Man shot twice, killed near bar

Blaine Carter Christofferson was fatally shot outside a St. Paul bar just after closing time early Saturday morning, but it was apparently not his first experience with violence. Full Story
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BRK

Saint Paul, MN

#173 Mar 18, 2008
IdoCare wrote:
I challange everyone here that has a opnion, to offer a solution, drugs are destroying our society, tearing apart familys, and leaving children to fend for thereselves.
Maybe not glorifying drug dealers would be a start? You see, people really dont WANT to get addicted to drugs, its a chemical reaction in your brain that leads to addiction. On the other hand, drug dealers(Blaine) WANT people to get addicted, more money for them. Maybe everybody that has sympathy for murdered drug dealers should say a prayer for the lives this man ruined by selling and addicting them do drugs. And pray for their children as well. Somebody in here actually stuck up for Blaine while blaming the addicts that were fed by Blaine, are you kidding me??
A lost friend

United States

#174 Mar 18, 2008
BRK I don't know anyone who was forced to try drugs it is a personal choice. I know my family has addicts in it as do most people. I will not hold anyone else blame for their bad choice. I still love them and always will. I love the person. I see the whole person, not just parts and yes for some I have to remember the way they were and not who they are now. I perfer to remember the good and let go of the bad. After someone you cared for dies it is the best way to heel thy self. Nobody and change another person no matter how bad someone may want to or even better need to. I hope when I am gone I make at least someone feeling better for knowing me.
IdoCare

Minneapolis, MN

#175 Mar 19, 2008
Honestly do you think Blaine woke up in the morning and said I wonder how many people I can get addicted today??? This is a endless debate, but like I said in my earlier post I challange you to offer a solution to the problem our society faces with drugs, you snaked right past that comment, and said a whole lot of nothing...Honestly our nation is in crisis with drugs, and addiction what do you offer as a solution-input-thoughts anything???
I will briefly tell you what I think just so I am being a hipacrit. I think drugs are out of control, the courts are overwhelmed, and man children are forced to raise themselves while there parents are getting high, setting ground for a whole new generation of drug users, it is out of control. The criminal Justice system has not found a effective way to reduce drug related crime, reason being is addiction is to powerful for most people that get hooked, and unfortunatly they will nevert kick the habit, basicaly this generation is likely lost when it comes to addiction, so we need as a SOCIETY, that means you and me, need to focus on the children, try to find a effective way to educate them on drugs, and again this means you and me SOCIETY!!! YOU EVER HEAR THE EXPRESION IT TAKES A VILLAGE?? Well we all need to get involved, and perhaps mentor a child who has little hope, and is at risk, show them there is more to life. That child that goes to bed at night with there mother in the other room smoking dope, pulling tricks whatever it maybe, that child that starts off the school year in clothes that are old, and raged maybe lift there head up and show them that people are good, and do care about them by buying them a few things they would never have. Maybe take a kid fishing that would never have gone if you never brought them, because they have no father. I could go on but you get my point, people say its not my kid, I got my own all excuses it is your problem, and as soon as we come together, and fight for the children until then the next generation is going down the same path.....Your turn now offer a solution do something besides talk, talk the talk walk the walk!!!!

peace
BRK wrote:
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Maybe not glorifying drug dealers would be a start? You see, people really dont WANT to get addicted to drugs, its a chemical reaction in your brain that leads to addiction. On the other hand, drug dealers(Blaine) WANT people to get addicted, more money for them. Maybe everybody that has sympathy for murdered drug dealers should say a prayer for the lives this man ruined by selling and addicting them do drugs. And pray for their children as well. Somebody in here actually stuck up for Blaine while blaming the addicts that were fed by Blaine, are you kidding me??
John Basilone

