition. I'm sure you can read for yourself online.

Since: Dec 11

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#41329 Aug 1, 2013
TSF wrote:
Could you name a few of the local private schools which are producing such wonderful and transformative results? Where are they located? How much is the tuition? What courses do they offer? What are the qualifications of their teachers? Who evaluates their performance which is so outstanding? Have criminal background checks been made on all of them including the owners and administrators? Its just possible that you are telling the truth about the pervasive advantages of private schools and their affordability to everyone. Give me some information. I may want to change my mind. I need numbers and facts . No BS please.
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Of course there are to many to list but to just give a few, Iredell Co. has Davidson Day, McKinney Academy (K-5), Mecklenburg Co. has Charlotte Catholic, Providence Day, Charlotte Country Day, Charlotte Latin, and Gaston Co. has Gaston Day, Gaston Christian, Cramerton Christian, etc.... and the list goes on and on.
Gaston Day, for example, where my children attend/attended has a 100% graduation rate with nearly 100% of those graduates attending a four year college/university. Most of the teachers hold advanced degrees and their last year's average SAT scores were, Critical Reading - 603, Mathmatics - 606, & Writing - 613. Show me a govt school, not a magnet school, that can boast those numbers? Their students are evaluated by the Educational Records Bureau (ERB) through a standardized national test that measures quantitative reasoning, verbal reasoning, math achievement and application skills. Score results compare students with three different categories of test-takers,(1) all students nationally,(2) suburban public school students, and (3) students in independent schools, to which they continuously rank near or at the top in all categories.
The "average" tuition for these private schools is about $7,300 while public schools waste the taxpayers money to the tune of around $12,700 per student. As far as courses, the sky is the limit. Most private middle school students are already learning what the govt high school kids are learning including foreign languages, international studies, fine arts, technology, etc....
As far as affordability, that depends on what one thinks is important. Most parents would rather have a fancy house and a fancy car to impress people they don't know and rely on the govt to educate their children. Those who truly care about their children's future forgo the ritzy lifestyle and choose private education. In the long run, it'll be those parents who get the greatest return on their investment!
gyttleman

Pittsburgh, PA

#41330 Aug 2, 2013
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john hamhock

Matthews, NC

#41331 Aug 2, 2013
gyttleman wrote:
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If ONLY that were true! And obama was GONE!!
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#41332 Aug 2, 2013
Well duh! If the private school teachers aren't even required to finish high school themselves? You have to be kidding.
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Again, where is your evidence that shows private school teachers aren't qualified?
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#41333 Aug 2, 2013
Gas stone ya ? I might have known it would be the Mecca of NC.
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>The Gaston Gazette, Wed's edition. I'm sure you can read for yourself online.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#41334 Aug 2, 2013
Wow. What you are saying about your kids school is fantastic. So I checked. Here is what I know so far: 1. The tuition for my two high school students would be $13,640 EACH or a total of $27,280 per year. 2. Obviously, I will have to buy their books, supplies and lunch. 3. They have listed 18 administrators and 22 teachers so they are just barley under public schools in their top heavy administration percentage 4. They do not list courses available other than music, art, theater, French and Spanish. apparently, advanced classes are only offered "online"which can be done at home 5. The evaluating organization ERB that you mentioned is a paid membership organization.( You pay them to give you an evaluation. I guess the more Gaston Days them, the better your evaluation) 6. Gaston Day is 68 miles from my home , so I would be driving 136 miles per day for say 180 days or 24480 miles per year or at .$50 per mile would be $12,240 per year).(about 2 1/2 hours driving per day. 7 The faculty is listed, but their academic credentials are not listed. If I were running such a fantastic school with such qualified teachers, I would proudly list their academic qualifications. If I were running such a fantastic school, I would also list the course selection available.
8 . I notice that a requirement for students is that they must display exemplary conduct . That tells me that there are no rapist, armed robbers, or even murderers sent there by the courts and that the disruptive students who would bring down learning and test score averages are not even there to be figured into the "average"

