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N.Y. Fire Chief, Firefighter Charged With Stealing

There are 42 comments on the FireHouse.com story from Feb 8, 2013, titled N.Y. Fire Chief, Firefighter Charged With Stealing. In it, FireHouse.com reports that:

St. Lawrence County sheriff's deputies have charged a Hermon volunteer fire chief and his firefighter brother with stealing copper and other items from town-owned property.

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Since: Jan 13

Hermon, NY

#1 Feb 14, 2013
This is a bunch of BS. The department owned the nuilding and gave it to the town after thw fire department got what they needed for thr new station. How can the town charge when they did not own it yet?
justincase

Star City, AR

#2 Feb 15, 2013
What does the scrap yard have to do with the new fire hall and where did the money go because I'm sure it didn't go to the fire hall.Instead of scrapping fire halls they should start answering ambulance calls oh and I forgot they also are known for stealing copper.
Krista Carrow EMT and FF

De Kalb Junction, NY

#3 Feb 15, 2013
For one we gave the old station to the town not the contents. In our discussions at our Fire meetings we decided what was going to happen to the stuff inside that station due to WE owned it as long as we left the building secure we could take whatever we wanted the stuff that was taken out of the old station was stuff we wanted for our new station. As for anything else that was taken out was for members to do as they please there's no different if I sell the trophies in my lawn sale this summer the money is mine to do as I wish.The Town is concerned that the money did not go to the Fire Department we hell if they are so worried about us having money maybe they should have paid for the old building! If any one would like to know the truth come to our meeting read our minuets they are open to the public! As for justincase your worried about us making squad calls stop on down get an application go take your EMT course and fill in for the rest of us when we are busy working,taking care of our families or in another class to keep up with all the training! Wait I'm sure your one of those people who just could not handle being an EMT instead you sit back and run your mouth about no one answering calls maybe you should be on the Town board!
justincase

Star City, AR

#4 Feb 15, 2013
For 1-I am an EMT
For 2-we are sick of picking up peoples slack
For 3-I to have a full time job
and finally anything we make off the fire hall goes back into the fire hall as it should!!!
Krista Carrow EMT and FF

De Kalb Junction, NY

#5 Feb 15, 2013
Thats great for you but as an EMT you should not have a problem helping another Department out in a time of need. And like I said the stuff they are being charged for is at our new station would you like to come see it? Anything else down there was for the taking the Department did not want money from it if they did they would have sold the station we had a few offers but thought we would be nice a help out the town look what happens when you do nice things. Also if you are from another Department you must be one low SOB you dont talk crap about another Department or its members on a site like this know all you facts first!
justincase

Star City, AR

#6 Feb 15, 2013
DIDO
Wake up Call

Edwards, NY

#7 Feb 15, 2013
What about the scrap that was sold? Is the cash in the new hall?
Krista Carrow EMT and FF

De Kalb Junction, NY

#8 Feb 15, 2013
For one I don't understand why everyone is so worried about the stuff out of the old station the town told us they were tearing it down. You do know that's why we needed a new building because its falling in. We had a deadline to get the rest of the stuff out of the building we gave to the town so that's what we did there were more than just the two men that are being charged there. and way more stuff was taken out of that building that could be sold or benefited the member that took it and since we are owned by the membership we make the decisions of what we do with our property if I get a soda from the station should i bring the five cents back it is the departments money am I stealing? Please come to our fire house you seam very concerned about this incident you can see all the items laying in a truck bay. All of this may have been avoided with proper communication between the Town and us but when you have a person in office that does not do his duties while acting like all is good things get out of hand just like it did.As for the copper it was 26' of copper and there is a 26' piece of copper at the new station. On a side note there Town workers there while the members we taking the stuff from the old station hell they even help with some stuff but only our men are being charged. Sounds personal to me!
Concerned

Edwards, NY

#9 Feb 16, 2013
If the fire department is a tax exempt membership corporation then it is illegal for any member to receive any personal gain from the corporation. If items that belonged to the fire department were removed and sold the the funds should have gone into the department's treasury. If the items removed belonged to the Town then the charges seem proper.

The former members who earned those trophies would roll over in their graves to hear someone talking about selling the trophies and pocketing the money. If the department decided to sell off any assets the money should go to the department and not to an individual member. The fire department operates on tax dollars, donations, fund raisers supported by the public and low interest loans from a government organization. It's too bad taxpayers can't protest these activities by not paying the line item for fire protection on their tax bills. The public may have second thoughts about making donations to this organization in the future.

Since: Jan 13

Hermon, NY

#10 Feb 18, 2013
So you would rather the building be torn down with the tropies in it? Not me. I would rather the members get them. The members do earn them so thats where they should be. I would rather the tropies be sold by the members so the people buying them could enjoy them. I have been there when some have been earned and this is how I feel. And why should the town benefit form it. If they got it and tore it down the stuff would be junk. The members are saving them. No charges should have been done. The town never owned it when anything was done in the old station. The town should use the $18,000 to fix the roads not buying junk buildings anyway. They did not buy it so put the money back in the community.
Red Robin

Star City, AR

#11 Feb 18, 2013
Why is the junk copper going in the new fire hall and the trophies being sold? They should go to the new fire hall.
Concerned

Edwards, NY

#12 Feb 18, 2013
Can't imagine why the tropies weren't moved directly to the new fire hall -that's where they belong. If they haven't been removed from the old building yet it's hard to believe the town wouldn't save them before any demolition took place.

Don't have any idea what the $18,000 is about. The fire department gave the town the building. Where's the cost in that?
Krista Carrow EMT and FF

De Kalb Junction, NY

#13 Feb 20, 2013
To everyone that is so concerned about Hermon Fire and what we do with our stuff until you come out behind your fake names nothing of what you have to say means anything you all are the type of people that want to be heard but are to afraid of pissing off your friends so like I said until you use your real name all your concerns are fake like you!
Ben Dover

Star City, AR

#14 Feb 21, 2013
There is nothing fake about this.You keep telling yourself its okay,but its NOT.So that being said,go back to the begining of all this and read it SLOW so you can understand HOW REAL THIS IS........further more instead of being so concered about names why don't you take action and look for a spot in the NEW fire hall for the trophies to be remembered.
Taxpayer

Jamesville, NY

#15 Feb 21, 2013
What's been happening in the Hermon Fire Dept. is wrong. It doesn't matter who posts what message where - this situation needs to be corrected.
twisted sister

Edwards, NY

#16 Feb 21, 2013
Krista? Didnt you get fired from Woody's for stealing?

Since: Jan 13

Hermon, NY

#17 Feb 24, 2013
IT WAS NIKKI
kamie

De Kalb Junction, NY

#18 Mar 2, 2013
You people are a joke grow up and get a life and as for the town of hermon the building was givin to you as in free you payed nothing for it i think this town is full of blood suckers that like to run their trap and can't back their ass's
KARMAS-A-BITCH

Star City, AR

#19 Mar 2, 2013
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GROW UP R PEOPLE LIKE U and as for the blood suckers we pay taxes unlike u so I think u should shut your TRAP and as for u saying its all a joke we r going to be the ones laughing when this ALL GOES DOWN hahahahah
Krista Carrow EMT and FF

De Kalb Junction, NY

#21 Mar 2, 2013
you all are a joke so worried about where this stuff is talking about tax payers money thinking it was sold just because that's what it says in the paper don't make it true. If any one has any real concerns the Fire Department Meeting is on March 5Th at 7:30pm at the New Fire Station and is Open to the PUBLIC!

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