Southwest Brevard Cnty, FL

#176 Mar 19, 2008
IdoCare wrote:
Honestly do you think Blaine woke up in the morning and said I wonder how many people I can get addicted today??? This is a endless debate, but like I said in my earlier post I challange you to offer a solution to the problem our society faces with drugs, you snaked right past that comment, and said a whole lot of nothing...Honestly our nation is in crisis with drugs, and addiction what do you offer as a solution-input-thoughts anything???
I will briefly tell you what I think just so I am being a hipacrit. I think drugs are out of control, the courts are overwhelmed, and man children are forced to raise themselves while there parents are getting high, setting ground for a whole new generation of drug users, it is out of control. The criminal Justice system has not found a effective way to reduce drug related crime, reason being is addiction is to powerful for most people that get hooked, and unfortunatly they will nevert kick the habit, basicaly this generation is likely lost when it comes to addiction, so we need as a SOCIETY, that means you and me, need to focus on the children, try to find a effective way to educate them on drugs, and again this means you and me SOCIETY!!! YOU EVER HEAR THE EXPRESION IT TAKES A VILLAGE?? Well we all need to get involved, and perhaps mentor a child who has little hope, and is at risk, show them there is more to life. That child that goes to bed at night with there mother in the other room smoking dope, pulling tricks whatever it maybe, that child that starts off the school year in clothes that are old, and raged maybe lift there head up and show them that people are good, and do care about them by buying them a few things they would never have. Maybe take a kid fishing that would never have gone if you never brought them, because they have no father. I could go on but you get my point, people say its not my kid, I got my own all excuses it is your problem, and as soon as we come together, and fight for the children until then the next generation is going down the same path.....Your turn now offer a solution do something besides talk, talk the talk walk the walk!!!!
peace
<quoted text>
Of course he did, you naive enabler!
Self policing of the race, gang, group, community BY themselves is the only way to stop this garbage.

Get a clue-STOP crying it's all someone else's fault.

"Village: just is the S.O.S.- diffusing of personal responsibility.

Consequences... the only educators
IdoCare

Minneapolis, MN

#177 Mar 20, 2008
I dont see you offering a solution, only talking out the side of your mouth. I hate to tell ya but our society is failing, parents are failing to raise there children, and you say this is not your problem!!!!! When you wake up one night to someone on standing in your bedroom, with a gun robbing you..and you cry victim..remember if that same person as a child had been given hope, shown love, and felt safe they would never be in your bedroom.
Avery extreme example but it is your problem, when your the victim right,so lets find away to prevent this shit
John Basilone wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course he did, you naive enabler!
Self policing of the race, gang, group, community BY themselves is the only way to stop this garbage.
Get a clue-STOP crying it's all someone else's fault.
"Village: just is the S.O.S.- diffusing of personal responsibility.
Consequences... the only educators
A lost friend

United States

#178 Mar 20, 2008
Idocare, you don't get what others are saying. We as a society do have a problem but a society as a whole can not fix it. We have many subcultures each with their own leadership and rules of conduct. If you really read what John was saying you would understand that. True change can only come from within each subculture.
eastside cmember

Saint Paul, MN

#179 Mar 20, 2008
I just think its funny that all these people that keep bashing on and judging Blaine who i know by reading these forums was a father a son and a friend to many no matter what he was or did in the past.But still no one mentions this lowlife audie matthews who by the way is a 6 time yes a 6 time felon did no wrong or is even metioned in these forums.Its a sad place when people think they can judge a victim of a crime here and not the man who took someones life.I hope everyone who pays taxes in this bleeding heart liberal state realizes that we will be feeding clothing and housing this matthews for some time.but i guess its al right because he in cold blood killed a supposed drug dealer who was leaving a bar.I hope all you people that are quick to judge this man have proof of this instead of running your mouths on a blog.Just remember only GOD can judge just like he will judge audie matthews.I think that this could have been anyone leaving the bar that nite so just try not to be quick to judge people you dont know because it could of been you or somebody you love that could of been taken away.My point is i dont know why no one is pointing out what this matthews did that nite.
Bill King

AOL

#180 Mar 24, 2008
I have known Blaine for 20 years... since his 1st son, Alexander, was born to him and Andrea. As others have posted, he wasnt a saint and he wasnt always a sinner either. I have done time with him and he was always a guy to have your back in the time of need. A true loyal friend. I have seen growth in him that no-one posting here has been a witness to in his life.

He was a brother to me for many years before I needed to straighten my own life out.(No, I wasnt a customer) We were in legal business together. His goal in life, longterm, was to retire with as many college degrees as possible. He was indeed, a physics major at the U of M and dabbled in his own businesses many different times.

