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concerned parent

Somerset, KY

#1 Aug 18, 2010
this my childs first year, and his equipment is so bad. theres tape on it missing screws, facemask lose, holes in pants. is this what we paid $60 dollars for? i'm worried about his safety, and i don't have money to buy his own. the county should provide better equipment. i thought that the equipment is suppose to be refurbished so many years. this is scarey. the league won't replace it. what should i do? i'm not tring to complain but this is my child
also concerned

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Aug 18, 2010
My son is on foe the second year!!!! Don' bother to try to get any answers from Beth Ralston--Maybe our interim county judge (doubt it) apparently these people who claim to be in charge think all these parents are morons. Just take a look at how many kids are on all these teams of all ages and make an educated guess as to the money we parents are sinking into LINCON CO. PARKS & REC. Who knows where all that money is going? Somebody does..
Vanished

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Aug 18, 2010
I would truly like a good honest discussion on Lincoln Parks & Rec. but everytime one is started, suddenly, the whole discussion is deleted!!!hmmmmmh funny how that happens!!!!!!!
I know

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Aug 18, 2010
Yeah, I've noticed that. It just goes to show, if you have managed to lie, cheat and steal your way to "important positions" in this county you then have the privilege of answering to no one. You can also use your position to be evasive, rude, unprofessional, and arrogant. Eventually, though it all comes tumbling down on top of you..Look at Bucky!! OUR park manager should be elected since our tax dollars pay that big salary..
ABC

Lexington, KY

#5 Aug 18, 2010
A lose facemask is easily fixed with a simple screwdriver. Missing screws? From what? Holes in pants? When I played little league we had to buy our own pants. Holes won't affect safety at all when it comes to the pants. You should have seen our practice pants even in high school, and those were new every year or two and they get ripped to shreds.

Other than missing screws, which I can't even think of where necessary screws would have been, it sounds like you might just need a screwdriver.$60 is certainly not enough to buy brand new equipment each year and its really not needed. They make the gear knowing that kids will be in it so its light to start with to keep the cost down. Kids don't need it huge and massive because they don't have the same force behind their hits.

I think you're fine. I'd maybe ask about screws but I'm not sure what you're talking about on that one.
concerned parent

Somerset, KY

#6 Aug 18, 2010
ABC wrote:
A lose facemask is easily fixed with a simple screwdriver. Missing screws? From what? Holes in pants? When I played little league we had to buy our own pants. Holes won't affect safety at all when it comes to the pants. You should have seen our practice pants even in high school, and those were new every year or two and they get ripped to shreds.
Other than missing screws, which I can't even think of where necessary screws would have been, it sounds like you might just need a screwdriver.$60 is certainly not enough to buy brand new equipment each year and its really not needed. They make the gear knowing that kids will be in it so its light to start with to keep the cost down. Kids don't need it huge and massive because they don't have the same force behind their hits.
I think you're fine. I'd maybe ask about screws but I'm not sure what you're talking about on that one.
theres two missing in the face mask, and no screws buttons for a chin strap, sounds like you work for the county. its funny how every county around use has good equipment. what happened to pride in how your players look.
ABC

Lexington, KY

#7 Aug 18, 2010
concerned parent wrote:
<quoted text> theres two missing in the face mask, and no screws buttons for a chin strap, sounds like you work for the county. its funny how every county around use has good equipment. what happened to pride in how your players look.
Any you think I work for the county because...? Nope, sorry.

I did play football for something like 8 or 9 years though so I've very familiar with football equipment. There is nothing quite like running sprints up and down the hill by the field house at the HS while wearing 50 lbs of gear in the blazing sun...

Some screws in the face-mask may be optional depending on the exact style of mask they're using. If it is loose and moving though you will need a screw driver. I'd imagine they would be able to give you the screws if you don't have a couple spare yourself.

