MTA conductor killed in Harlem shootout

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An MTA employee was killed early Saturday morning in a shootout in Harlem before police intervened, shooting and wounding the alleged gunman, officials said.
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Diahann Moyler

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#35
Jun 24, 2007
 
You racists with your KFC fried chicken jokes and watermelon lines. That is so yesterday. YEAH, we love fried chicken and watermelon. I know I do and so do you! And as for lazy and shooting the breeze. We labored for you lazy MFers for so long, you invented the word. So sorry slavery had to end - bet you are!!!!
Stuart wrote:
Also notice that the shooting occured outside a fried chicken restaurant. I wonder if they were going to have watermelon afterwards?
The Conductor

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#36
Jun 24, 2007
 
I saw the video on channel 7 of the man getting arrested. He was putting up quite a fight. I commend the NYPD for not beating him unconscious before loading him into the squad car. Those pinko ghouls and their video cameras were there though.
Diahann Moyler

Flushing, NY

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#37
Jun 24, 2007
 
Dats funny, Tookie. I bet you're a Harvard graduate. HA HA HA!!!1
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dis happins to mes once whens eyes wuz buyinz watermellons in whats
stacey

Massapequa, NY

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#38
Jun 24, 2007
 
and the white females kill newborns and dump the babies in the woods and
white small di-- jerks cut up people and eat them.

the media rocks!
Diahann Moyler

Flushing, NY

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#39
Jun 24, 2007
 
Well, Mr. Bangcock Bill. If you read your Thailand news, I see there was a big cocaine bust, rape and a few murders. Those black people just get everywhere. We are over there in Thailand corrupting the people. Look in your own backyard before you go messing with your neighbor.
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<quoted text>They are writing about the perp(susp) if he wasn't black I would truly be amazed in Thailand!You are a liberal fool.
NappyHappy

New York, NY

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#40
Jun 24, 2007
 
Naturally, a black man in Harlem without a gun is like saying soccer moms in Levittown dont use cell phones while driving.

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#41
Jun 24, 2007
 
This all has absolutely nothing to do with what someone eats; the fact again is that someone innocent is dead. I like KFC and I like watermelon, does that make me a bad person, and to remind everyone again, I am white. He didn't go there looking for trouble.

I live in an area where there are just as many bad white kids as black kids running around with guns in their pockets waiting to start a fight. One kid gets into an argument with another kid, and before you know it there are 10-20 kids involved, and yes some are packing guns when they show up. That is the problem that needs to be addressed, it doesn’t matter what color they are.

I used to live in a state where everyone owned a gun, but that gun was used to shoot snakes or protect our livestock from other animals.

I am not against guns, I had one myself, but none of us ever thought to confront a problem with someone by sticking a gun in their face...and yes, before you say anything, we had black people living there too, and we all got along just fine.

This should not be a racial issue just because the people involved happened to be black, so stop making it one.

All I know is that the man killed had a family out there. A family who loved him. Now his child has to grow up without a father. He was also a son, a grandson, a nephew, and a cousin, and they are all hurting terribly. Their lives will never be the same. Please show his family some respect and compassion rather than making it look like everyone feels he deserved to be killed simply because he was black.
KBM

Bronx, NY

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#42
Jun 24, 2007
 
Races in New York:

White Non-Hispanic (35.0%)
Hispanic (27.0%)
Black (26.6%)
Other race (13.4%)
Two or more races (4.9%)
Chinese (4.5%)
Asian Indian (2.1%)
American Indian (1.1%)
Korean (1.1%)
Other Asian (1.0%)
Filipino (0.7%)
(Total can be greater than 100% because Hispanics could be counted in other races)

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*“… between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.”

* Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.

*“Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.”

* Nationally, youth gangs are 90 percent non-white.“Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.”

*“Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.”

* Far from being guilty of “racially profiling” innocent blacks, police have been exercising racial bias on behalf of blacks, arresting fewer blacks than their proportion of criminals:“… blacks who committed crimes that were reported to the police were 26 percent less likely to be arrested than people of other races who committed the same crimes.”

