Curious

Summersville, WV

#1 Sep 24, 2009
Has anyone heard of a preacher named Jeff Rowland?
falala

Simpsonville, SC

#2 Feb 21, 2010
Curious wrote:
Has anyone heard of a preacher named Jeff Rowland?
yes.
back in the day

Taylorsville, NC

#3 Sep 27, 2010
Curious wrote:
Has anyone heard of a preacher named Jeff Rowland?
he was the preacher of Gospel Way Baptist church for years. There was big scandals after they built a school. the church split & later so did he..
JSRfan

Allegan, MI

#4 Jan 12, 2011
Yes. He is a travelling revival pastor and member of a gospel group with 2 other men. He is an amazing speaker and man.
Jeff Rowland

Lockport, IL

#5 Apr 10, 2011
If anyone who is curious wants to know about me from back in the day, you can falala our website at valor iii.com . I'm still preaching and singing and in love with Jesus and greater is He that is within me than He that is in the world. Thanks Mr. MAIDEN
back in the day

Taylorsville, NC

#6 Apr 12, 2011
Actually it's Miss Maiden...I was not only a member of your church, but a student at your school. I meant to disrespect towards you... just answered the question if I knew you. I did not give specifics on the things I know and would not post them online anyway. Good luck to you.
his good friend

Statesville, NC

#7 Apr 13, 2011
back in the day wrote:
Actually it's Miss Maiden...I was not only a member of your church, but a student at your school. I meant to disrespect towards you... just answered the question if I knew you. I did not give specifics on the things I know and would not post them online anyway. Good luck to you.
I've know him for 25 years. He's my best friend I have in the world. I was a member of that church the whole time he was pastor, and 14 years before that. The only scandels were the lies told about the church as well as him personaly. He remained pastor for many years after the school closed. The reason for the school closing was lack of funding. He is a man of great faith, and as my utmost respect. If you didn't want to disrespect him, you would have chsen your words differently.
back in the day

Taylorsville, NC

#8 Apr 14, 2011
his good friend wrote:
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I've know him for 25 years. He's my best friend I have in the world. I was a member of that church the whole time he was pastor, and 14 years before that. The only scandels were the lies told about the church as well as him personaly. He remained pastor for many years after the school closed. The reason for the school closing was lack of funding. He is a man of great faith, and as my utmost respect. If you didn't want to disrespect him, you would have chsen your words differently.
Though I appreciate your commitment to him, I didn’t say anything that was untrue. I am very aware many things were lies both personally & professionally. The church did split after the “school” was built. A church was built not a school. You call it lack of funding, the majority of everyone else calls it mishandled funding. Either way that responsibility didn’t rest solely on the pastor’s shoulders and I never said it did. I also never said he left directly after the school shut down. There were things that happened within the church that were very true and swept under the rug to protect certain leaders of that church as well as a family name. I personally was asked to keep what happened to me quiet. I was a child and should not have been put in that position. I should have been protected. Mark, forgive me if my wording offended you but I was not and have never been disrespectful towards Jeff. Most of you (then adults) I’m sure have moved on from all that happened but us (then children) were never given the chance to voice our thoughts to be able to begin to heal. Again, thank you for listening and good luck to you all.
Mark

Statesville, NC

#9 Apr 14, 2011
back in the day wrote:
<quoted text>
Though I appreciate your commitment to him, I didn’t say anything that was untrue. I am very aware many things were lies both personally & professionally. The church did split after the “school” was built. A church was built not a school. You call it lack of funding, the majority of everyone else calls it mishandled funding. Either way that responsibility didn’t rest solely on the pastor’s shoulders and I never said it did. I also never said he left directly after the school shut down. There were things that happened within the church that were very true and swept under the rug to protect certain leaders of that church as well as a family name. I personally was asked to keep what happened to me quiet. I was a child and should not have been put in that position. I should have been protected. Mark, forgive me if my wording offended you but I was not and have never been disrespectful towards Jeff. Most of you (then adults) I’m sure have moved on from all that happened but us (then children) were never given the chance to voice our thoughts to be able to begin to heal. Again, thank you for listening and good luck to you all.
The fact that the church had grown to the point that there was no longer seating room in the sancuary should have been a good report on the church. But instead, people who didn't want the church that owned the school to be able to use the building the church built for the school never made sence to me. I was on the board of directors for the school, and I can promise you there was no mishandeling of funds. And my wife was then and still is church treasurer, so I can say with no doubt there was no ill handeling of funds. I know where every dollar was spent in that school and where it came from. Fact is, there was not enough students to pay the salaries of the teachers, and that is why to school closed. I know many of you students do not believe that,and that is fine, But Donna and I personally paid the salary of every teacher the last year the school was open. I said no more, and that's why the school closed. I don't care if you believe it or not, thats the truth of why the school closed. I don't know what you are refering to that happened to you personally, but I really don't think Jeff ever did anything to you or anyone else. Your orginal post made it sound as if Jeff was in the middle of a scandle, and that is not the truth. I just wanted to make that clear. Your original post said "The church split and so did he". To me, that put him in a bad light to the readers of this post. And I will not let anyone say bad things about him without responding. The church "split" came from those who didn't want to hear the truth from the Word of God, or from those who were so selfish as not to allow the church and school share the same buildings.
back in the day