Most "counties" have better gear because it isn't the "counties" that run the programs. Instead they allow private groups to run them. The benefit is they often play other counties and aren't stuck against local teams, but the downside is they tend to cost more.
Know it all

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Aug 18, 2010
I have noticed that abc comments on almost anything of interest. Now we know this is a male that knows very little about a lot of things. He may not work for the parks but i guarantee that he is related to somebody that does. It is easy to see that much money is going in with very little result. As a grandfather of several kids involved with rec league sports I am sad to say that the people in charge who could instill some pride back into Lincoln county sports choose not to care..As long as they get their big salaries they are content..same goes for high school sports.. They have all theses great kids coming out of the middle school that win across the board in every sport and get to the high school and they can't
get much of any team sport together. abc--- is your name Steve????
concerned parent

Somerset, KY

#9 Aug 19, 2010
i agree with you. the attitude toward us parents at the equipment stand was unreal. i saw kids cring because they had been running backs for years and good ones i heard, that can't run the ball anymore. there was one kid on the lincoln bkue b league i believe that hit the weights since jan. gained 12 lbs of muscle and it knocked him out because of the new weight limit. plus they said he went to the nfl football camp to get better all for nothing they said. you see alot of these kids are muscle and not fat and this weight limit is a big mistake. theres know difference in a 110 lb being tackled by a 150 or a 150 lb being tackled by a 110 lb. And abc said they dont hit? does anyone remeber the girl from b league and the black boy from white team and the coaches son on blue b league. these three kids laid vicious hits all year and hurt alot of kids. but they were fundmental hits, not cheap shots. and the blue A league team were laying monster hits. so dont give me that crap about weak hits abc. my son didn't play last year he was flag but we went to the games. and its embarrsing to play boyle county teams because they have pride in how they looked. i remeber a blue team last year that were one of the best looking teams out there, they took pride in how they looked. and to start talking about high school, i just shake my head inshame.
Any Number

London, KY

#10 Aug 19, 2010
How much do football uniforms cost?

Depends on what kind of football uniform your purchasing. I will assume we're talking American Football. A youth uniform could cost $30 (set) while an adult (brand name) uniform could cost over $100 each.

How much do football helmets cost?

A NFL football helmet cost a little bit more than $250 dollars. But a regular football helmet is around $75.
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Taking those numbers, it would cost a little over $175 for each person. Now, also take into effect the cost of the school bus gas (do parents take the students? I know when I played, they had to), what it cost to pay the bus driver (do they get paid for that?), coaches (I think they might be volunteer though, so that may be scratched off too), training equipment and I'm sure a bunch of other things which I haven't thought of. I'm sure they're trying their best but with $60 a person, lets be realistic, they can't do a huge amount.

While I agree, if it's clearly damaged and could lead to injury, it should be replaced. But is this the equipment they use just during training or for the actual games? The loose facemask is an easy fix either way. The tape also isn't a big deal if it's working properly. The holey pants should be fixed if it's not just the equipment they use during training.
So so sad

Danville, KY

#11 Aug 19, 2010
concerned parent wrote:
i agree with you. the attitude toward us parents at the equipment stand was unreal. i saw kids cring because they had been running backs for years and good ones i heard, that can't run the ball anymore. there was one kid on the lincoln bkue b league i believe that hit the weights since jan. gained 12 lbs of muscle and it knocked him out because of the new weight limit. plus they said he went to the nfl football camp to get better all for nothing they said. you see alot of these kids are muscle and not fat and this weight limit is a big mistake. theres know difference in a 110 lb being tackled by a 150 or a 150 lb being tackled by a 110 lb. And abc said they dont hit? does anyone remeber the girl from b league and the black boy from white team and the coaches son on blue b league. these three kids laid vicious hits all year and hurt alot of kids. but they were fundmental hits, not cheap shots. and the blue A league team were laying monster hits. so dont give me that crap about weak hits abc. my son didn't play last year he was flag but we went to the games. and its embarrsing to play boyle county teams because they have pride in how they looked. i remeber a blue team last year that were one of the best looking teams out there, they took pride in how they looked. and to start talking about high school, i just shake my head inshame.
Why did the parents waste their time and money sending a little league kid ti NFL camp? So for other words this parent thought that since their kid paid mega money to get advanced he was better and deserved better treatment, haha! Think again. my son has played his ass off in little league and really good might I add and it has all came from the terrific little league coaches so if the weight limit had got him, it was no big deal and my son has been a running back since 3rd grade, and also might i add he barely missed the weight limit. But I feel like the weight limit is more of a health issue for that child not a hitting issue. But has anyone taken time to even ask who made this rule or would you all just rather attack steve, beth or whoever. There has to be rules regardless who gets pissed about it.
concerned parent