So lets see here:$27280 tuition +$12240 transportation + books + supplies + miscellaneous= more than $40,000 per year. So the state will give Gaston Day $4500 per student,(If my kids qualify) so I still end up paying over $30,000 per year for my kids to attend Gaston Day and they will be taking "online courses" for advanced subjects?.
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Of course there are to many to list but to just give a few, Iredell Co. has Davidson Day, McKinney Academy (K-5), Mecklenburg Co. has Charlotte Catholic, Providence Day, Charlotte Country Day, Charlotte Latin, and Gaston Co. has Gaston Day, Gaston Christian, Cramerton Christian, etc.... and the list goes on and on.
Gaston Day, for example, where my children attend/attended has a 100% graduation rate with nearly 100% of those graduates attending a four year college/university. Most of the teachers hold advanced degrees and their last year's average SAT scores were, Critical Reading - 603, Mathmatics - 606, & Writing - 613. Show me a govt school, not a magnet school, that can boast those numbers? Their students are evaluated by the Educational Records Bureau (ERB) through a standardized national test that measures quantitative reasoning, verbal reasoning, math achievement and application skills. Score results compare students with three different categories of test-takers,(1) all students nationally,(2) suburban public school students, and (3) students in independent schools, to which they continuously rank near or at the top in all categories.
The "average" tuition for these private schools is about $7,300 while public schools waste the taxpayers money to the tune of around $12,700 per student. As far as courses, the sky is the limit. Most private middle school students are already learning what the govt high school kids are learning including foreign languages, international studies, fine arts, technology, etc....
As far as affordability, that depends on what one thinks is important. Most parents would rather have a fancy house and a fancy car to impress people they don't know and rely on the govt to educate their children. Those who truly care about their children's future forgo the ritzy lifestyle and choose private education. In the long run, it'll be those parents who get the greatest return on their investment!
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#41335 Aug 2, 2013
Wow. What you are saying about your kids school is fantastic. So I checked. Here is what I know so far: 1. The tuition for my two high school students would be $13,640 EACH or a total of $27,280 per year. 2. Obviously, I will have to buy their books, supplies and lunch. 3. They have listed 18 administrators and 22 teachers so they are just barley under public schools in their top heavy administration percentage 4. They do not list courses available other than music, art, theater, French and Spanish. apparently, advanced classes are only offered "online"which can be done at home 5. The evaluating organization ERB that you mentioned is a paid membership organization.( You pay them to give you an evaluation. I guess the more Gaston Days them, the better your evaluation) 6. Gaston Day is 68 miles from my home , so I would be driving 136 miles per day for say 180 days or 24480 miles per year or at .$50 per mile would be $12,240 per year).(about 2 1/2 hours driving per day. 7 The faculty is listed, but their academic credentials are not listed. If I were running such a fantastic school with such qualified teachers, I would proudly list their academic qualifications. If I were running such a fantastic school, I would also list the course selection available.
8 . I notice that a requirement for students is that they must display exemplary conduct . That tells me that there are no rapist, armed robbers, or even murderers sent there by the courts and that the disruptive students who would bring down learning and test score averages are not even there to be figured into the "average".

So lets see here:$27280 tuition +$12240 transportation + books + supplies + miscellaneous= more than $40,000 per year. So the state will give Gaston Day $4500 per student,(If my kids qualify) so I still end up paying over $30,000 per year for my kids to attend Gaston Day and they will be taking "online courses" for advanced subjects?.
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Of course there are to many to list but to just give a few, Iredell Co. has Davidson Day, McKinney Academy (K-5), Mecklenburg Co. has Charlotte Catholic, Providence Day, Charlotte Country Day, Charlotte Latin, and Gaston Co. has Gaston Day, Gaston Christian, Cramerton Christian, etc.... and the list goes on and on.
Gaston Day, for example, where my children attend/attended has a 100% graduation rate with nearly 100% of those graduates attending a four year college/university. Most of the teachers hold advanced degrees and their last year's average SAT scores were, Critical Reading - 603, Mathmatics - 606, & Writing - 613. Show me a govt school, not a magnet school, that can boast those numbers? Their students are evaluated by the Educational Records Bureau (ERB) through a standardized national test that measures quantitative reasoning, verbal reasoning, math achievement and application skills. Score results compare students with three different categories of test-takers,(1) all students nationally,(2) suburban public school students, and (3) students in independent schools, to which they continuously rank near or at the top in all categories.
The "average" tuition for these private schools is about $7,300 while public schools waste the taxpayers money to the tune of around $12,700 per student. As far as courses, the sky is the limit. Most private middle school students are already learning what the govt high school kids are learning including foreign languages, international studies, fine arts, technology, etc....
As far as affordability, that depends on what one thinks is important. Most parents would rather have a fancy house and a fancy car to impress people they don't know and rely on the govt to educate their children. Those who truly care about their children's future forgo the ritzy lifestyle and choose private education. In the long run, it'll be those parents who get the greatest return on their investment!
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#41336 Aug 2, 2013
I can afford to send my kids to Gaston (but I am not going to because I can administer "online " courses from home). Now there is a single mom out the street who has a kid who could possibly benefit from a program of music, art, theater French and Spanish . She works at Hardees and makes $10 per hour for 40 hours per week for 50 weeks per year. That's $20,000 BEFORE TAXES and earned income credit has been eliminated in NC. The state will give her kid $4500 to attend Gaston so including transportation, she will only have to pay $11,380 for her kid to attend if the kid skips lunch each day. She is paying $500. per month on rent which is $6000 per year. That will leave her $50 per week for food . Well som would say impossible, but there are lots of possums run over in the road, and she could pick them up and eat those., I am glad the state wants to help her out.
waco1909