*“Blacks are eight times more likely than people of other races to rob someone and 5.5 times more likely to steal a car.”

* Charges of racial profiling, which maintain that police target innocent black motorists for traffic stops notwithstanding, a 2002 study by Maryland’s Public Service Research Institute found that police were stopping too few black speeders (23%), compared to their proportion of actual speeders (25%). In fact,“blacks were twice as likely to speed as whites” in general, and there was an even higher frequency of black speeders in the 90-mph and higher range.

* Blacks not only commit violent crimes at far higher rates than non-blacks, but their crimes are more violent than those of whites. Blacks are three times as likely as non-blacks to commit assault with guns, and twice as likely as non-blacks to commit assault with knives.

* The single greatest indicator of an area’s crime rate is not poverty or education, but race and ethnicity. Even when one controls for income, the black crime rate is much higher than the white rate.

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Most violent crime in our country is committed by blacks. According to U.S. Department of Justice statistics, blacks commit 54 percent of murders, 42 percent of forcible rapes, 59 percent of robberies and 38 percent of aggravated assaults. For the most part, the victims are black. Ninety-three percent of murdered blacks were murdered by a black.

In fact, most victims of violent crimes report having been victimized by a member of their own race. However, in the case of interracial violent crime, blacks are 50 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than whites against blacks. Bureau of Justice victimization reports show that 89 percent of interracial crimes involved black perpetrators and white victims.

Facts are fatcs. When you're lost and see Martin Luther King Blvd, don't roll down the window and ask for directions. You're in a high crime shithole, and you need to get out of there!

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#43
Jun 24, 2007
 
I know what the statistics say, I've seen them. I do not condone violence in any race. Again, that is not my point, I'm just disgusted that just about every post that I've read on here either refers to the fact that Justin was black, in Harlem or at a KFC. He was a young man that did not deserve to die.

If there was a white guy standing in that same spot at the same time, he probably would have been shot & killed too. Then everyone would be talking about the poor white guy that was shot by the black thugs, and not talking about how this black guy deserved to be killed because he was black.

Nobody, black or white has the right to take anyone's life, only God can make the decision who lives and who dies.

I agree that the shooter was absolutely wrong at shooting anyone in the first place. Yes, in this case the shooter was also black, but not all people who kill other people are black.

Unfortunately, people are killed needlessly everyday with every race, the media just seems to like to bring up the racial angle with things like this.

I pray that the man who shot Justin is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and lives a long miserable life remembering what he did to someone and his family members.

When the terrorists struck, American's joined together as one. It didn't seem to matter what color any was at that point, we were all just Americans, and that's the way it should be.
KBM

Bronx, NY

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#44
Jun 24, 2007
 
I agree that the KFC comments were out of line, and if the MTA conductor was truly an innocent person caught in the crossfire, then it is a tragedy and I hope his killer is in a lot of pain right now from the police bullets. I hope he eventually dies so we won't have to support his ass for the rest of his pointless life. HOWEVER, shootings like this are all too common in black neighborhoods, and something needs to be done to stem the tide. The cops here behaved heroically, as 99.9% of them do, and they not only took the shooter out, but stopped him from ever hurting any more people. But if you ask me, they should not have gotten involved. The truth is that if they shot the guy and the gun did the "Boroklyn Bounce" and was not recovered, they'd be second guessed by Sharpton, Barron, as well as their own bosses. They'd be wondering if they were going to keep their freedom, their jobs, or their houses. They'd have to bring their kids to a relatives house to keep them safe when Sharpton and the rest of the filth show up at their homes to protest. Then the media would publish the perp's 6th grade graduation photo to prove what a good guy he was before the cops murdered him.

Last night in the 28 precinct (.49 square miles), there were SIX people shot. Something is wrong with the black communties, and the only way to fix them is from within. Instill family values, a drive for education, and a sense of morality, and these problems will go away. Sorry to say, I don't see it EVER happening. They're too entrenched in the "victim" attitude.

