Catholic brother accused of abuse in new lawsuit

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Bob Schwiderski wrote:

Second Rape: The Diocese of Fairbanks and Sexual Abuse
PART I http://secondrape.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/is...
PART 11
http://secondrape.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/is...

Forgot to mention,ALASKA has the highest rate of rape and sexual abuse per capta in THE UNITED STATES

Since: Jun 08

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Bob Schwiderski wrote:

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Thomas, are you saying the Christian Brothers, the officials of the numerous schools that knew about rapes by Rose at their schools and then silently sent him elsewhere, and the various Dioceses that also knew about his crimes and then did not report the sex crimes and assisted in additional transfers of Raimond Rose
---- are guilty of crimes ?

YES, if they witness the rape. If you witness a rape, you need to report it. Some states say it is not a crime, which is a crime itself.

Bob Schwiderski wrote:

GEE, JUST THINK ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF VICTIMS THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN RAPED ---- IF THE ABOVE WOULD HAVE CALLED LAW ENFORCEMENT !
GEE, JUST THINK OF HOW MUCH DAMAGE COULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED WHEN THE FIRST CHILD AND HIS PARENTS "REPORTED" ROSE TO DE LA SALLE, MPLS. SCHOOL OFFICALS IN """" 1966 """""

Did they witness the crime?

Since: Jun 08

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News Release dream wrote:

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If only he would follow his own words, Thomas F Schraad, would abide by Minnesota law and report suspected sexual abuse of children at area Catholic schools by Christian Brother teacher Raimond Rose. Reports would be made to the St. Paul Police Department, Minneapolis Police Department, and the Washington County Sheriff's Department.
When he had completed these reports he would then contact the Fargo, North Dakota Police Department and inform them of the suspected sexual abuse and the known assignment of Br Raimond Rose at Catholic church owned Shanley High School.
If only he would follow his own words, maybe Raimond Rose would be held accountable for his crimes.

Can you read? Do you understand what you read? Please reread my comment/post. I stand by my comment and if you witness a crime, you need to report it.

Since: Jun 08

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Tom wrote:

Bull, Thomas, you enjoy the slap on the wrist youj pedophile friends (aka RCC priests) got.
Nice spin as usual by you.
The John Jay study identified a pedophile rate 400% what you stated, and it counted as demoniator 52 years of priests , but since claims take a decade to come out, numerator had 42 years experience. That means the 4% stated rate per study (not your idiotic) 1% is understated due to faulty period of claims.

Show me your facts, I have stated mine. Still, 686,000 plus of KNOWN sex abusers is a huge number. Again, one abuser is one to many. Why is the focus on a small percentage while the majority get little media or public attention?

Since: Jun 08

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AVOIDANCE wrote:

THOMAS, BOB posted a FACTUAL LETTER the other day, was looking forward to the discussion that I thought would follow. Apparently I was wrong.
After reading the letter I knew there would be no response,its tough to defend when facts just don't go your way.Face up THOMAS read the LETTER and lets go from there.
Your reply to TOM[1153] about COMPASSION reflects your attitude to a TEE.Do you have a COMPASSION measuring DEVICE,accordding to you if someone dosen't agree with you they are SPEWING HATE,Not FACTUAL,or just plain wrong.I'm sure glad you are around to inform us about the TRUTH.
Since your the only one who knows anything please RESPOND TO BOBS letter and then we will talk.

Why should I respond to his letter? It wasn't address to me, it has the same stuff that is contained in about 1200 posts so far on this thread. It would take a lot of time to read, study and absorb all the things that he "threw on the wall" hoping some of it would stick.

Now if you want to discuss any part of his two post opinion (is a post limited to 500 words? if so, then he spewed out 1000 words) fine let the discussion start.

I did read both (same post) posts. When I see a rambling posts such as his, I normally skip it as I regard it as a politician talking about himself.

Wing Nut

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Thomas F Schraad wrote:

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Can you read? Do you understand what you read? Please reread my comment/post. I stand by my comment and if you witness a crime, you need to report it.

Mr. Schraad,
You seem to be under the impression that a person most "witness" a child being sexually abused before reporting to law enforcement or civil authorities. That assumption is not correct.

