Agents kill 4 Idaho wolves; more 'control actions' authorized

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Federal Wildlife Services agents have shoot-to-kill orders for up to six more wolves in central Idaho.
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Bob A

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hi my name is troy i have lived in Idaho my whole life and i think that all these wolf groups are a crock of shit if more people put this amount of time and money into provideing medical attention to people that cant afford it or food and a warm place to sleep for the homeless half of which are war vetrans that is why you can sleep at night without worrying about abdulla hakakauilla from knifeing you in your sleep. then the world or at least Idaho would be alot better off As for the wolves they kill to eat and they kill for the fun our elk herds are deplinishing by the day one wolf will kill on average 40 elk a year where are all the activist crying about saveing the elk there arent very many unless you hunt and you have a decent brain that is capable of looking at both sides of the situation do i think all wolves should be taken out of the state of idaho yes will i be in line to get a wolf tag yes why because i dont believe that Idahos best intrest is to let the wolves reproduce with out haveing any kind of management they brought in wolves from canada that arent even the same kind of wolves that were here originally the wolves from canada are thirty to fourty pounds heavier and reproduce twice as fast do your research before you shoot your mouth off thankyou have a nice day
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http://www.saveourelk.com/ To all you wolf lovers!! check ouy slide show.

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That may be true for you for where you live. Up here, there are controls in place which keeps things pretty much as they are. Except for, of course, Californians and wolves. Have yet to find an effective control for either one.
don hughes wrote:
Don't worry wolf haters, this is America, they won't be able to survive the onslaught of development, the blood thirsty hunters, the loss of habitat, the road kill, and thousands of other cuts on the natural world, they're going to be history soon-this is the U.S., where nothing survives, not even God's laws. What a shame!

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Hey Rebekah, which caliber would you prefer,.17 Remington,.204, or .223?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2...
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EXCUSE ME!!!!
you show me an account where a healthy wolf has attacked a human and I'll gladly help you in killing then until then stop flapping your your mouth and talking about things you don't know

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Based on this logic, I guess Rebekah won't mind giving her San Antonio home back to the Native Americans who had it first. That is, if you can find one.

Rebekah, don't blind yourself to points of view that differ from the Sierra Club just because you saw some wolf pups on the Discovery channel and they were cute. Wolves are a real problem for those of us who live here for many different reasons....one being personal safety. Another is our livihoods are at stake, not to mention precious natural resources are being whittled away just because a group of yuppies wants to hear a wolf howl whenever he comes up here on vacation from the city.

Also, don't assume that all hunters are knuckle-draggers. If you bother to check it out, you will find that the overwhelming majority of dollars that go towards managing lands and wildlife come from outdoor sportsmen.

Your facts about wolf habits in this rant are way off, and your credibility suffers. It's not I care that you come off as an idiot....the problem that I have is that someone might read what you wrote and actually believe it.
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hey jerk if you stupid hunters would stop acting like the meat heads you are and crack open a book once in a while you'd know that humans are the ONLY animals that hunt for fun, wolves hunt for food and food alone it's people like you that make me sick, an entire wolf pack can live off of one carcass for days and they don't leave what they don't want to rot like SOME people i could mention
wolves pick off the sick and weak that wouldn't survive another year anyway, trophy hunters are the ones killing the breeding males and causing the herds to shrink, if your so concerned about the survival of the elk why don't you stop hunting them? the "wolves" YOU were talking about run on two legs and hunt with guns, there has never been and never will be a creditable report of wolves slaughtering an entire herd, for one thing how big do you think wolves are? we're not talking about Fenrir here, we're talking about three foot high wolves, it takes an entire pack to bring down one wolf, and there are usually casualties, no wolf has the ability (alone or with a pack) to bring down one healthy DEER buck let alone slaughter a whole herd of elk. letting nature take it's course
is a GOOD thing, other than humans, a predator species has never hunted a prey species to extinction, since I'm assuming your a rancher too allow me to remind you that THEY WERE HERE FIRST MORON, if someone is stupid enough to leave easy prey near a group of animals who don't understand ownership deserves to lose a few.
and wolves aren't competing with humans for hunting, there has to be equal stakes on both sides for there to be a competition, if humans lose prey, they go to the supermarket and buy a steak, if wolves lose prey they DIE, and if you're actually so infinitely STUPID as to believe that any entire race, species, or large group of creatures is inherently evil than i hope you get TRAMPLED by your precious elk.

