Adults weigh in on party

Adults weigh in on party

There are 69 comments on the North Adams Transcript story from Jul 9, 2009, titled Adults weigh in on party. In it, North Adams Transcript reports that:

The owners of the land used for a recent graduation party that was broken up by the Vermont State Police have taken issue with the charge that they were providing alcohol to minors.

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sol

United States

#1 Jul 9, 2009
I do believe this person, I hope all works out for you. The Transcript does like to sensationalize fact to sell papers. Yesterdays paper was what 4 pages. I will not longer buy it. They need to get their facts straight before printing. I am sure you are right about the 1 state cop who was pissed because he did not get the big bust that he wanted.
whatever

Easthampton, MA

#2 Jul 9, 2009
There are always two sides to a story. Better follow up next time would be helpful Glen.
Duff Man

Northampton, MA

#3 Jul 9, 2009
The truth finally comes out but now these innocent people will have to fork out money to a lawyer and that is just plain wrong. The cops over reacted and the Clarksburg cop has no business what so ever in Vermont. I still say the jerk that called the cops is looking for trouble.
Truthsayer

Gansevoort, NY

#4 Jul 9, 2009
As parents, we do our best to do what's right by our teens. This is a classic case of a large, alcohol-free party that was spoiled by some of the kids, who want to be "cool". There's NOTHING these poor adults could do, but taking the keys was 100% spot on.

The cops over-reacted as usual. The words that best describe them can't be written here. They're jerks. Few are pros. Most were the very thugs in high school they now try to control.

The Transcript is best bought for lining bird cages and training puppies.
Duff Man

Northampton, MA

#5 Jul 9, 2009
Truthsayer wrote:
As parents, we do our best to do what's right by our teens. This is a classic case of a large, alcohol-free party that was spoiled by some of the kids, who want to be "cool". There's NOTHING these poor adults could do, but taking the keys was 100% spot on.
The cops over-reacted as usual. The words that best describe them can't be written here. They're jerks. Few are pros. Most were the very thugs in high school they now try to control.
The Transcript is best bought for lining bird cages and training puppies.

Quite true on the cops. Several cops I know of were total punks as teenagers and never think of that when dealing with kids. That is the difference between a good cop and there are many and the jerks in Stamford and Clarksville.
anon

Clockville, NY

#6 Jul 9, 2009
A reasonable prosecutor will quietly drop all of this nonsense before it becomes an embarrassment.

What I want to know is how could the police require a breathalizer? They can ask, but they can't demand. That pesky 5th amendment thingy.
Duff Man

Northampton, MA

#7 Jul 9, 2009
anon wrote:
A reasonable prosecutor will quietly drop all of this nonsense before it becomes an embarrassment.
What I want to know is how could the police require a breathalizer? They can ask, but they can't demand. That pesky 5th amendment thingy.
How about these Nazi cops useing a dog? A drug dog no doubt.Why don't they take the dog to any federal or state houseing project and nail the parasites who live there are are known drug users?
Two sides

Easthampton, MA

#8 Jul 9, 2009
Those two sides are usually the tales told by the police and the perpetrators. Usually it's exceedingly difficult for a newspaper to get the latters''side' of the story because they're smart enough to let their lawyers do the talking (and the lawyers say nothing until it goes to court).

As for the whining that these parents 'did all they could'... What they're supposed to do is, if they see a crime being committed, report it. Better yet what they're supposed to do is not create an atmosphere where a crime can be committed in the first place. If it's so damn difficult to control the big party, here's an idea: Don't host it.

OK, feel free to fire away about how 'insensitive' I'm being. If I bother to come back to this thread, it will be amusing how many more apologists weigh in.
BillyBob

United States

#9 Jul 9, 2009
Two sides wrote:
Those two sides are usually the tales told by the police and the perpetrators. Usually it's exceedingly difficult for a newspaper to get the latters''side' of the story because they're smart enough to let their lawyers do the talking (and the lawyers say nothing until it goes to court).
As for the whining that these parents 'did all they could'... What they're supposed to do is, if they see a crime being committed, report it. Better yet what they're supposed to do is not create an atmosphere where a crime can be committed in the first place. If it's so damn difficult to control the big party, here's an idea: Don't host it.
OK, feel free to fire away about how 'insensitive' I'm being. If I bother to come back to this thread, it will be amusing how many more apologists weigh in.
I know for a fact it was going to be a drinking party weeks before it was thrown. The mother was going to buy 2 kegs for the party but decided to have it be a BYOB party and she was going to collect car keys so they wouldn't leave. She was warned by several people not to do it and did it any way. Now she's covering up.
Duff Man