Somerset, KY

#12 Aug 19, 2010
So so sad wrote:
<quoted text>Why did the parents waste their time and money sending a little league kid ti NFL camp? So for other words this parent thought that since their kid paid mega money to get advanced he was better and deserved better treatment, haha! Think again. my son has played his ass off in little league and really good might I add and it has all came from the terrific little league coaches so if the weight limit had got him, it was no big deal and my son has been a running back since 3rd grade, and also might i add he barely missed the weight limit. But I feel like the weight limit is more of a health issue for that child not a hitting issue. But has anyone taken time to even ask who made this rule or would you all just rather attack steve, beth or whoever. There has to be rules regardless who gets pissed about it.
its not that the parent thanks his kids better, he done something speacil for his child whats wrong with that? hell must parents could careless about there kids in this county. And i thank that its educational, and gives the child something to do. theres nothing wrong with a child wanting to be the best he can be. i know some parents that paid more to send there kids to a camp just to get rid of them for a week. You can't knock a parent for loving his children and tring to help them. and we shouldn't really be talking about this because anyone in the league knows who the child is. but i do agree that there is safety in the weight limit but 120 to 130 would of been alittle better. good luck to you and your kid this year
concerned parent

Somerset, KY

#13 Aug 19, 2010
Any Number wrote:
How much do football uniforms cost?
Depends on what kind of football uniform your purchasing. I will assume we're talking American Football. A youth uniform could cost $30 (set) while an adult (brand name) uniform could cost over $100 each.
How much do football helmets cost?
A NFL football helmet cost a little bit more than $250 dollars. But a regular football helmet is around $75.
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Taking those numbers, it would cost a little over $175 for each person. Now, also take into effect the cost of the school bus gas (do parents take the students? I know when I played, they had to), what it cost to pay the bus driver (do they get paid for that?), coaches (I think they might be volunteer though, so that may be scratched off too), training equipment and I'm sure a bunch of other things which I haven't thought of. I'm sure they're trying their best but with $60 a person, lets be realistic, they can't do a huge amount.
While I agree, if it's clearly damaged and could lead to injury, it should be replaced. But is this the equipment they use just during training or for the actual games? The loose facemask is an easy fix either way. The tape also isn't a big deal if it's working properly. The holey pants should be fixed if it's not just the equipment they use during training.
well we found out yesterday that most of the equipment is donaated, and its game and practice equipment and the parents do drive to the games. so that should help your numbers
Xyz

United States

#14 Aug 19, 2010
What the he'll is a b league player doing hitting the weights at such an early age in life. No one would recommend weight lifting to kids at this age . And as far as weight limit it's not a Lincoln co rule they actually have a board that includes reps from all counties in this league Lincoln , Boyle , mercer, garrard , and Danville . It's about safety of overall kids cause if u look at size and weights of majority of these kids in b league they are less than 80 Lbs with several on the 60 and 70 . Out of about 75 kids that signed up I would say only 15 are above 110 lbs .
Any Number

London, KY

#15 Aug 19, 2010
Is there any fee for a school to like... play the other teams or something? Or to have a league? I'm really trying to think of anything logical that the money could be going to.
peaceout

