Teen alleges discrimination by Abercr...

Teen alleges discrimination by Abercrombie & Fitch

There are 219 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 18, 2009, titled Teen alleges discrimination by Abercrombie & Fitch. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

A Muslim teenager claims in a federal lawsuit that she was denied a job at an Abercrombie & Fitch clothing store at a Tulsa mall because she wore a head scarf.

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Golf Guy

United States

#113 Sep 24, 2009
Join the White Supremacy and let's take back the United States from Non-Whites.

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Since: Jul 09

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#114 Sep 24, 2009
Tank Murdoch wrote:
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Most employers especially A & F do not want employees wearing some nest or hat on top of their head during work hours.
Is that hard to figure out????
Not hard to figure out at all--but if what they want is discriminatory they don't get to do it.

Since: Jul 08

Portland

#115 Sep 24, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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Not hard to figure out at all--but if what they want is discriminatory they don't get to do it.
not hiring someone because they wont adhere to the dress code is not discriminatory, the whole point of a dress code is to sell an image

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#116 Sep 24, 2009
Chris1982 wrote:
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not hiring someone because they wont adhere to the dress code is not discriminatory, the whole point of a dress code is to sell an image
sure, that's the point of a dress code. but what an employer can impose as a dress code is limited by Title VII and other laws.

In your view, could A&F make wearing a hijab mandatory, if that was the image the company wanted to sell?
RB RN

Desert Hot Springs, CA

#117 Sep 24, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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sure, that's the point of a dress code. but what an employer can impose as a dress code is limited by Title VII and other laws.
In your view, could A&F make wearing a hijab mandatory, if that was the image the company wanted to sell?
That's what this girl and the Muslim community want to do. They are trying to undermine this Country with Islamic propaganda in the guise of discrimination. Burka go home. No place here for that kind of oppression.
Commonsense Man

Minneapolis, MN

#118 Sep 24, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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However, there's nothing unlawful about corporations hiring anorexic models, or making billions off of chinese workers that they pay $.02/hour. But it is unlawful to refuse to hire her because she wears a hijab, which would not interfere in the slightest with her ability to do the job, blah, blah, blah........
You're not doing to well on this thread Walt, give it up. Go back to daily kos where you'll be preaching to the faithful, doesn't work here, too much common sense.

Since: Jul 08

Portland

#119 Sep 25, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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sure, that's the point of a dress code. but what an employer can impose as a dress code is limited by Title VII and other laws.
In your view, could A&F make wearing a hijab mandatory, if that was the image the company wanted to sell?
they could make a head scarf mandatory, maybe not a religious one but if thats what they want to do they are within their rights

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Since: Sep 09

Mpls

#120 Sep 25, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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Not hard to figure out at all--but if what they want is discriminatory they don't get to do it.
congrats for havin a fart for a brain.

A&F sets the rules and the employees can decide based upon that if they want to work there. Freedom for both parties.
Richard

Irvine, CA

#121 Sep 25, 2009
Tank Murdoch wrote:
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congrats for havin a fart for a brain.
A&F sets the rules and the employees can decide based upon that if they want to work there. Freedom for both parties.
I'm sorry Tank. You're not considering the unwritten law in the U.S.A. That is, whenever the Poor, the downtrodden, the dead-broke, the uneducated step ashore we, the citizens of this Great Country, must pay their way, listen to their crap, watch their flag being waved on our soil, take seriously their mumbo jumbo religion and in general kiss their behinds.

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#122 Sep 25, 2009
Commonsense Man wrote:
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You're not doing to well on this thread Walt, give it up. Go back to daily kos where you'll be preaching to the faithful, doesn't work here, too much common sense.
I'm doing just fine, its the rest of y'all I'm worried about. See, I actually listen to and think about things said by people I don't agree with--you might try it sometime.

What fascinates me about this and the other threads on this topic is how many people will post their opinion despite knowing nothing about the facts of the case or the law on which it is based. It's a free country, and no one has to base their opinions on anthing rational, but I wonder why people do it.

I also wonder why people leap to the defense of a corporation that they (probably) own no stock in and that sells no products made in the USA. Americans used to stand up to tyranny, but (at least on this site) the grovel at the feet of privatised dictatorships. What a pathetic bunch of spineless wusses.

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Since: Sep 09

Mpls

#123 Sep 25, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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corporation that they (probably) own no stock in and that sells no products made in the USA.