And THAT is where the racist attitudes coime from. Not from sterotypes, but from HARD LEANRED EXPERIENCE. Black neighborhoods are not safe places to be, and not because "the Man" won't let them get ahead, but because THE COMMUNITY won't stand up, take responsibility, and make changes. I'm sure if MArtin Luther King was still alive, he'd be so happy to see that everything he fought for has been wasted, and there are more black people in prison than there are in college. Guess Medgar Evers would be happy to know that the bullet he took because he was trying to integrate schools was wasted, since the education that is available to ALL MINORITIES is so often not taken advantage of.
Bangkok Bill

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Jun 24, 2007
 
Diahann Moyler wrote:
Well, Mr. Bangcock Bill. If you read your Thailand news, I see there was a big cocaine bust, rape and a few murders. Those black people just get everywhere. We are over there in Thailand corrupting the people. Look in your own backyard before you go messing with your neighbor.<quoted text>
They were causing so much trouble in Thailand that the Thai's had to change the visa policy to keep them out.The jails here are full of them.Just like in the states.They are sub human!
Bangkok Bill

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Jun 24, 2007
 
Diahann Moyler wrote:
You racists with your KFC fried chicken jokes and watermelon lines. That is so yesterday. YEAH, we love fried chicken and watermelon. I know I do and so do you! And as for lazy and shooting the breeze. We labored for you lazy MFers for so long, you invented the word. So sorry slavery had to end - bet you are!!!!<quoted text>
You state a fact,tell the truth,and you are called a racist by the racists.
Bangkok Bill

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Jun 24, 2007
 
Bangkok Bill wrote:
<quoted text>They were causing so much trouble in Thailand that the Thai's had to change the visa policy to keep them out.The jails here are full of them.Just like in the states.They are sub human!
I forgot to mention that the Thai's call jail the "monkey house".I laugh everytime I hear it,no beds,tv ,you sleep on the concrete floor.If the US had jails like Thailand the crime rate would really drop.10 million in Bangkok and I walk the streets anytime anywhere and NOBODY bothers me.Six shot in Harlem too bad they dion't shoot better.Give them all guns and put the winners in jail!
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#49
Jun 26, 2007
 
Ms. Kay, I to new the victim personally and it breaks my heart to hear these dopes say such vile and heartless things. But everyone has it day and there day is coming. to the family of the victim stay strong and know that you had a loving son who wasnt jobless and sat around on the internet glotting on someone elses death.
Diahann Moyler

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#50
Dec 7, 2007
 
Bangkok Bill wrote:
<quoted text>You state a fact,tell the truth,and you are called a racist by the racists.
I am too powerless to be racist. I am also too intelligent to hate any group, of any kind. It is not in my nature to hate. I do feel sorry for those, like you, who really believe the nonsense that you spew. All of the energy that you expel hating others could be used to GET A LIFE!!!
Diahann Moyler

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Jun 25, 2011
 
Diahann Moyler wrote:
Yes, there was lots of trans fat in that chicken. We try to kill ourselves any way we can. We have such beautiful, stress free lives that it's boring and we need to do things like kill ourselves and each other early. Between the "perceived" racism we claim to suffer from, as this is only a joke and we really are loved and respected by all, and the beautiful schools we attend that educate us so well, we just have nothing else to do. There are also the beautiful people like you who love everyone and would never address a whole group of people based on the actions of few. We love your kind and the responsible journalists who write the stories and include all of the facts of the story BEFORE they print it. We thank you. <quoted text>
This was all said in a sarcastic tone, for those of you who don't get it.
Diahann Moyler

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#53
Jan 16, 2012
 
Diahann Moyler wrote:
You racists with your KFC fried chicken jokes and watermelon lines. That is so yesterday. YEAH, we love fried chicken and watermelon. I know I do and so do you! And as for lazy and shooting the breeze. We labored for you lazy MFers for so long, you invented the word. So sorry slavery had to end - bet you are!!!!<quoted text>
This is Diahann Moyler from New York, NY. These are not my comments!
Frank D

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#54
Jan 17, 2012
 
let the cawps at him....they can conduct an interview
Kim Smiller

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#55
Nov 12, 2012
 
Yeah, yeah, yeah!

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