The fact that he continued to do some of the other things in life was his choice, and yes, it was probably that choice that caused his final demise but that doesnt diminish many of the wonderful things he did in his life for others either. You didnt have to be an immediate friend to get help from him. Just ask, no story needed, and he would help if he had the means to at the time.

My fullest prayers and condolences go out to Andrea, Momma Christofferson and Alex. My prayers also go out to his other 4 children and their mothers as well. I havent seen any of you in many years but if you need anything, just lemme know.

RIP brother!!!

Peace be with all of you,

Bill King
werentany@aol.com

P.S. Sorry my condolences are so late but I was away on business for the last 3 weeks and just heard of this tragedy this morning upon returning to the office.
just a note

Elk River, MN

#181 Mar 26, 2008
Let this be a lesson to us all... Denial is easy when you love someone - you never want to see the worst in them, and hate is easy when you don't know someone because in today's world it is so very easy to judge, as long as you are not the target of the judgement...
Walk carefully through your life and do unto others as you would have done unto you ---- because you will never know what people will say behind your back rather than to your face...
People - reading all these pages truely shows the deep down problem with human nature... gossip, inuendo, and complete and utter lack of compassion...it is so very easy to speak ill of things or people, as long as you are not judged for doing so. In none of these posts have I read a single thing written from anyone that was actually "harmed" by Blaine - yet there is so much trash here from people that claim to have known first hand.
It is sad really.
My prayers go out to Blaine's children, his family, Andrea, and his mother.
To others - try to live a little kinder - try not to hate people for the things they do, being human in today's world is tough, rather than hating the person, hate the things they chose to do. Leave judgement to the only one pure enough to judge, GOD. I believe that if we all look inside we can truely say that there has been a time in our life that someone judged us, and it hurt because they did not know us, or the true story of us, or we felt that we were wrongly judged. It is a truely damaging cycle.
Blaine was a very intelligent individual with alot of options in live, he made a couple of wrong turns and suffered for it. In conversations with him (maybe to many people's surprise) he was remorseful for the worst of them, he tried to give advice to people based on what was right for them, not based on what he would do. He did try to better himself throughout the years, and he had a very unihibited personality (something some of us could learn from) he was a bold person with alot of self pride, and was afraid of just about nothing. And this is all almost a decade ago that I even knew him. I worked for him at one of his companies, and he would always correct me and say you don't work for me, you work with me. He showed respect to those that earned his respect period. If he argued with someone and after reflection felt it was in the wrong, he would apologize and it was sincere. He ALWAYS helped a person that came to him for help, ALWAYS, no questions asked. He cried when he and Andrea split up and blammed himself, yet never showed it in public. With that being said, no, he was not perfect as no human is perfect, he made choices that others may not have made, but we all do, he had things to regret, like we all do.
And for those of you who will read this and write some hateful statement back or debate certain points - you are missing the point - one thing he never did was speak ill of the dead, and from what I remember he never bought into the gossip game - didn't participate.
The point here is speak without judgement -
Everyone is good for something in this world even if they are a good example of a bad example...Which will you be???
Blaine is a person I came across in life.
I respected many things about him and his personality, he never did wrong by me, and if I needed his help - I had it, he treated me with respect- and if anyone would speak ill of me, he would defend me. There were things that I did not agree with that he did. enough said...
again -
I pray for the family embers that are dealing with the death and loss and well as true friends of Blaine that share that loss. I hope that the added pain of hateful statements like found in this blog are kept from the children as much as possible. I pray that Blaine finds peace in death that he seached for throughout life...
To fogive is divine, etc... etc..
John Basilone

Southwest Brevard Cnty, FL

#182 Mar 26, 2008
IdoCare wrote:
I dont see you offering a solution, only talking out the side of your mouth. I hate to tell ya but our society is failing, parents are failing to raise there children, and you say this is not your problem!!!!! When you wake up one night to someone on standing in your bedroom, with a gun robbing you..and you cry victim..remember if that same person as a child had been given hope, shown love, and felt safe they would never be in your bedroom.
Avery extreme example but it is your problem, when your the victim right,so lets find away to prevent this shit<quoted text>
So essentially, you have agreed with me. The culture(s) must taake their own in hand. Thanks.
your son