Park Ridge, IL

#41337 Aug 2, 2013
I feel gay teachers have the most to loose in these changes because of discrimination.

Since: Dec 11

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#41338 Aug 2, 2013
TSF wrote:
Wow. What you are saying about your kids school is fantastic. So I checked. Here is what I know so far: 1. The tuition for my two high school students would be $13,640 EACH or a total of $27,280 per year. 2. Obviously, I will have to buy their books, supplies and lunch. 3. They have listed 18 administrators and 22 teachers so they are just barley under public schools in their top heavy administration percentage 4. They do not list courses available other than music, art, theater, French and Spanish. apparently, advanced classes are only offered "online"which can be done at home 5. The evaluating organization ERB that you mentioned is a paid membership organization.( You pay them to give you an evaluation. I guess the more Gaston Days them, the better your evaluation) 6. Gaston Day is 68 miles from my home , so I would be driving 136 miles per day for say 180 days or 24480 miles per year or at .$50 per mile would be $12,240 per year).(about 2 1/2 hours driving per day. 7 The faculty is listed, but their academic credentials are not listed. If I were running such a fantastic school with such qualified teachers, I would proudly list their academic qualifications. If I were running such a fantastic school, I would also list the course selection available.
8 . I notice that a requirement for students is that they must display exemplary conduct . That tells me that there are no rapist, armed robbers, or even murderers sent there by the courts and that the disruptive students who would bring down learning and test score averages are not even there to be figured into the "average"
So lets see here:$27280 tuition +$12240 transportation + books + supplies + miscellaneous= more than $40,000 per year. So the state will give Gaston Day $4500 per student,(If my kids qualify) so I still end up paying over $30,000 per year for my kids to attend Gaston Day and they will be taking "online courses" for advanced subjects?.
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Nice over exaggeration! The SAT test scores, the graduation rates, university admissions, etc... don't lie! Surely you've heard the phrase "you get what you pay for?" Again, you, in general, can choose to live the ritzy lifestyle while being asshole deep in debt to impress people you don't know and send your children to govt schools to mingle with the rapist, drug pushing, gangster thugs only to be indoctrinated, and maybe, if you're lucky, your child can be one too OR you can forgo all of the material things that arent important and invest in your child's future. I'll stick with the private schools!

Since: Dec 11

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#41339 Aug 2, 2013
TSF wrote:
I can afford to send my kids to Gaston (but I am not going to because I can administer "online " courses from home). Now there is a single mom out the street who has a kid who could possibly benefit from a program of music, art, theater French and Spanish . She works at Hardees and makes $10 per hour for 40 hours per week for 50 weeks per year. That's $20,000 BEFORE TAXES and earned income credit has been eliminated in NC. The state will give her kid $4500 to attend Gaston so including transportation, she will only have to pay $11,380 for her kid to attend if the kid skips lunch each day. She is paying $500. per month on rent which is $6000 per year. That will leave her $50 per week for food . Well som would say impossible, but there are lots of possums run over in the road, and she could pick them up and eat those., I am glad the state wants to help her out.
Had your govt school taught that single mother to keep her legs closed, focus on her education, to choose a career path to where she possesses the skill set to excel,(and no, prostitution is not an acceptable career path), and to not even think about starting a family until she was mature enough to handle the responsibilities that come along with children, she wouldn't be in that predicament!
But then again, that's part of the liberal agenda being taught by govt schools! Live liberal and free and rely on others, mainly the govt/taxpayers, for your every need!

