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St T Parishioner
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>This has been disgusting for three years, its just catching up with you now. Sister Destructo will touch all our lives in the diocese sooner or later.
What name is she suggesting you change to? Our Lady of Knock or Our Lady of Light or Queen of Mercy or Mother of Mercy. They like Our Lady of Knock because of its Irish connection.
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
What a tremendous show of support for Holy Trinity!! Truly, a beautiful faith-filled community. They closed the church, but certainly not the spirit of the people. Bog Zaplac. Ditto! Great party!
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St T Parishioner
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
Boo, hoo, hoo. Poor St. Teresa. They got to stay open, and now they want everything to remain the same as they were before. Don't they realize how much sacrifice others have had to make. The name of the church stays the same, for heaven's sake. Give me a break. Compromise, sacrifice. You've already got everything you dreamed of -- YOU stayed OPEN. St. John loses the buildings and the community, and you want the whole enchillada! St. John's should have closed many years ago. There aren't many people at that parish. They were the smallest of all the parishes in South Buffalo. They lost their buildings years ago when they were forced to rent them out to meet their bills. St. Teresa's only wants what the bishop said to be honored. Sorry you are misinformed.
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Anonymous
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St T Parishioner wrote: <quoted text>
St. John's should have closed many years ago. There aren't many people at that parish. They were the smallest of all the parishes in South Buffalo. They lost their buildings years ago when they were forced to rent them out to meet their bills. St. Teresa's only wants what the bishop said to be honored. Sorry you are misinformed. St. John is bringing big bucks in rental income to the newly merged parish as well as substantial money in savings. We should be respected and recognized for what we bring to the newly merged parish. There was no "forced" to rent the buildings. They are in excellent shape, and fully rented. All that income will come to the new parish. Give us a little respect.
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17th Ordinary Time
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And so, my dear friends, here we are celebrating Monday of the 17th Week in Ordinary Time. After saying Mass this morning in my personal chapel, I ate my breakfast and read the morning papers and briefs from my communications director and am now ready to face the day. I imagine all of y'all probably did thew same thing. You got up, washed up, dressed, had quiet time for prayer, ate the breakfast prepared for you, put on the clothes that were laundered for you, and then read the papers and were briefed. They say the "grace of ordination" is a wonderful thing. Personally, I like all the graces attached: housekeepers, cooks, a lovely residence, a car and insurance, a house provided by the Buffalo Diocese when I retire as well as stipend to live on given so generously by you all. "What a glorious life! And it is yours O priest of Jesus Christ!"
So that brings us to vocations. It isn't a nasty word, it isn't a bad word. In fact, it is a wonderful word. We need vocations if we are not going to close more churches. By the way the pastor at John de La Salle is now an associate, not a pastor because we don't have enough parishes to put all the pastors as pastors. But we have a priest shortage and that is why we needed to close "worship sites". If anyone calls "worship sites" a church, it is now under the pain of mortal sin. We are enlightened folks, we are in the third millenium. We call these mere buildings "sites." We had to call them churches many years ago so we could get the ignorant immigrants to build them with their hard work and sacrifices. But they are all dead now and we don't need their "sites" anymore. "sit gloria transit mundi!'- So goes the glory of the world.
It is mid-morning and nearly time for cook to have lunch on the table. So I had best not bend your ears much longer. But the final thought I want to leave you all with is that we're doing God's work, God's will. Right? He knows what we need and we must have confidence in religious sisters and our priests who know as well as I do that we are about doing God's work. Sure it might be painful for a while, but we will have a stronger, more vibrant diocese. We may lose a couple of disgrunted souls here and there, but they are few a far between.
So, God bless each of you and enjoy the day. Nothing is ever ordinary despite being in Ordinary Time. So, God bless, once more and don't be angry, I'm just doing what God wants me to do. Remember we don't have to like it, we don't have to enjoy it, we only have to accept it. And thank you for your continued generosity. Ya know, that is the real measure of your love for God and His work. What you give. So give generously and with a lively faith that helps me maintain the lifestyle God has called me to enbrace and allows your priests to do their hard work daily. It is hard work lifting that host! It takes a toll. So, again, God Bless and God love you.