Northampton, MA

#10 Jul 9, 2009
BillyBob wrote:
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I know for a fact it was going to be a drinking party weeks before it was thrown. The mother was going to buy 2 kegs for the party but decided to have it be a BYOB party and she was going to collect car keys so they wouldn't leave. She was warned by several people not to do it and did it any way. Now she's covering up.
You are a jerk and an idiot.Why don't you and your cousin/girlfriend get a G.E.D. and then get a J.O.B.? You don't know what you are lieing about.LOSER !
Irony

Easthampton, MA

#11 Jul 9, 2009
Duff Man wrote:
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You are a jerk and an idiot.Why don't you and your cousin/girlfriend get a G.E.D. and then get a J.O.B.? You don't know what you are lieing about.LOSER !
When he was studying for that GED, would they at some point teach him how to spell the word 'lying'?:-)

Since: Feb 09

Clifton Park, NY

#12 Jul 9, 2009
The law is the law, you break it, you pay. What if one of these teens left the party stoned, got in their car and killed someone. Would you still say kids will be kids so leave them alone? How about the adults that provided the beer. They are just as responsible for the death as the driver. The kids may give up their keys but most will have spares. So much for turning in the car keys.
well well

Schenectady, NY

#13 Jul 9, 2009
I just think if this were MY parents, I would feel so bad for them. All that happened was a graduation party, then some people were drinking, so the parents took away the keys. Like she said, was she supposed to let them drive??? I know cops are here to "protect and serve," but in these small towns, they get off on stuff like this, and it is such a shame. When you come from a city and they have REAL issues to worry about, stuff like this isn't even news....
Fools

Boston, MA

#14 Jul 9, 2009
So just because the mom says it wasn't big party and only twelve beers were confiscated some immediately believe her. Wow you must have believed OJ too...How about Michael Jackson? wait until the police report is provided and you find the truth out...then will you please say that mom was lying. Your ignorance is why crime is on the rise...regradless of at what level, very minor infractions or serious felonies. Without Probable cause the police can't do anything...wait until the real facts come out...Glenn D please request copy of the police report and report exactly what happened to enlighten and educate these people who are ignorant.
ebony

United States

#15 Jul 9, 2009
I AGREE !!!
More than 1 story

Allston, MA

#16 Jul 9, 2009
All-in-all, it was a good lesson for the kids because they have several years before it will be legal to drink. You got to admit, it will be a party to remember.

It would be interesting to learn the facts, instead of the sensationalism, to see how much of this was blown out of proportion on both sides.

By the way BillyBob, you heard about a keg party for minors and didn't pipe up until after it hit the papers? Amazing.
my side

Boston, MA

#17 Jul 9, 2009
Giving a breathalyzer to the adults who were not driving seems illegal to me. The thread shows that some are inclined to believe the cops story- I think they make the bust and leave the legalities to the lawyers. Vermont State Police are going to get sued if they keep overstepping as in the case of the officer who was going to arrest the woman for stating her side.
Vermont laws

Boston, MA

#18 Jul 9, 2009
Vermont has very tough and stringent laws when it comes to underage drinking even if you are not driving. A breathalyzer is permissable if reasonible suspicion is formed by the smell of alcohol on the persons breath and they are under 21. No consent needed state law says you must take a breathalyzer.

Stating her side? Do you really think a trooper is just going to say I am sorry ma'am I don't agree with you so you will be arrested now. Do you know Bonnie? I am sure there are many things she is leaving out that occured during her explanation of her side. I am sure the trooper said that he was going to arrest her for her probably out of control actions that were interfering with what was going on. Come on do you really think that happended? And if that part of the story is incorreect than her whole explanation is flawed and not true.

Look beyond what she says it does not fit...Plus eight more troopers arrive after two are there...ask yourself when have you ever seen ten Vermont troopers together at one time. They don't have that many at the Vermont State Fair. In Stamford they almost never see one and even for major accidents they almost don't get there until the car is on the wrecker and being towed away. Requesting the back up of eight other troopers and Clarksburg PD it must have been one out of control party. So lets get this straight it took 10 troopers and Clarksburg PD to get 12 beers out of a trunk. Does not seem correct that for such a minor thing they would call in troopers that probably would have had to drive an hour to get there and request back up from another state. Wow some of you may think this is nothing but I think there is more in than meets the eye than just a simple beer party with teenagers and ONLY a twelve pack of beer. You be the judge...oh wait some of you already have been and have found mom not-guilty because she said so.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#19 Jul 9, 2009
Can anyone vouch for the integrity and reputation of the landowners? How about their characters? My guess is that they left A LOT out of their side of the story. Also, from what I understand, local kids on Facebook were talking about a kegger at this home in the days leading up to it.
poor parenting

Pittsfield, MA

#20 Jul 9, 2009
bonnie, you're digging yourself a deep hole here. i realize it's difficult for you to refrain from running your mouth but please try. in addition to hosting a party where underage drinking took place, you are guilty on a few non-criminal counts: being a "friend" to your daughter as oppossed to a "parent" and and being disingenuous with certain facets of your version of the events of that evening.

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