In 1975 Minnesota law established that if "a person knows or suspects abuse they are to report." In other words, if your grandchild says to you "Grandpa, I don't want to go to Uncle Lew's house because he does things to my private parts." -- You should contact law enforcement !

Or, in other words, if your daughter comes to you and says " Dad, I am worried or confused about letting my children in the yard because when I went next store to borrow sugar from the neighbors there were pictures of naked children on the kitchen table and I've noticed neighborhood kids hanging around their place at odd hours." -- You should contact law enforcement !

Thomas, it is not too late to teach, to learn, to become a protector of children.

Bridge Repair Money

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Wing Nut wrote:

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Mr. Schraad,
You seem to be under the impression that a person most "witness" a child being sexually abused before reporting to law enforcement or civil authorities. That assumption is not correct.
In 1975 Minnesota law established that if "a person knows or suspects abuse they are to report." In other words, if your grandchild says to you "Grandpa, I don't want to go to Uncle Lew's house because he does things to my private parts." -- You should contact law enforcement !
Or, in other words, if your daughter comes to you and says " Dad, I am worried or confused about letting my children in the yard because when I went next store to borrow sugar from the neighbors there were pictures of naked children on the kitchen table and I've noticed neighborhood kids hanging around their place at odd hours." -- You should contact law enforcement !
Thomas, it is not too late to teach, to learn, to become a protector of children.

If you want to protect children -- homeschooling will keep those pervert public school teachers away.

Oh well if Democrats lose union dues, endorsements and contributions.

Bob Schwiderski

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Thomas F Schraad wrote:

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YES, if they witness the rape. If you witness a rape, you need to report it. Some states say it is not a crime, which is a crime itself.
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Did they witness the crime?

Thomas -- WITNESSING a child being raped is not the 21st century prerequisite for reporting sexual abuse. That type of belief is akin to thinking that to only men in long trench coats jumping out of bushes are the ones raping children.

Only a "Doubting Thomas" is stuck in that mid 20th century mindset.

Still doubting? Call a family service office or law enforcement in your New Mexico winter location or call back home to either your county family service office or your county Sheriff.

Or call the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis and ask them why their sexual abuse policy states they will contact the appropriate civil authorities when they receive an allegation of sexual abuse.[the same Archdiocesan policy says if the allegation is relative to one of the parishes of the Archdiocese, the parish is also to report to civil authorities]

Doubting Thomas, let your fingers do the walking - the phone book has the numbers for family services, your local police department, and your county sheriff.

ISRW

Minneapolis, MN

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Buttomfly wrote:

Having been a Catholic my whole life with brothers as altar boys way back when, I have been fortunate in that I have only had good experiences with priests. Lucky I would guess. However the priest that married me back in 1967 later left the church to marry another man. That shook my faith for awhile. I am not so concerned about the sexual preferences of the clergy as much as their influence on younger children. The fact that many preferred to look the other way when something was not right (I don't believe that it was just the bishops and cardinals that knew this was going on) disturbs me the most. To preserve their influence in the congregations, anyone from the parish priest on up should have been taking these abusers out of circulation immediately. To just move them around and not monitor their contact with more children is criminal in itself. Would we hire someone accused of sexual abuse of a child as an aide or teacher in an elementary school. I would hope not.

Wow. Actual honest reflection in a newspaper comments area. My respects.

Bob Schwiderski

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THIS IS A HUGE VICTORY FOR THOSE SEEKING CIVIL JUSTICE FOR THEIR VICTIMIZATION / SEXUAL ABUSE.

THE RECENT - US SUPREME COURT DECISON - MEANS ALOT MORE THAN PEOPLE ARE AWARE !!!!!! THIS ARTICLE OFFERS AN INSIGHT INTO THE CIVIL JUSTICE VICTORY

Richard Meehan: Employers can be held accountable from workers’ crimes.

http://www.norwichbulletin.com/opinions/colum...

vetinwbl

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Thomas F Schraad wrote:

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Why should I respond to his letter? It wasn't address to me, it has the same stuff that is contained in about 1200 posts so far on this thread. It would take a lot of time to read, study and absorb all the things that he "threw on the wall" hoping some of it would stick.
Now if you want to discuss any part of his two post opinion (is a post limited to 500 words? if so, then he spewed out 1000 words) fine let the discussion start.
I did read both (same post) posts. When I see a rambling posts such as his, I normally skip it as I regard it as a politician talking about himself.

