St. Charles Hills Subdivision

St. Charles Hills Subdivision

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BobT

Kansas City, MO

#1 Jun 10, 2011
I'm driving on penbrooke yesterday and one of the hoosiers in my neighborhood has a sign in his yard saying "This Ain't West County" vote no on new indentures. We are voting on new bylaws for the subdivision and the hoosiers in my neighborhood are being idiots about it. READ THE WHOLE THING DUMBASSES! The rules we have now say we can ONLY have chain link fences, hello-it's 2011, there's better options. I really hope these things pass, it really sucks knowing that every single subdivision surrounding us is way nicer. If you want to let your grass grow a foot tall, or have junk in your yard, if you don't care if your house and lot look like crap, then move to the country. I really don't understand what everyone is so worried about other than being held accountable for your yard. It would be nice to be proud of my neighborhood, I'm proud of my house, but it is embarrassing giving directions to people to get to it.
Trustee

Saint Peters, MO

#2 Jun 12, 2011
We should have"relocation areas" where all the hoosiers could move and do what they want.eep them away fro the normal people.
Out of tpwner

United States

#3 Jun 16, 2011
That is really a class statment by both parties. Do you also have white hoods?
BobT

Kansas City, MO

#4 Jun 20, 2011
I don't think wanting my neighborhood to look nice, to have a certain degree of pride when I drive home, and to think that some day my house might actually be worth some money is enough to say I'm ready to join the KKK. Simply put, it would be nice if people were held accountable for the crap they do, or don't do, with their houses and yards. There are way too many people here with messy yards, junk cars and houses that look like they've been having a yard sale for 3 years; I don't see why we have to suffer for their laziness and lack of ambition. Just because the houses are 40 years old, doesn't mean the subdivision has to be one notch up from the trailer park.
penbrooke resident

Saint Louis, MO

#5 Jun 21, 2011
Bob, that hoosier is My neighbor, He doesnt deserve your trash talk, Do You Know Him??? He would give You or anyone the shirt off His back if You ask for it. Maybe you should not be so quick to judge. If You want to vote yes, then vote yes. I am voting No also so I guess that makes me a idiot also
BobT wrote:
I'm driving on penbrooke yesterday and one of the hoosiers in my neighborhood has a sign in his yard saying "This Ain't West County" vote no on new indentures. We are voting on new bylaws for the subdivision and the hoosiers in my neighborhood are being idiots about it. READ THE WHOLE THING DUMBASSES! The rules we have now say we can ONLY have chain link fences, hello-it's 2011, there's better options. I really hope these things pass, it really sucks knowing that every single subdivision surrounding us is way nicer. If you want to let your grass grow a foot tall, or have junk in your yard, if you don't care if your house and lot look like crap, then move to the country. I really don't understand what everyone is so worried about other than being held accountable for your yard. It would be nice to be proud of my neighborhood, I'm proud of my house, but it is embarrassing giving directions to people to get to it.
penbrooke street

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Jun 21, 2011
hoosiers won blahaaaaaaaaaaaaa suck it up
penbrooke resident wrote:
Bob, that hoosier is My neighbor, He doesnt deserve your trash talk, Do You Know Him??? He would give You or anyone the shirt off His back if You ask for it. Maybe you should not be so quick to judge. If You want to vote yes, then vote yes. I am voting No also so I guess that makes me a idiot also <quoted text>
penbrooke street

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Jun 21, 2011
how do you like us now hahahahahhahahhha
Out of tpwner

United States

#8 Jun 22, 2011
BobT wrote:
I don't think wanting my neighborhood to look nice, to have a certain degree of pride when I drive home, and to think that some day my house might actually be worth some money is enough to say I'm ready to join the KKK. Simply put, it would be nice if people were held accountable for the crap they do, or don't do, with their houses and yards. There are way too many people here with messy yards, junk cars and houses that look like they've been having a yard sale for 3 years; I don't see why we have to suffer for their laziness and lack of ambition. Just because the houses are 40 years old, doesn't mean the subdivision has to be one notch up from the trailer park.
When you use language like DUMBA###, relocation, trailer park etc. as derogatory and inflamatory remarks you are placing yourself on par with those in sheets and hoods. There are many PhD's living in "trailer parks" and just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them dumb or qualify them to be "relocated", which by the way was done in Germany in 1939-45. If you want to use terms like that and call others dumb be prepared to state your qualifications. Your Doctorate is from where?
BobT

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Jun 26, 2011
I merely stated that the sign, and the way it was written made everyone around that sign look stupider. As for the Ph.D's living in trailer parks, I'm sure there are a few people with a doctorate in art, or some other really useful pursuit who are forced to live in a tornado magnet.