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Only if there is undeniable proof that the animal was killed by a wolf. Otherwise, the rancher gets nothing. Who conduct the investigation? Government wildlife officials.......many of whom love the wolf and could say that it was coyotes or a mountain lion...anything to save the wolf from getting a bad rap.
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i notice that when you post you ranchers conveniently forget that the government compensates you for losses by wolves

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There is no proof in an opinion.......not even mine.
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you've rekindled my faith in the human race you prove what i've been saying for my last four posts

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#172
Feb 29, 2008
 
ID Residents' single typo is not nearly as apalling as your lack of use of punctuation and capitalization.
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perhaps the reason they let it lay was that they were more afraid of the human intruding on their kill than they were hungry
learn to spell btw

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Feb 29, 2008
 
If you don't fear wolves, Rebekah, then I'll see if I can arrange for you to pet one. I'll even pay for your plane ticket up here, but I can only afford to pay one way. Just remember when he lunges for your throat, just keep telling yourself "Wolves are afraid of humans, wolves are afraid of humans".....and everything will be ok.

And the crazies in the woods aren't what concerns me, it's the ones in "civilized areas". I just left Tex-ass after spending the majority of a 21 year Army career there (minus deployments). I'll chose an Idaho crazy roaming the woods to a Texan any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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anytime only idiots fear wolves when man is at the door
i don't like guns, but no one should camp alone without a knife, think of all the crazies roaming the woods
Brian Dunham

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Mar 4, 2008
 
I wonder how hard it would be to trap some? There would be justice in "relocating" a few to NY's Central Park, Seattle, or most any other large, left-leaning urban/suburban area. Best of all, no elk to be slaughtered in those places. And it would get wolves and wolf lovers together.
Rebekah

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Mar 25, 2008
 
Bill 6007 wrote:
If you don't fear wolves, Rebekah, then I'll see if I can arrange for you to pet one. I'll even pay for your plane ticket up here, but I can only afford to pay one way. Just remember when he lunges for your throat, just keep telling yourself "Wolves are afraid of humans, wolves are afraid of humans".....and everything will be ok.
And the crazies in the woods aren't what concerns me, it's the ones in "civilized areas". I just left Tex-ass after spending the majority of a 21 year Army career there (minus deployments). I'll chose an Idaho crazy roaming the woods to a Texan any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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wow, i was feeling bad for double posting, but i think you broke my record

i think I'll reply to your posts in reverse order, first off, i realize that for some reason many non-Texans dislike Texas, it must be the hell-hole Texas becomes in summer, because most of the ass-wipes in the country are in DC and New York, and as far as i know, most people in Texas are fairly decent, even A&M people. Not of course that i'm insinuating that all people in the above mentioned places are jerks, just most of the ones I've met. i hope you're not ALL like that though, as I hope to move out of this hell with humidity into the nice snowy north once I've got my degree.

i'm also not one of those idiots that think wild animals are safe, i've seen pictures of attacks by wild animals, i've seen worse ones of attacks from pets, i've got three scars along my shoulders from my cats, and another on my face, only a complete moron, ie my classmates, would think petting a wild wolf is a good idea

gtg i'll continue my rant later
Rebekah

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Mar 25, 2008
 
Bill 6007 wrote:
ID Residents' single typo is not nearly as apalling as your lack of use of punctuation and capitalization.
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this is likely the only post I'll apologize for, ID resident, i'm sorry, i went back over my previos post and found no grammatical errors, however, i still think you are closed minded
Rebekah

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Mar 25, 2008
 
hit the damn post button too soon, my "appalling" use of caps is because i don't know how else to put emphasis on words when this stupid forum has neither bold or italics i don't use proper punctuation because this is a forum, not a term paper and in reference to your last post, i have to agree with you about "civilized" areas, all humans are insane, some are just more insane than others
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There is no proof in an opinion.......not even mine.
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that was not your opinion, and i wasn't talking about the opinion in that post
this is what i was talking about
frank wrote:
Wolves seek out the slow, elderly and weak elk; strengthening the elk gene pool like they have for centuries. Just because we are top of the food chain doesn't mean we are competing with wolves for food. Man's continuous and persistent impact on hunting bulls that respond to elk calls have weeded out the bugling urge in elk today. This has been going on before 1995 when there were no wolves to blame it on.
and don't worry, your posts alone were plenty to crush my reformed faith in the human race but i'm on wajas.com now, the people there are nice. maybe they'll save my opinion of humans
Rebekah

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Mar 25, 2008
 
Bill 6007 wrote:
Only if there is undeniable proof that the animal was killed by a wolf. Otherwise, the rancher gets nothing. Who conducts the investigation? Government wildlife officials.......many of whom love the wolf and could say that it was coyotes or a mountain lion...anything to save the wolf from getting a bad rap.
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well then, i'm sorry, i didn't know that. but some are repaid. i know some people would suggest ranchers stop raising their live stock but i'm against ALL such changes as i know that some ranchers have the land that their family has worked for years. however just because a technique is old doesn't mean that it's not good, centuries ago people actually stayed with their herds, protecting them from wolves, as well as thieves.
makes you think doesn't it?
Rebekah