Danville, KY

#16 Aug 19, 2010
Ok so who mows the fields, who pays players insurance, who buys the gas to mow the fields, who pays the light bill, who pays the water bill, who pays for up keep on the equipment(mowing), who buys the marking paint, who pays for the paper the scheduals are printed on, who pays the refs, who pays the score board keeper,who buys the bleachers,
have any idea where the money might go to, you fools get a real look on life
ABC OR XYZ

Indianapolis, IN

#17 Aug 19, 2010
I thin we are talking to JB bethys brother in law or SR bethys uncle. Whoever abc and xyz is they surely know alot about about LINCOLN PARKS AND REC.. God knows BETH doesn't!!! SPEAK UP QUICKLY AND LOUDLY LINCOLN PARENTS AND TAXPAYERS---THIS THREAD WILL BE DELETED AS SOON AS ANY FAMILY MEMBERS SEE IT!!!!
ABC

Lexington, KY

#18 Aug 20, 2010
Know it all wrote:
I have noticed that abc comments on almost anything of interest. Now we know this is a male that knows very little about a lot of things. He may not work for the parks but i guarantee that he is related to somebody that does. It is easy to see that much money is going in with very little result. As a grandfather of several kids involved with rec league sports I am sad to say that the people in charge who could instill some pride back into Lincoln county sports choose not to care..As long as they get their big salaries they are content..same goes for high school sports.. They have all theses great kids coming out of the middle school that win across the board in every sport and get to the high school and they can't
get much of any team sport together. abc--- is your name Steve????
No its not Steve, and no I have no connection to the park. As mentioned in all your other attacks in other threads, I comment (as everyone else does) on matters that interest me and that I have some knowledge on. I played football little league through high school and nearly had 2 options in college but neither offered my major.

Any Number spelled it out for everyone. I was to lazy to look up the prices but that stuff isn't cheap. Even if the initial batch was donated it would take a lot to replace it all. Regardless of what "know it all" says I don't work for them but you've got to imagine there are lots of other cost involved that eat up the majority of those joining fees and whats left over is put into upgrading where they can (apparently they need screws for example, lol).
my child

Somerset, KY

#19 Aug 20, 2010
last night at practice a parent came to me and told my child had been talked about on here, and i have never been on topix or knew what it was. Keep my child out of this crap. Yes my son lifts weights, and it was approved and recommended by his doctor. dr. sims at miller, bates and sims clinic, as long as he use proper techinque. Sorry if my child wants to be healthy and be the best he can, i do not force him, he wanted to try it so i let him. And as far as the OD nfl clinic, us i sent my to sons because they deserved it. they meet alot of kids and had alot of fun it was a great exsperience for them. I know there not superstars, but in my heart they are. so i spend my money on my kids, unlike others who are out buying drugs and alcohal. mega money you say, only 1300 same as about anycamp for 2 kids. they make straight A's do there chores so to me they earned it. Its know secret who i am, and i don't care. you can bash me all you want but keep the kids out of it. As far as beth, shes got a hard job, leave her alone shes ok in my book, and the board trys to make the right call. we all make bad calls there human like us. Yes i bought all my kids equipment, but it was for the camp they had to have it. the league equipment is fine. i also looked around and saw people bashing yaden, hes a great coach, and a good person. we get to keep our returners whats wrong with that. Yes i requested yaden but my kids stayed on the same team, and we still have a great coach. but please leave my child out of it and if you have a problem with him lifting call his doctor. good luck to all
2 cents

Danville, KY

#20 Aug 20, 2010
I have no children. Just an interest in sports. I have to say that ABC seems reasonable to me...alot of what he says is just common sense. As far as where the money goes...we had alot of people questioning that at our small church until we showed them just a monthly electric bill...I would imagine that operational cost are nothing to sneeze at.

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