I never said that people should be relocated, that was some jackass posing as a "trustee". But I doubt you read the rest of my statement, just like most of our neighbors didn't read all of the indentures. They read the part where they might be held accountable to pay their whopping $50 annual fee, and that they might have to take a once a week interest in their yards, and said no. The B.S. brought forward last Tuesday night was an embarassment for anyone with a degree of pride in their neighborhood. The attorney and trustees were rudely interrupted every time they spoke, people were yelling and not once was a civil question asked and answered the way one would expect adults to handle themsleves. "I don't want to live in Lake St. Louis" and comments like it are the worst kind of lazy. It's settling, it's saying that nobody in the subdivision deserves anything better. It's a worse kind of bias when people willingly lower the standards, it just creates more of a burden on the people who work hard for their houses AND care how they look.

As for the gentleman with the sign being a good person, fine. I have seen him twice, and I know he had a very stupid sounding sign in his yard. If you want the world to think you're a nice guy, don't put crap like that in your yard, and don't be a disrespectful a-hole to others in a group. He was a complete ass towards the trustees and interrupted several people when they had questions as well. As for the shirt off his back, I'll keep that in mind if I ever need a shirt without sleeves that stinks like cigarettes.
Trustee

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Jun 28, 2011
BobT wrote:
I merely stated that the sign, and the way it was written made everyone around that sign look stupider. As for the Ph.D's living in trailer parks, I'm sure there are a few people with a doctorate in art, or some other really useful pursuit who are forced to live in a tornado magnet.
I never said that people should be relocated, that was some jackass posing as a "trustee". But I doubt you read the rest of my statement, just like most of our neighbors didn't read all of the indentures. They read the part where they might be held accountable to pay their whopping $50 annual fee, and that they might have to take a once a week interest in their yards, and said no. The B.S. brought forward last Tuesday night was an embarassment for anyone with a degree of pride in their neighborhood. The attorney and trustees were rudely interrupted every time they spoke, people were yelling and not once was a civil question asked and answered the way one would expect adults to handle themsleves. "I don't want to live in Lake St. Louis" and comments like it are the worst kind of lazy. It's settling, it's saying that nobody in the subdivision deserves anything better. It's a worse kind of bias when people willingly lower the standards, it just creates more of a burden on the people who work hard for their houses AND care how they look.
As for the gentleman with the sign being a good person, fine. I have seen him twice, and I know he had a very stupid sounding sign in his yard. If you want the world to think you're a nice guy, don't put crap like that in your yard, and don't be a disrespectful a-hole to others in a group. He was a complete ass towards the trustees and interrupted several people when they had questions as well. As for the shirt off his back, I'll keep that in mind if I ever need a shirt without sleeves that stinks like cigarettes.
And this is the guy who calls me a jackass.
Rogue Akula

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Jun 29, 2011
Trustee wrote:
<quoted text>
And this is the guy who calls me a jackass.
Please stop posting as a trustee, thanks.
Ehlmann Road

United States

#12 Jul 3, 2011
What's worse? Residents who don't read the indentures or those that get online and act like keyboard rangers and attack all their neighbors? Just sayin'.
BobT

Kansas City, MO

#13 Jul 7, 2011
Ehlmann Road wrote:
What's worse? Residents who don't read the indentures or those that get online and act like keyboard rangers and attack all their neighbors? Just sayin'.
The first one, the first one is worse.
Rtan3

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Jul 10, 2011
I for one would really like to see the indentures updated. I'd like to see some of the people who own these eye sore houses taken to task. I hope the next time this is up for vote the language is easier for people to understand.
wim

Zwolle, Netherlands

#15 Sep 30, 2011
move to canada folks.or better,to norway!
B_Baker

Saint Louis, MO

#16 Oct 4, 2011
Since this thread already exists, I guess it's as good a place as any:
October 6th, 2011-Art Genasci with the Neighborhood Preservation and Lt. McGuire with Neighborhood Watch will be our guest speakers at Jefferson Intermediate (Jefferson Middle) school from 6-8pm.
October 8th, 2011-Neighborhood Garage Sale, 7am-whenever...There will be an ad placed in the Suburban Journal and on Craigslist.
One of the Trustee positions will be available this fall-Contact a trustee by mail, email or by phone if you are interested in serving as a Trustee.
Hope to see everyone at the October 6th meeting.
www.saintcharleshills.org
lips

Wentzville, MO

#17 Oct 10, 2011
i agree with bobt there are alot of hoosiers in that neighborhood
Willsdad

Saint Louis, MO

#18 Feb 5, 2012
I am new to the subdivision, and I met one of the trustees last week. He stopped and helped me resecure a roll of carpet I had that was trying to fall out of my truck. Seems to think that all the indentures need is some rewording and better presentation and they should pass. After reading the old indentures I agree that they should be updated. I also agree that the subdivisions age and reputation helped me get a pretty good price on the house, it would be great if steps could be taken to help us build equity in it. My neighbors are nice, but the guy across the street has a lot of junk piled in his carport. This place isn't horrible, but sure could be a lot better pretty easily.
sm0k3

Highland, IL

#19 Feb 12, 2012
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Louis

Saint Louis, MO

#20 Mar 18, 2012
I just saw on the subdivision website that we're 34 grand behind, is $50 a year really that much to ask? I pay mine every year, and eventually it'll have to go up just to make up the difference from the freeloaders. Pay your bills deadbeats!

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