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Bill 6007 wrote:
Based on this logic, I guess Rebekah won't mind giving her San Antonio home back to the Native Americans who had it first. That is, if you can find one.
Rebekah, don't blind yourself to points of view that differ from the Sierra Club just because you saw some wolf pups on the Discovery channel and they were cute. Wolves are a real problem for those of us who live here for many different reasons....one being personal safety. Another is our livihoods are at stake, not to mention precious natural resources are being whittled away just because a group of yuppies wants to hear a wolf howl whenever he comes up here on vacation from the city.
Also, don't assume that all hunters are knuckle-draggers. If you bother to check it out, you will find that the overwhelming majority of dollars that go towards managing lands and wildlife come from outdoor sportsmen.
Your facts about wolf habits in this rant are way off, and your credibility suffers. It's not I care that you come off as an idiot....the problem that I have is that someone might read what you wrote and actually believe it.
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i would but it's not my house to give, i'm a student, i own very little other than my cats' toys and their food and my own.

I never said that all hunters were knuckle-draggers i believe i said that many of my uncles and cousins are hunters, and if i hadn't i am now. many of my cousins ARE knuckle-draggers who wouldn't crack a book if they didn't have to, many of those are actually very intelligent, it's how you USE it that counts.

wolves are not cute, puppies are, but so are human babies, doesn't mean i like them, supporting stuff because it's cute is for preps and idiots i love wolves for what they are, for what they're not and for what they could be

i an not a yuppie, i believe i'm generation Y, you however are a gringo, a label that fortunately spans many generations
Also, please tell me what facts i used were wrong, and do cite a respectable, believable, source i can check. Like a book, you know what they are right? a thing with lots of pieces of paper? i assume you know how to use one.
Rebekah

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Mar 25, 2008
 
Bill 6007 wrote:
Hey Rebekah, which caliber would you prefer,.17 Remington,.204, or .223?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2...
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a wolf that relies on humans to live is not healthy, it hardly a wolf might as well be a coyote
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Mar 25, 2008
 
pushed the damn button too soon again,
i've said that i don't like guns, guns are messy and can be traced, knives are much more fun.

now to end my mini rant, i'd like to thank outdoorsman, minihaha, BobA(big time), ID resident, sharon, Montana Rancher, TheLaughingMule, Big Joe, N8IV ID, NetFan, and all the others who, pissed me off long enough to type all this plus my paper, you helped make my persuasive animal rights paper for English one of my best and longest rants yet,
Bill 6007, thank you for saving the lives of two children at my school, i had the choice of ranting on here, or ruining my favorite santoku knife on two anti-otaku freshmen at my school.

ps, i have no illusions of what would happen if i tried to pet a wild wolf, any creature would go for your throat if you tried that on them, hell, I would go for your throat if you tried that on ME
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Mar 25, 2008
 
PPS. i have no idea why it says Huston, i hate Huston, i live in San Antonio
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Mar 25, 2008
 
BobA wrote:
http://www.saveourelk.com/ To all you wolf lovers!! check our slide show.
i just watched the slides, i believe i covered the non-existent non-native factor that was harped on about , a few pages ago,so I'll let that lie. i would like to point out that for a rare occurrence, there were several well eaten carcasses shown,
i would like to say that even 5-point bucks can be diseased, of infested with parasites. for the birth-kills, i say that wolves are opportunists, and that was a cheap shot at peoples emotions.
by calling uneaten carcasses "sport killing", you prove yourself to be the most hypocritical group I've ever had contact with, the time when humans needed to hunt is long past. you forget that a good sized elk can feed a pack for several days, whats left can be picked clean by scavengers, if the carcass was left by even the birds, something was wrong about it, they just figured it out before you, how many of those "sport kills" were examined for disease rather than as a tool for anti-wolf propaganda.
you've called wolves evil, and accused them of exterminating a species. they are not evil unless they think in which case they are people but when humans ask for animal rights, you say they are dogs, dumb animals. you can't have both, so choose, are wolves animals and therefore thoughtless, of are they thinking people, deserving of equal rights?

one last thing, have you ever read "wolf at the door" by Barbara Corcoran? it's fiction and has a conservationist message(not really your thing i believe), but it's a perfect example of what your sort of propaganda can do, think before you speak please. people are stupid
as this board is wearing on me emotionally i probably won't poast again,

if you've read through this to the end i thank you even if you don't agree with me. many of the views on this forum sadden me, but life is war so think on, but be wiser than i have with your words

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