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The above blog
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The above blog was NOT written by your bishop.
It is a parody.
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
St. John is bringing big bucks in rental income to the newly merged parish as well as substantial money in savings. We should be respected and recognized for what we bring to the newly merged parish. There was no "forced" to rent the buildings. They are in excellent shape, and fully rented. All that income will come to the new parish. Give us a little respect. St. Teresa's would have "big bucks" in rental income too, but we allow a local Catholic School to use our buildings rent free. It called being charitable to those in need. We weren't built to be landlords and rake in the "big bucks." We were built to serve others by spreading the Gospel. St. John's charges the children at Baker Victory rent and makes a profit. Give us a little respect for our sacrifice and generosity in doing what we should be doing as a Church. Other than to fan some of you like kings and bow to your every desire, I think we have treated you with much dignity and respect. Some of you are simply vindictive because of your dismay at being closed. We didn't want to see you close, so don't take out your anger on us. It is not our fault that this parish was larger and more practical to keep open. St. John's was treated more than fairly and even had the benefit of their own pastor orchestrating everything by being named pastor of both parishes and sitting on the commission. St. John's knew for years that this day was going to come, so let's not pretend that this was a surprise. St. Mock didn't want anything to do with the lowly people of South Buffalo and pulled St. John's out of the vicariate. He felt you had more in common with West Seneca. When Mitka resigned and it worked to his advantage (by his own statements to many), he went to St. Teresa's to secure a parish for himself that was close to Trocaire. Let's not forget who didn't want anything to do with who. Also, it is laughable that some have brought up things from the early 1900's. It's like grasping for straws. Those people have been dead for 80 years and it was common for ethnic groups to form their own parishes then like the German people of St. John's chose to do.
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
St. Teresa's would have "big bucks" in rental income too, but we allow a local Catholic School to use our buildings rent free. It called being charitable to those in need. We weren't built to be landlords and rake in the "big bucks." We were built to serve others by spreading the Gospel. St. John's charges the children at Baker Victory rent and makes a profit. Give us a little respect for our sacrifice and generosity in doing what we should be doing as a Church. Other than to fan some of you like kings and bow to your every desire, I think we have treated you with much dignity and respect. Some of you are simply vindictive because of your dismay at being closed. We didn't want to see you close, so don't take out your anger on us. It is not our fault that this parish was larger and more practical to keep open. St. John's was treated more than fairly and even had the benefit of their own pastor orchestrating everything by being named pastor of both parishes and sitting on the commission.
St. John's knew for years that this day was going to come, so let's not pretend that this was a surprise. St. Mock didn't want anything to do with the lowly people of South Buffalo and pulled St. John's out of the vicariate. He felt you had more in common with West Seneca. When Mitka resigned and it worked to his advantage (by his own statements to many), he went to St. Teresa's to secure a parish for himself that was close to Trocaire. Let's not forget who didn't want anything to do with who. Also, it is laughable that some have brought up things from the early 1900's. It's like grasping for straws. Those people have been dead for 80 years and it was common for ethnic groups to form their own parishes then like the German people of St. John's chose to do. Parts of this have some veracity; however, the school which you so generously house "rent free" pays 65% of the utility bills for the entire complex. I would not call that exactly rent free!
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Tax Collector Come Hither
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
All that income will come to the new parish. Give us a little respect. Thanks for sharing! I hope the parish is paying property tax on these buildings in which they are renting out for such lucrative $$$. I know the good church would want to do the honest thing and obey the law on such matters. As we are all aware - any buildings drawing profit are subject to tax' regardless, of who we rent them to or the taxable status of the tenant. Kevin, please jot that down and send it to Buildings and Properties. Also, CC Slubecky and Timmell. LOL. Thanks God for the Temporary Administrator who is stirring the "hornet's nest."