Since: Dec 11

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#41340 Aug 2, 2013
TSF wrote:
Gas stone ya ? I might have known it would be the Mecca of NC.
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That's the pot calling the kettle black!
waco1909

Park Ridge, IL

#41341 Aug 2, 2013
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>That's the pot calling the kettle black!
The black kettle promotes the pot.

Since: Dec 11

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#41342 Aug 2, 2013
TSF wrote:
Well duh! If the private school teachers aren't even required to finish high school themselves? You have to be kidding.
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So on one hand you claim Voter ID laws aren't needed because there's no "proof" of voter fraud and on the other you claim private school teachers aren't qualified because they don't have to show "proof" of their credentials. Sounds like a contradiction to me!

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#41343 Aug 2, 2013
TSF wrote:
Math lesson: A public school teacher has four 90 minute classes per day and there are 30 students in each class. Assuming no interruptions such as office announcements, pronouncements, assemblies, standardized test, etc., how much time does the teacher have for attention to an individual student?(assume no time lost moving between students and all students getting equal time)?

Answer: 360 minutes/ 120 students= 3 minutes /student/day

What the hell, she cant teach them in 3 minutes. Obviously a bad teacher.
You don't need a lot of time to teach or motivate individuals. Proof of that can be found in many places in history. General Patton did quite a bit of motivation in a very short speech.

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#41344 Aug 2, 2013
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Therein lies the problem with your question, the teacher isn't teaching to each individual student seperatly but rather to each individual student independently as a group/class. If he/she met with each student individually then your answer would be correct but the last time I checked, the teacher teaches to each individual student as a group/class, so the correct answer, without any interruptions, would be 360 mins or 6 hrs.(Even if you factor in that some students may need extra attention, there are also those who pick it up on the first lesson so they cancel each other out.)
Now you take those 6 hrs a day and multiply by 180 (the number of days in an average school year) and we'll find the teacher has 1,080 hrs to teach any said subject. Now if he/she can't get the job done in 1,080 hrs, regardless of class size, then yes, they are a bad teacher!
Pro, don't forget that today's teachers are teaching from a preset curriculum.

Children today will be good fund raisers, test takers and participants in life. Few leaders are being

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#41345 Aug 2, 2013
TSF wrote:
<quoted text>Wow. What you are saying about your kids school is fantastic. So I checked. Here is what I know so far: 1. The tuition for my two high school students would be $13,640 EACH or a total of $27,280 per year. 2. Obviously, I will have to buy their books, supplies and lunch. 3. They have listed 18 administrators and 22 teachers so they are just barley under public schools in their top heavy administration percentage 4. They do not list courses available other than music, art, theater, French and Spanish. apparently, advanced classes are only offered "online"which can be done at home 5. The evaluating organization ERB that you mentioned is a paid membership organization.( You pay them to give you an evaluation. I guess the more Gaston Days them, the better your evaluation) 6. Gaston Day is 68 miles from my home , so I would be driving 136 miles per day for say 180 days or 24480 miles per year or at .$50 per mile would be $12,240 per year).(about 2 1/2 hours driving per day. 7 The faculty is listed, but their academic credentials are not listed. If I were running such a fantastic school with such qualified teachers, I would proudly list their academic qualifications. If I were running such a fantastic school, I would also list the course selection available.
8 . I notice that a requirement for students is that they must display exemplary conduct . That tells me that there are no rapist, armed robbers, or even murderers sent there by the courts and that the disruptive students who would bring down learning and test score averages are not even there to be figured into the "average"

So lets see here:$27280 tuition +$12240 transportation + books + supplies + miscellaneous= more than $40,000 per year. So the state will give Gaston Day $4500 per student,(If my kids qualify) so I still end up paying over $30,000 per year for my kids to attend Gaston Day and they will be taking "online courses" for advanced subjects?.
Sounds like a very wise investment. After all what $$ amount would you put on the future of your children.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#41346 Aug 2, 2013
The only reason I oppose the voter ID bill is that it wastes money addressing a non problem. I think I must be qualified to do brain surgery. Since I don't need credentials, I will do your first surgery at a d10% discount.
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>So on one hand you claim Voter ID laws aren't needed because there's no "proof" of voter fraud and on the other you claim private school teachers aren't qualified because they don't have to show "proof" of their credentials. Sounds like a contradiction to me!

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