Hope, MN

#183 Apr 5, 2008
DAD

They said you weren't always there for me
I also thought that too.
Still I couldn't help myself from loving you

The good things not the bad remain
In my mind and in my pain
I see a dad that loved us the only way he knew how

A dad that wasn't perfect in any shape or form
Still a dad that was our father
And loved us all

You know I loved you dad and the memories will stay
To help me through this sad time
Since you went away

I hope that you are happy dad and I know that your
With Uncle Jake.

goodbye for now dad and please never forget how much me and mom love you with each and every breath
jello

United States

#184 Apr 30, 2008
I only worked with Blaine for a short time but he was a kind and generous person. My condolences to the family...... May Audie Matthews rot in hell!
THE OTHER HALF

Saint Paul, MN

#185 Aug 9, 2008
Blaine always said,"i rather be king for a day,then a chump for a lifetime."All you people talking down on Blaine,yeah you know your all chumps!LAST OF A DYING BREED
Dan

Saint Paul, MN

#186 Aug 9, 2008
Abby wrote:
That place is disguisting! Who would even hang out there??
Low life scum is who. You know everyday criminals.
lil bob

Saint Paul, MN

#188 Feb 19, 2009
Ijust touched back down on the streets myself and still miss blaine very much he was like a father to me and all the crap everybody said aside he was a real man and did not deserve to die at the hands of a coward or to ever be slandered by cowards like the people who said these things about him for those with respect we all knew how real blaine was he watched my back for over 16 years and taught me alot and could never be forgotten iactually have a little boy due in a few months named carter for Blaine
concerned_ citizen

Inver Grove Heights, MN

#189 Nov 7, 2009
IN ANSWER TO MARY SWANSON--WHO LISTS HER ADDRESS AS FLORIDA--
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND THE ENTIRE
TRUTH??? THE TRUTH SETS YOU FREE. PERHAPS THERE IS MORE
THAN ONE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN SEEKING THE DEAD PERSON, OR PERHAPS
THE PERSON WHO WAS KILLED WAS A LOOK-ALIKE FOR ANOTHER PERSON.
//////////END//////////END//// /////
Mary Swanson wrote:
I see no reason why the newspaper put, he was the step-son of Warren Schaber, he was the son of who, you don't mention that just trying again to put something in the article that does not even relate to what happened, he has been dead for 13 years what does Warren Schaber have to do with this. I am sure when he married his mother he didin't think this was going to be in the newspapers.
Bill King

AOL

#190 Nov 11, 2009
Warren Schaber, Blaines step-father, was the Commissioner of Corrections for Ramsey County.

He, Warren, was a good guy who didnt even pass judgement on his own step-son when he was having run-ins with the law.

I miss you bro. God Bless to Karen, Andrea and Alex. We all still feel your losses to this day.

Bill King

werentany@aol.com
Tyran

Saint Paul, MN

#191 Dec 15, 2012
Whos the topless chick in the hooker shoes on Blaines myspace? Was he tappin that? She like black dudes dont she or anything with some green?
Gun Loving Republican

Mound, MN

#192 Dec 17, 2012
I don't care about anything but keeping my gun rights.
Hammer

Saint Paul, MN

#193 Jan 12, 2014
Birdman wrote:
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ANOTHER PERSON that Believe's they are GOD and PERFECT **HINT HINT** YOUR **NOT**
Birdman
I would like to say to all of you at this no good piece of shit.He not only Robbed and murdered my Friend Duane Fyten.He also robbed Duanes Kids of there only Daddy.They were little when this went down.Duane was a true East sider.Like me. We didnt use guns to settle arguments.We used fists.And for this no good piece of shit to die at his own game I f feel is street Justice.He deserved what he got.And as for the people that defended him on this page.BLAINE KILLED A FATHER OF 2 OVER A COCAINE DEAL HE WAS SELLING TO DUANE.He should of got ;life in prison,Then all of you could go visit him in the correctional System.And he would be still alive.So Street justice was done.And He did deserve what he got.
I am speaking for my friend Duane and his Kids RIP lost but not forgotten.Peace

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