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
St. Teresa's would have "big bucks" in rental income too, but we allow a local Catholic School to use our buildings rent free. It called being charitable to those in need. We weren't built to be landlords and rake in the "big bucks." We were built to serve others by spreading the Gospel. St. John's charges the children at Baker Victory rent and makes a profit. Give us a little respect for our sacrifice and generosity in doing what we should be doing as a Church. Other than to fan some of you like kings and bow to your every desire, I think we have treated you with much dignity and respect. Some of you are simply vindictive because of your dismay at being closed. We didn't want to see you close, so don't take out your anger on us. It is not our fault that this parish was larger and more practical to keep open. St. John's was treated more than fairly and even had the benefit of their own pastor orchestrating everything by being named pastor of both parishes and sitting on the commission.
St. John's knew for years that this day was going to come, so let's not pretend that this was a surprise. St. Mock didn't want anything to do with the lowly people of South Buffalo and pulled St. John's out of the vicariate. He felt you had more in common with West Seneca. When Mitka resigned and it worked to his advantage (by his own statements to many), he went to St. Teresa's to secure a parish for himself that was close to Trocaire. Let's not forget who didn't want anything to do with who. Also, it is laughable that some have brought up things from the early 1900's. It's like grasping for straws. Those people have been dead for 80 years and it was common for ethnic groups to form their own parishes then like the German people of St. John's chose to do. As part of the parish council at the time my recollection of the back and forth by "St. Mock" was casued by problems in the school mergers in South Buffalo. Nearly all St. John kids went to St. Bonaventure. When St. Bonaventure school closed South Buffalo Catholic was created. It resolved the problems of where the St. John kids would go to school.
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Anonymous
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Sorry for all the postings -- major problems. Can't take it down once it's up.
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Damage Control
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For discussion at our Monday A.M. Damage Control Meeting:
St. Teresa's
What do we do?
Do we wait to appoint the native son or get him there quicker?
What about the Temporary Administrator?
First Poblocki - now this. What do we do?
Is Mock still living at St. John's? Mmmm.
Why do those nasty people keep standing up to us???
We have to be careful - we don't want to open ourselves to a lawsuit or bad press. We know they got the goods and might use it to our disadvantage. Mmm.
Mmm. What to do?
What a complex situation we have to handle!
We have never been this vulnerable - the impact can be devasting.
This makes Dunkirk look like it was enjoyable.
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
Parts of this have some veracity; however, the school which you so generously house "rent free" pays 65% of the utility bills for the entire complex. I would not call that exactly rent free! No my dear, you are quite incorrect. The 65% is an accurate estimate of the school's consumption. It was figured very carefully and in fact is to the school's benefit despite St. Mock's claim (ask Fr. Mitka who worked on the formula). There are shared meters, so that is why the formula is on the entire complex. Do your homework before you speak with such knowledge on the matter.
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ljm
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
St. Teresa's would have "big bucks" in rental income too, but we allow a local Catholic School to use our buildings rent free. It called being charitable to those in need. We weren't built to be landlords and rake in the "big bucks." We were built to serve others by spreading the Gospel. St. John's charges the children at Baker Victory rent and makes a profit. Give us a little respect for our sacrifice and generosity in doing what we should be doing as a Church. Other than to fan some of you like kings and bow to your every desire, I think we have treated you with much dignity and respect. Some of you are simply vindictive because of your dismay at being closed. We didn't want to see you close, so don't take out your anger on us. It is not our fault that this parish was larger and more practical to keep open. St. John's was treated more than fairly and even had the benefit of their own pastor orchestrating everything by being named pastor of both parishes and sitting on the commission.