Taylorsville, NC

#10 Apr 15, 2011
Listen, I understand there is a defense out there for everything. It seemed terribly convenient at the time when the school closed very close to the timing of the building being completed. Maybe it was all just bad timing but it left a terrible impression either way. Regardless why or how it all happened and it affected many people. I'm not interested in fighting.
You are right you have no idea what happened to me in that church. I only told the one person that needed to know, my preacher. You can doubt what ever you wish. Again, I did not say Jeff “did” anything “to” me. It’s what he didn’t do for me. As the leader of any church the priority should be the safety and well being of the children. When the things that happened to me were brought to light this man should be dealt with. The man, apparently known for these types of actions, should have been removed from the leadership position he held at the time. He was not removed because of who he was.“He has done this kind of thing before in other places” should have been all the more reason he should not have been in leadership in the first place. For you to say all the people that left the church in the split left because they were unwilling to listen to the Word of God or because they were selfish is irresponsible and reckless. Some of us left the church because the trust was gone and the only thing left was disappointment and fear. A fear that I carry with me now as a mother terrified to be involved in church….terrified to teach my child to trust anyone outside of his parents. Whether you agree or not my feelings and thoughts are valid.
To Jeff, I do apologize for my initial statement. If I knew how to delete it I would. I did not come here to crucify you. Months ago when I saw the post asking about you, it all came back like a ton of bricks. My comment was a kneejerk reaction to old painful wounds. I obviously have no healed to the point I wish I could but one day hopefully I will. I truly mean you no disrespect but you did let me down. Your inaction was almost as bad as the actions that man decided to take. I trusted you.
I guess we live and learn.
Behind the pulpit & singing you have sincere gifts. I am glad that what ever has happened to you between then and now has not waivered your faith. I wish you nothing but the best.
Thank you.
Mark

Columbus, OH

#11 Apr 16, 2011
I truly am sorry for what ever happened to you. I don't know what you're talking about, but if you were wronged in any way I really am very sorry. I was in a high leadership position for a long time, and I don't know what happened in your case.I don't know who you are for one, and I don't know of any church leader who ever harmed a child. I am sorry if I sounded harsh in my earlier post, but some of the things stated didn't add up to me. I know the reason for the school closing. I also know of some people leaving the church after the school closing. But Jeff and the board of directors did nothing wrong in closing the school. There was no misshandeling of funds as was stated, only not enough funds to keep the school open. Some people got upset when the school closed, and that is what I thought you were refering to as a church split. Those were the ones I was talking about. You seemed to take your hurt from this "man" out on Jeff and the school. I truly hope you will find healing and closure to your hurts. I will pray for you, and trust you will pray for me, Jeff, and Valor III as we continue to do Gods work.
Mark

Columbus, OH

#12 Apr 16, 2011
back in the day wrote:
Listen, I understand there is a defense out there for everything. It seemed terribly convenient at the time when the school closed very close to the timing of the building being completed. Maybe it was all just bad timing but it left a terrible impression either way. Regardless why or how it all happened and it affected many people. I'm not interested in fighting.
You are right you have no idea what happened to me in that church. I only told the one person that needed to know, my preacher. You can doubt what ever you wish. Again, I did not say Jeff “did” anything “to” me. It’s what he didn’t do for me. As the leader of any church the priority should be the safety and well being of the children. When the things that happened to me were brought to light this man should be dealt with. The man, apparently known for these types of actions, should have been removed from the leadership position he held at the time. He was not removed because of who he was.“He has done this kind of thing before in other places” should have been all the more reason he should not have been in leadership in the first place. For you to say all the people that left the church in the split left because they were unwilling to listen to the Word of God or because they were selfish is irresponsible and reckless. Some of us left the church because the trust was gone and the only thing left was disappointment and fear. A fear that I carry with me now as a mother terrified to be involved in church….terrified to teach my child to trust anyone outside of his parents. Whether you agree or not my feelings and thoughts are valid.
To Jeff, I do apologize for my initial statement. If I knew how to delete it I would. I did not come here to crucify you. Months ago when I saw the post asking about you, it all came back like a ton of bricks. My comment was a kneejerk reaction to old painful wounds. I obviously have no healed to the point I wish I could but one day hopefully I will. I truly mean you no disrespect but you did let me down. Your inaction was almost as bad as the actions that man decided to take. I trusted you.
I guess we live and learn.
Behind the pulpit & singing you have sincere gifts. I am glad that what ever has happened to you between then and now has not waivered your faith. I wish you nothing but the best.
Thank you.
I don't understand the statement "bad timing". The school used the new building at least three or four years before closing. Were you there the whole time? Makes me wander.....

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