Americans used to stand up to tyranny, but (at least on this site) the grovel at the feet of privatised dictatorships. What a pathetic bunch of spineless wusses.
Corporations provide jobs, prosperity and 401K not to mention our quality standard of life.

There is no tyranny, if you don't like A & F simply work elsewhere or don't shop their.

Good luck flippin burgers at MacDonalds with your unskilled labor.
Joe

United States

#124 Sep 25, 2009
Man you can sue for anything these days...im going to apply for a job at Hooters as a waitor and sue for discriminating against gender...

Since: Jul 08

Portland

#125 Sep 25, 2009
Joe wrote:
Man you can sue for anything these days...im going to apply for a job at Hooters as a waitor and sue for discriminating against gender...
pretty much
westside steve

Pasadena, CA

#126 Sep 25, 2009
Refried wrote:
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But they might have a requirement for a uniform?
You can not work at McDonalds without wearing one. If the AF HR dept was on the ball (which I doubt they were) they would have an employee handbook that would detail what is, and is not, appropriate wear. It would (or should) prohibit certain things such as scarves.
Good point- it may ride on what written policies were in place. If this were a disability, then a scarf would surely be a "reasonable accomodation" protected by law. I do not believe religious practice gets that level of protection: in the end one can choose a religion, but not a disability.

I know that if you are required to work sundays, and refuse for religious reasons, the employer has no obligation to hire or keep you on: this has been litigated previously.
LOL

Anaheim, CA

#127 Sep 25, 2009
Joe wrote:
Man you can sue for anything these days...im going to apply for a job at Hooters as a waitor and sue for discriminating against gender...
You can sue for anything.

But you may not win. If the this woman loses, she should have to bear the cost of her own fees and at least a portion of A & F's.

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#129 Sep 25, 2009
Tank Murdoch wrote:
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Corporations provide jobs, prosperity and 401K not to mention our quality standard of life.
There is no tyranny, if you don't like A & F simply work elsewhere or don't shop their.
Good luck flippin burgers at MacDonalds with your unskilled labor.
Corporations don't 'provide' a damn thing. Corporations employ people for as little as possible in order to generate as much wealth as possible for people who don't work. The standard of living for the bottom 80% of Americans has been falling steadily since the 1970s--and most people just bend over and take it.

Maybe A&F should go back to selling shotguns. I think those are still made in the USA.
jct

Minneapolis, MN

#131 Sep 28, 2009
They could make wearing a crucifix around your neck mandatory or refuse to allow someone to wear a crucifix at work.

If you want a job...do as the romans at work. Do and dress whatever you want on your own time.
Screamin O

Minneapolis, MN

#132 Sep 28, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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Corporations don't 'provide' a damn thing.
Corporations pay what your value is worth, in your case flippin burgers is your highest skill level and you get what you deserve.

Corporations provides the bulk of our wealth and jobs for our high quality of life.

Be a bit thankful!

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#133 Sep 28, 2009
Screamin O wrote:
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Corporations pay what your value is worth, in your case flippin burgers is your highest skill level and you get what you deserve.
Corporations provides the bulk of our wealth and jobs for our high quality of life.
Be a bit thankful!
Any corporation that provided wealth and jobs and quality of life would face a shareholder revolt. That's why corporations extract wealth from workers and transfer it to managers and shareholders. Read the wall street journal sometime, they'll explain it to you.

From about 1945 to 1974 we had a reasonable balance in this ocuntry, but it's been downhill for workers ever since. We got lots of people flipping burgers who could do many other things--but the corporations moved all those jobs to China and Mexico.
Screamin O

Minneapolis, MN

#134 Sep 28, 2009
Walt Green wrote:
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Any corporation that provided wealth and jobs and quality of life would face a shareholder revolt. That's why corporations extract wealth from workers and transfer it to managers and shareholders. Read the wall street journal sometime, they'll explain it to you.
From about 1945 to 1974 we had a reasonable balance in this ocuntry, but it's been downhill for workers ever since. We got lots of people flipping burgers who could do many other things--but the corporations moved all those jobs to China and Mexico.
Nowadays we all are stockholders rich, poor and middle class-its called a 401K.

Corp profits then equal prosperity of improvement in the standard of life for all of us.

Workers have no wealth, especially someone like you who flipps burgers for a livin.

Workers rely on corporations to improve their quality of life and build for a retirement through 401K.

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