St. John's knew for years that this day was going to come, so let's not pretend that this was a surprise. St. Mock didn't want anything to do with the lowly people of South Buffalo and pulled St. John's out of the vicariate. He felt you had more in common with West Seneca. When Mitka resigned and it worked to his advantage (by his own statements to many), he went to St. Teresa's to secure a parish for himself that was close to Trocaire. Let's not forget who didn't want anything to do with who. Also, it is laughable that some have brought up things from the early 1900's. It's like grasping for straws. Those people have been dead for 80 years and it was common for ethnic groups to form their own parishes then like the German people of St. John's chose to do. These posts are a great example of what is wrong with the "Journey". Both Parishes had (have) vibrant and purposeful ministries. the people of both parishes sacrificed a lot of time, money, energy and love to be Catholics in action. Rather than celebrate the contributions they each made, we bicker about who's contribution is more valuable and which community should be considered the "winner". It's unfortunate that the diocese and local "clergy" have done little to teach the people of each community the value of the other.
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
As part of the parish council at the time my recollection of the back and forth by "St. Mock" was casued by problems in the school mergers in South Buffalo. Nearly all St. John kids went to St. Bonaventure. When St. Bonaventure school closed South Buffalo Catholic was created. It resolved the problems of where the St. John kids would go to school. No, not so. St. Mock stated that they had more in common with West Seneca where two of his friends (Wardenski and Bagley) were pastors. Check your facts. There are too many witness to the matter.
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ljm
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
Parts of this have some veracity; however, the school which you so generously house "rent free" pays 65% of the utility bills for the entire complex. I would not call that exactly rent free! I rent my house and pay the utilities. No doubt you pay those utilities from the assessments on your host parish and others. Rent is a legitimate business expense. you should be expected to pay. Get off your high horse and be a "gracious" guest
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The Dunkirk Connection
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Damage Control wrote: For discussion at our Monday A.M. Damage Control Meeting:
St. Teresa's
What do we do?
Do we wait to appoint the native son or get him there quicker?
What about the Temporary Administrator?
First Poblocki - now this. What do we do?
Is Mock still living at St. John's? Mmmm.
Why do those nasty people keep standing up to us???
We have to be careful - we don't want to open ourselves to a lawsuit or bad press. We know they got the goods and might use it to our disadvantage. Mmm.
Mmm. What to do?
What a complex situation we have to handle!
We have never been this vulnerable - the impact can be devasting.
This makes Dunkirk look like it was enjoyable. Who's the native son? Who's the temporary administrator and what is he doing to stir things up? What happened to Poblocki after he bailed out of St. T's after supposedly loving it there? And no, the diocese would never say that anything about Dunkirk was enjoyable. The only thing enjoyable for Keenan was the hamburger at the Rainbow Inn -- and then he probably thought Bill Parks and I were taking him to a gay joint. LOL and I do mean LOL!
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ljm wrote: <quoted text>
These posts are a great example of what is wrong with the "Journey".
Both Parishes had (have) vibrant and purposeful ministries. the people of both parishes sacrificed a lot of time, money, energy and love to be Catholics in action. Rather than celebrate the contributions they each made, we bicker about who's contribution is more valuable and which community should be considered the "winner".
It's unfortunate that the diocese and local "clergy" have done little to teach the people of each community the value of the other. The people at St. John's aren't the problem, they are merely the victims of poor leadership. St. John's and St. Teresa's have very good people. A certain someone played one against the other and now they have a huge wedge between them. This is what happens when a priest is allowed to impose his personal agenda on everyone else. He would go from one to the other and imply that one was upset with the other. When notes were compared--it never seemed to match his comments.
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Nope
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text> When St. Bonaventure school closed South Buffalo Catholic was created. It resolved the problems of where the St. John kids would go to school. The Saint may have said that, but the dates don't line up. Aslo, he told too many people (including priests) a totally different story. As a side bar note, when one lies - it's hard to remember what they said.
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ljm
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Anonymous wrote: <quoted text>
The people at St. John's aren't the problem, they are merely the victims of poor leadership. St. John's and St. Teresa's have very good people. A certain someone played one against the other and now they have a huge wedge between them. This is what happens when a priest is allowed to impose his personal agenda on everyone else. He would go from one to the other and imply that one was upset with the other. When notes were compared--it never seemed to match his comments. I am aware of the situation, That's the point. The problem with the Journey is that when push comes to shove, the diocese takes care of the clergy and not the people
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