Thomas you never CEASE to AMAZE me,Why waste time learning anything,nobody was asking you to write a THESIS on the LETTER,we were hoping you would dicuss the TENOR of THE LETTER.
RAMBLING POSTS,alot has been written over the time of this thread,people voicing thier opionions,concerns,feelings and EMOTIONS. Yes there have been times I have got off Topic and let my EMOTIONS get the best of me, but RAMBLING to me means speaking about something one knows nothing about. Part 1

vetinwbl

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Part2, I read the letter, found nothing being tossed up on the wall, In fact I found the opposite to be true.If you don't like the FACTS that were stated OPPOSE them with your own facts not your Feelings and Emotions.
You avoided the POST, you learned your lessons well,THE CHURCH has the same problem AVOIDANCE

Tom

Nashville, TN

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Bingo, vetinwbi, and avoidance will always keep the RCC half the size in the US of what it would have been..had it truly handled the situation properly, with full respect for the law, the victims, and an eye on the only acceptable goal.insuring the pedophilia within its employees stopped..forever. While a perfect record may not be obtainable, it must always be the goal.

Bob Schwiderski

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Racism in the Diocese of Fairbanks, Part V: The Yup’iks Aren’t Smart Enough to Know They Are Being Abused

http://secondrape.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/ra...

vetinwbl

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Bob Schwiderski wrote:

Racism in the Diocese of Fairbanks, Part V: The Yup’iks Aren’t Smart Enough to Know They Are Being Abused
http://secondrape.wordpress.com/2009/11/08/ra...

Another fine Post Bob,This ARTICLE proves to me if the CHURCH thinks hard and long enough they can JUSTIFY ANYTHING

Christy NE Mpls

Hopkins, MN

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get the gays out of the Priesthood now!!!

Since: Jun 08

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St. Paul, Mn

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Wing Nut wrote:

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Mr. Schraad,
You seem to be under the impression that a person most "witness" a child being sexually abused before reporting to law enforcement or civil authorities. That assumption is not correct.
In 1975 Minnesota law established that if "a person knows or suspects abuse they are to report." In other words, if your grandchild says to you "Grandpa, I don't want to go to Uncle Lew's house because he does things to my private parts." -- You should contact law enforcement !
Or, in other words, if your daughter comes to you and says " Dad, I am worried or confused about letting my children in the yard because when I went next store to borrow sugar from the neighbors there were pictures of naked children on the kitchen table and I've noticed neighborhood kids hanging around their place at odd hours." -- You should contact law enforcement !
Thomas, it is not too late to teach, to learn, to become a protector of children.

I agree. We all can do better.

Since: Jun 08

4,138

St. Paul, Mn

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Bob Schwiderski wrote:

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Thomas -- WITNESSING a child being raped is not the 21st century prerequisite for reporting sexual abuse. That type of belief is akin to thinking that to only men in long trench coats jumping out of bushes are the ones raping children.

True.

Bob Schwiderski wrote:

Only a "Doubting Thomas" is stuck in that mid 20th century mindset.
Still doubting? Call a family service office or law enforcement in your New Mexico winter location or call back home to either your county family service office or your county Sheriff.
Or call the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis and ask them why their sexual abuse policy states they will contact the appropriate civil authorities when they receive an allegation of sexual abuse.[the same Archdiocesan policy says if the allegation is relative to one of the parishes of the Archdiocese, the parish is also to report to civil authorities]
Doubting Thomas, let your fingers do the walking - the phone book has the numbers for family services, your local police department, and your county sheriff.

If we all worked together and fight all abuse, maybe some good will result.

Since: Jun 08

4,138

St. Paul, Mn

vetinwbl wrote:

Part2, I read the letter, found nothing being tossed up on the wall, In fact I found the opposite to be true.If you don't like the FACTS that were stated OPPOSE them with your own facts not your Feelings and Emotions.
You avoided the POST, you learned your lessons well,THE CHURCH has the same problem AVOIDANCE

Give me a question and I will answer it.

Since: Jun 08

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St. Paul, Mn